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WORLD TWENTY20 | England vs South Africa (Match thread)

June 11 2009 at 3:06 AM
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5.30pm, Trent Bridge, Nottingham

England squad
PD Collingwood*, JM Anderson, RS Bopara, SCJ Broad, JS Foster, RWT Key, AD Mascarenhas, EJG Morgan, GR Napier, KP Pietersen, AU Rashid, OA Shah, RJ Sidebottom, GP Swann, LJ Wright
South Africa squad
GC Smith*, J Botha, YA Abdulla, MV Boucher, AB de Villiers, JP Duminy, HH Gibbs, JH Kallis, JA Morkel, M Morkel, JL Ontong, WD Parnell, RJ Peterson, DW Steyn, RE van der Merwe

 
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Jimmy the Geek
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Not nearly enough

June 11 2009, 7:11 PM 

Poor show by England. 111 is not defensible against a team as good as the Boks.

Rashid was 9 not out but it took him 17 balls.

5:1 South Africa wins by 5 or less wicks down and 3-4 overs in the bank.

 
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Karl Morser
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Re: WORLD TWENTY20 | England vs South Africa (Match thread)

June 11 2009, 7:13 PM 

It is my considered opinion that weather conditions nothwithstanding, a team should always bat second in a 20-20 if they win the toss. Knowing what you need is invaluable in a 20 over biff, bang, boom.

 
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Re: WORLD TWENTY20 | England vs South Africa (Match thread)

June 11 2009, 8:36 PM 

Good call, Jimmy. Are you in the betting business?

 
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Steve C
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Indeed.

June 11 2009, 9:26 PM 

Why would you choose to bat first. The pitch isn't going to deteriorate in 20 overs. I can only assume that England were worried about batting under the lights.
It wasn't an easy batting pitch, it would have been interesting to see what sort of target South Africa would have set...

All we need to do now is beat West Indies and India...

 
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triple centurian
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poor poor

June 12 2009, 9:21 AM 

Yesterday highlighted the problem with picking so few proper batsmen. In truth we only had 4 batsmen yesterday (Bopara, Shah, KP and Colly) as Wright is just a pinch hitting slogger at the top of the order and will be found out (as he was) by top quality bowling.

Once we were 3 down and with nothing to come it meant Shah and Colly had to plod through the overs as the next men in could not be trusted to see out the 20 overs. Mascerenhas at 6 (or 7) is OK when there are 5 overs left but not 12. Foster is an unusual choice in this format ahead of Prior (or Mustard) as his batting is not good enough for what you want your keeper to do in the T20. His keeping is better than the others but the shorter the game then the less chance there is for Prior and the others to drop chances.

Outclassed, outthought and soon out of the tournament

 
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Re: WORLD TWENTY20 | England vs South Africa (Match thread)

June 12 2009, 9:46 AM 


I do sometimes think that just picking the test team would be a better bet than trying to fit in half a dozen so called specialists. I then sometimes think we'd be better picking half a dozen ''bits and pieces'' players to try and do what they try to do.
Fact is, were not very good at this game no matter which way we go and although we started off the craze, not many of our international players have played very much of it.
Lose if we do, lose if we don't seems to be the result against any team with half an ounce of thought.

 
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