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CHAMPIONSHIP: DIVISION ONE | Yorkshire vs Notts (Day 3 thread)

July 24 2008 at 1:16 AM
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Nottinghamshire lead by 198 runs with 8 wickets remaining

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Hobson
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A test of character

July 24 2008, 11:13 AM 

A big day for the Yorkshire players. Are they going to stumble to an expected loss (probably an innings defeat) or will they show some Yorkshire grit and get off the mat? A real test of character today - and a chance to show their long-suffering fans that they are not going to crash out of the first division and allow themselves to be demoted.

It is time for the senior players to STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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CalScarborian
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Would be interested ...

July 24 2008, 11:22 AM 

Would be interested to know how that "innings defeat" might take place.

 
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Hobson
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Re: A test of character

July 24 2008, 11:34 AM 

Sorry, I obviously need another cuppa'.

 
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Alan Jackson
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Re: CHAMPIONSHIP: DIVISION ONE | Yorkshire vs Notts (Day 3 thread)

July 24 2008, 11:36 AM 

An early breakthrough by Kruis, but alas the wicket appears to be playing easily. We'll need 6 or 7 down by lunch to have any chance of saving this.

 
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Shay
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Naved

July 24 2008, 11:39 AM 

Have we broken our O/S strike bowler.........AGAIN?

 
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DAvid
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Can it get any worse?

July 24 2008, 11:43 AM 

Apparently McGrath is facing a scan. The injury may be worse than expected.

Now Rana's gone down, and it looks like his shoulder.

 
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Jimmy Kerr
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All is not (quite) lost

July 24 2008, 11:50 AM 

All is not lost. Remember Yorkshire went from 341-2 to lose a match a few weeks ago. So even at 232-3, Notts can still be beaten, but without Rana and McGrath we are uo against the odds. Come on Tykes.

 
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Steve C.
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Eh?

July 24 2008, 11:53 AM 

What's happened to Rana? Is it the shoulder he injured last year - how did it happen?
I can't believe we've got Lyth bowling - now I begin to understand why! Doesn't jacques ever bowl these days?

 
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The insider
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BAD NEWS COMING?

July 24 2008, 11:56 AM 

Get ready for some really bad news regarding Naved. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone for the season.

 
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DAvid
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Where's Hoggard?

July 24 2008, 11:57 AM 

He hasn't bowled yet.

 
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Demotion? Where's the leadership?

July 24 2008, 12:10 PM 

Very grim. It looks like a heavy defeat is almost a certainty now. A completely dispirited team at the moment, I'm afraid.

Demotion would be a catastrophe. It would have a negative effect on both next year's memberships and attendance. Second division in the Championship, and second division in the Pro40, in its last year of existence. A prescription for failure, I'd say.

And what of Gough's legacy? He was supposed to rejuvenate the team. Instead we've tottered from one fiasco to another, and he appears to have lost interest altogether.


 
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Guest
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Re: Demotion? Where's the leadership?

July 24 2008, 12:36 PM 

If Naved is totally crocked, ask Darren Lehmann if he would come back to lead the team for rest of the season. There are three good home games to come at Scarborough.

We should open with White (if fit) and Taylor and have a middle order of Gale, McGrath, Lehmann and Rudolf, followed by Brophy, Rashid and Bresnan and give Wainwright more games (or Patterson if pitch seamer friendly) and finally Hoggard. Lyth should be the first substitute batsman, unless a better one emerges very soon!

The main requirement is for someone to "get a grip", before team totally falls apart - both Gough and Moxon have been great disappointments this season. Moxon for poor team selection/tactics/visibility and Gough for a real lack of commitment on the pitch.

 
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Steve C.
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Rana

July 24 2008, 1:56 PM 

According to the Yorkshire Post it's only a stiff neck and not a recurrence of his shoulder injury..

 
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Dewsburian
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Re: Rana

July 24 2008, 2:54 PM 

On the positive side, in their last home match against Surrey, Notts. saved the game, following on, by scoring 372 for 6.
Are Yorkshire going to do the same? Probably not in the current state of demoralization - unless Chris Taylor turns into the combination of Hutton and Bradman some people apparently believe him to be. Actually, I'm almost sorry for Taylor: even if he doubles his career average (currently around 26), he won't be able to satisfy the expectations.

Any predictions for the Yorkshire opening partnership? I hear the spread betting favours 0 - 2, with 3 - 6 as second favourite.

P.S. The Taylor situation is the one element of humour in the present fiasco. When he wasn't playing, almost everyone was arguing he should open with Lyth in the CC. Now he has played and got a duck in the first innings, it's being suggested (by Alibor) that he should play instead of Lyth!! How many more failures will it take before he's being touted for an England début?

 
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Adil, 100 up!

July 24 2008, 2:58 PM 

Missed in all the gloom and doom is that Adil Rashid took his 100th first class wicket in today's match.

Congratulations!

 
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Steve C.
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Heads up.

July 24 2008, 3:38 PM 

There is NO point in capitulating here. They've batted for almost a day - so can we..

 
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Stu
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403 to win

July 24 2008, 3:51 PM 

And plenty of time. 128 overs remaining, only about 3 an over. No reason why we can not bat out for the draw.

 
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Alibor
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Re: Rana

July 24 2008, 3:59 PM 

I have to confess to not actually having seen Taylor bat, but I have seen Lyth and do not think that he has the makings of an opening batsman - but I could be wrong! We surely could do better with opening partnerships and Taylor should be given his chance - some very famous players started with ducks. I thought we acquired Taylor because someone thought he had potential but IMHO, he has not been well treated. I do NOT think McGrath should open - he is dodgy starter and is best not to be starting against the new ball!

 
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Alibor
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Re: Rana

July 24 2008, 4:05 PM 

Sayers gone already, so we could "start a book" on whether Taylor or Lyth will be next to fall - and when!!

 
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Dewsburian
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Taylor

July 24 2008, 4:15 PM 

is 27 years old and has a career average in the region of 26 (much of it from 2nd division cricket). He didn't make it in his first spell with Yorkshire, though he had a few promising moments. Quite why he should now be so widely regarded as a potential saviour is puzzling. I do wish him all the best, but I can't always achieve the level of happy amnesia that sometimes prevails on this forum.
Lyth is 20 years old and, in my opinion, could turn into an excellent opening bat, though I agree it would be better not to be relying on 20-year-olds in the current crisis. I agree that it might be sensible to rethink the strategy with Craig White, though age is obviously catching up with him.

 
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Stu
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Taylor

July 24 2008, 4:28 PM 

I did query the signing of Taylor originally as at the time of his signing, I personally did not think he was any better than our existing players. But which is worse, sign someone and play him and find out he is no better than existing players, or sign him and not play him. I think the former is the better option of the two. If we do not play him how can we possibly find out how good or bad he is. He was poor first time around for us but he may have improved. We shall find out if we play him and lets face it with the injuries we have at the moment( Mags could be out for a while now as well) we have no other option.

 
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Dewsburian
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Personally,

July 24 2008, 4:41 PM 

I didn't ever think Taylor was poor. I just don't see how he can bear the current burden of expectation.
Also, I don't accept the view that he's been treated badly. We are giving him a second chance, after all, and there was no clear cricketing reason to think he should come out of Derbyshire's Second XI and into Yorkshire's First.

 
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Steve C.
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oh Bugger!

July 24 2008, 5:28 PM 

How does Ealham get so many wickets - and nearly all lbw! He looks so completely innoccuous....

 
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PaulC
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Re: oh Bugger!

July 24 2008, 6:01 PM 

Absolute rubbish...2nd Division here we come !!!

 
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dont we like the 70`s

July 24 2008, 6:15 PM 

I turned on teletext the other day and saw we lost a few wickets in the 70`s

Low and behold we were going well at 73 for one and next thing I see we are 75 for 4.

What is going on with our batting we dont seem to be able to score anything above 200.

At this rate our top six will all get picked for England.

Come on Yorkshire lets turn this around and stay up this season which at present would feel like winning
the title.

We now you can do it !

 
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tony cronshaw
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How does Ealham get so many wickets?

July 24 2008, 7:50 PM 

It is easy!

He gets close to the stumps and bowls wicket to wicket. You miss and he hits!

 
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Leonardo DiCaprio
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The Titanic: the Sequel

July 24 2008, 10:44 PM 

If Hants beat Lancashire, we will have dropped to 8th place.

 
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