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Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 20 2009 at 12:41 PM
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MATCH FACTS

June 22
Yorkshire vs Nottinghamshire
Trent Bridge
Start time: 5:30


PREVIEW: With three wins on the trot, Yorkshire have moved into second place in the Northern division. A win over last place Notts, and the right results in other matches would all but clinch a place in the quarter-finals.

David Wainwright is still unavailable due to a hand injury, but Gerard Brophy appears to be ready to go and Naved is expected to return after being rested for the Championship match against Worcester. However, the status of both Bresnan and Hoggard is uncertain. Bressy retired from the Worcester match with a slight hip injury, and Hoggard missed the last day after feeling the effects of a blow on the helmet while batting.

TEAMS:

Yorkshire: TBA
Worcestershire: TBA

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Deon Kruis: Yorkshire's most efficient T20 bowler

BBC Radio: Link
Trent Bridge ground guide: Link
Weather: Link
Yorkshire CC form guide (Most recent last) L L W W W
League table: Link
Yorkshire averages: Link
Nottinghamshire website: Link
Yorkshire's all-time T20 record: P 50 W 25 T 1 L 23 NR 1
Stats & Trivia: Richard Pyrah has Yorkshire's best T20 return with 4-20 vs Durham at Leeds in 2008
Next Match : June 24 | T20: Yorkshire vs. Durham (Riverside)

 
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Tyke 1950
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 20 2009, 4:59 PM 

Same team as before the break; same tactics; same levels of intensity. We were doing really well and a repeat of that form next week will see us into the quarter finals.
Although I have a number of concerns about the bowling attack, they've done well in the 20/20.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 20 2009, 9:19 PM 

This could be the one trophy we can win this year. It wouldn't go close to compensating for getting demoted in the CC, but at least we could celebrate something.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 21 2009, 12:47 AM 

The CC is by far the main thing I care about each season (including all ODIs and some Tests) but the T20 Cup is my second favourite event ahead of the soon to be killed off Pro40 and FPT.

If we won the T20 and got into the Champions League that would give the club a massive financial windfall. Its also probably the most watched county competition now in attendance let alone TV audience.

The fact anyone can beat anyone, on their day, means we're at least in with a shout.

 
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Skill/Luck

June 21 2009, 12:04 PM 

You have hit the nail on the head Joe re the Twenty/20. Anyone can beat anyone else on any day. It`s 90% luck and 10% skill. Yes we could win our last four matches, finish second or top and qualify but we have just as much chance of losing all 4 and finishing bottom of the group. Hopefully it will be the former. The weather seems to be set fair for the week so there should be no problems on that front.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 21 2009, 12:34 PM 

"It`s 90% luck and 10% skill."

If that's the case might as well just close your eyes and take a big swing at every ball. T20 is a very skillful game just not always the same skills as the longer stuff.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 21 2009, 2:06 PM 

Any speculation as to who might be in the Yorkshire side? Rafiq, Rashid, Taylor, Pyrah, Naved?

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 21 2009, 2:15 PM 

Andrew Gale
Anthony McGrath ©
Rana Naved
Michael Vaughan
Jacques Rudolph
Adam Lyth
Gerard Brophy (w)
Tim Bresnan
Shahzad/Rashid/Rafiq
David Wainwright
Deon Kruis

Trent Bridge has realy spun in the World T20 so would expect Rashid if fit or Rafiq to play.

 
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Injured/Unavailable

June 21 2009, 2:21 PM 

It depends who England pick for there training squad tomorrow and injuries. Def out are Wainwright through injury, possibly out are Vaughan, Rashid and Bresnan if in England squad. Naved will play and Brophy is fit again.

I would speculate on Gale, Taylor, Naved, Vaughan, Mags, Rudolph, Brophy, Pyrah, Shazad, Rafiq and Kruis.

Bresnan and Rashid in for Pyrah and Kruis if not "stolen" by England.


    
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 21 2009, 2:54 PM 

Why would players who get named in tomorrow's England squad be out of this game?

It's a preliminary squad of 17 which will be trimmed later. The Ashes don't start for over 2 weeks. I heard apart from KP (resting his injury) all the England players are available this week which means we will face Swann, Broad and Sidebottom.

 
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England

June 21 2009, 3:01 PM 

Hopefully, as you say, all players in the squad will be available for thier counties but you never know with England. I would settle for Bresnan and Rashid being in the England squad and unavailable for us as long as Broad, Siddy and Swann are unavailable for them. We benefit big time!!!

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 9:41 AM 

Interesting our 2 potential England stars are Yorkshiremen who 'came up' through the ranks ... & the Notts bowlers started out at Leicester (Broad), Nothants (Swann) & Yorkshire (Sidey Jnr)

 
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From the official site

June 22 2009, 12:48 PM 

YORKSHIRE CARNEGIE SQUAD

Andrew GALE, Jacques RUDOLPH, Michael VAUGHAN, Anthony McGRATH (capt), Gerard BROPHY (wk), Adam LYTH, Rana NAVED, Tim BRESNAN, Ajmal SHAHZAD, Azeem RAFIQ, Deon KRUIS, Richard PYRAH, Steve PATTERSON and Adil RASHID.

 
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England 3 NOT in Notts squad

June 22 2009, 12:57 PM 

Squad: Matt Wood, Will Jefferson, Ali Brown, Samit Patel, Kevin OBrien, Chris Read (capt/wkt), Paul Franks, Mark Ealham, Andre Adams, Luke Fletcher, Darren Pattinson, Jason Brown

Great news for us, can't for the life of me see why the ECB have stopped them playing though?

 
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Openers

June 22 2009, 12:58 PM 

Now Brophy is fit again for the T20 would like to see him open with Gale again

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 1:02 PM 

Such is the utter stupidity of the ECB and their lack of even a minimal consideration for the fans, the teams or the domestic game in general. It can't believe that the CEOs and cricket administrators at the county level continue to allow these seemingly random, inconsistent, and nonsensical decisions to go on without comment or criticism.

 
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Great news

June 22 2009, 1:06 PM 

The side that Notts are putting out looks very weak. I can not believe that they will not play at least 1 of Broad, Swann and Sidebottom unless they have decided they can not qualify and are giving the youngsters a game. No Shafayat, Wagh, Hales, Shrek or Voges either. About 8 reserves in, please do not cock this one up Yorkshire as they are there for the taking.


    
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 1:11 PM 

Mags involved in a bad car crash yesterday so will not be playing today.

Don't have any more details than that.

rashid, bres and vaughan all play

 
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Crikey!

June 22 2009, 1:16 PM 

Hope he's okay.

 
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Bad news

June 22 2009, 1:17 PM 

Very sorry to hear the news of the bad car crash involving Mags but it will actually strengthen our side today with him not playing. He has had a poor twenty/20 season so far and we will have more inspired captaincy now.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 1:18 PM 

Please post any further info re. Mags. Hopefully, he is not seriously injured.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 1:32 PM 

I also hope that Anthony is OK after his accident.....have tried a news search and can't seem to find anything......Just a quick note to wish the team good luck today at Trent Bridge

 
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No news

June 22 2009, 1:43 PM 

I also hope he is OK but nothing on Look North at lunchtime. Plenty of cricket as they had a discussion re MV not being in the test squad, but nothing about Mags. Surely it can not be to serious as "no news is normally good news".

 
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Pointless Notts

June 22 2009, 2:11 PM 

It says much about the County system and the sheer purposeless nature of Notts that 3 players they poached from other counties - Broad, Swann and Sidebottom - are unable to play tonight. Their places being taken by 3 players poached from other counties/countries - Ealham, Brown and Pattinson.

If the county system was ever streamlined I would have Notts as the first to go.

 
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Jeez...

June 22 2009, 6:20 PM 

Notts 110-1 after 11 overs.

 
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garbage......

June 22 2009, 7:04 PM 

......bowling from all with very few exceptions. About 2 decent overs the whole innings, 1 by Kruis and 1 by Naved. Bizzare team selection - only 4 batsmen and 6 bowlers, why 6 bowlers!!!.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 7:22 PM 

Well, Cally's strong on Yorkshire winning it. However, 166 will be a good test.

 
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Mags ok

June 22 2009, 7:29 PM 

Heavy prang means he has a stiff neck and sore back but he'll be fine - he's seeing the physio tomorrow and hopefully we'll know more then.

And before you ask - it wasn't his fault!

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 8:00 PM 

Yorkshire do look a batter light.

And Vaughan just went for 10. You have to feel sorry for him; he's lost it, and just won't give it up and admit what almost everyone has known for some time. I think we are seeing the last months of Vaughan's career. Too bad, he was once a pretty good batsmen, and a great England skipper.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 8:47 PM 

Hear the excessive whooping by Sidebottom at the end? Prat

 
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Spin

June 22 2009, 8:54 PM 

Same old story, our so called "class" spin attack get tonked all over the park, their part time spinner goes for hardly anything off his 4 overs. It happens every match, either we are crap against spinners or our spinners are crap.


    
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Leicestershire win

June 22 2009, 9:11 PM 

A bad result for us, Leicestershire win. Three more performances this week like todays and it`s bottom place for us.
Our spinners 5 overs for 57 runs, Patel 4 overs for 16 runs.
Lyth picked for his batting and comes in at 8 and Mags injured and replaced by a bowler, 3 of the 6 bowlers then get tonked all over the park.
What a disaster!!

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 9:42 PM 

Curates egg - mostly bad smelling.
Gale batted well but lacked the support that had been his in earlier matches. McGrath not playing may have been vital. The approach to the batting was fine but we didn't have enough batsmen to translate the effort into a result. Not a lot of common sense though from Bresnan and Brophy at the critical time, from about 6 overs out.
The ground fielding was better than Nottingham's but the bowling was below the standard achieved in the last 3 games. Too many loose balls. Rashid had a shocker. (I'm sure he wouldn't have played if Wainwright had been fit) A case could be made that the game was won and lost in the spin department. Should Rafeeq really have been playing?!! Patel bowled really well and also batted pretty intelligently. He's a good cricketer. I don't care if he's shaped like a barrel so long as he does a good job - a certain Darren Lehmann springs to mind.
Did Yorkshire really believe they could win this game? It seemed as if the innings lost direction after Rudolph's run-out.
One last observation. For those of us watching the game at my house it seemed as if Yorkshire were up against Charles Colville as well as Nottinghamshire!
It could be rather difficult now - I don't fancy us against Durham at the Riverside. We need to beat both Leicester and Derbyshire.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 10:16 PM 

... we were also up against the umpires (all three of them).

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 22 2009, 10:18 PM 

Well Yorkshire bowled 2 spinners ... Rafiq 3 overs for 28 & Rashid 2 overs for 29 whilst Patel for Notts bowls 4 overs for 16. Some on accuse me of continually banging on ... but again we can't play slow bowling whilst our get hit ... although Geoff Boycott's grandmother would have hit Rashid all over ... what have England done to him?

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 23 2009, 2:06 AM 

A bittersweet day for Rashid. Makes the England Test team and then single-handily loses us the match. Take out his 29 off 2 overs and we'd have won it. But congrats anyway. But I still wouldn't bowl him in T20's.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 23 2009, 9:31 AM 

I have to agree about the commentator and the umpires. Charles Colville kept saying things like Notts need dot balls, which doesn't sound particularly biased, but it was the eager tone in his voice. The umpires were atrocious - unless they think your waist is somewhere near your throat.

 
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The Rudi run out

June 23 2009, 10:42 AM 

I always thought it had to be the hand/hands holding the ball which had to break the wicket for a legal run out?

Then yesterday I was told that you can break the wicket with any part of your body (e.g. foot, head etc.) as long as you're holding the ball? I can't believe this is true but they were adamant

What is the rule, because Sid initially broke the wickets with his elbows?

 
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law 28 the wicket is down

June 23 2009, 11:29 AM 

the wicket to be legally broken, the bail may be removed by, the ball... the strikers bat whether he is holding it or not.... the striker his person or equipment whether he is wearing it or not....a fielder by his hand, providing the ball is in the hand used....a fielder by his arm, provided the ball is in the hand used....the contact causing the bail to be removed may be on the bail itself or by the disturbance of the stumps.

 
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Re: Twenty20 | Yorkshire vs Notts (Match thread)

June 23 2009, 11:39 AM 

So the arm counts as long as your holding the ball at the time, thanks

 
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