Vaughan is only one of many Yorkshire greats who have retired or left the team under a cloud and in less than positive circumstances. Boycott, Appleyard, Close, Illingworth, Sidebottom, Gough (to Essex), etc.

What is it about Yorkshire cricket and the YCCC that ending up eating our own so often?

Note: I edited the message line, Alan.

I guess if things are going well you don't generally leave.

Because the club has always been run by idiots.
Vaughan should have been able to play today if he wanted to.
I suspect we don't know the full story.

A little off topic as he still hasn't retired, but can someone refresh me as to why Chris Silverwood left Yorkshire?

Was he someone else who had a difference of opinion with Byas?

Not only should MV have played in today's match, but he should be in the side which plays Somerset in the Championship next week ...and as honourary captain and opener. The Yorkshire cricketing public should have been given the opportunity to enjoy his talents one last time in a "real" cricket match.

And "a tribute to a genius"...link

Leaving aside those you named, in some cases, at least, because they deserve to do so!

Excuse me .... we should have included MV who doesn't want to play for the club & fromn what's been said hasn't actually told Yorkshire that he's leaving. If this had happened in industry he would have walked off the premisis.

In answet to the original question

Silverwood basically left because he was always injured ... not helped by the fact that the club wouldn't pay for the operation to cure said injury.

As for some of the others

Illingworth left because the club wouldn't give him the 2 year contract he was after .... Illy then won the championship with Leic & became England captain

Close was sacked ... the reason given was because DB didn't rate 1 day cricket ... he proceeded to turn Somerset into a major 1 day force (Botham still speaks well of him)

I'm not starting another Boycott war so no comnent

There are actually 2 Sidebottoms to talk about. Arnie was on the 2nd team championship & was of course sacked for doing so. Ryan then left because Yorks wouldn't promise him a guarenteed first team place .... he'd been kept out of the team by Gough who wasn't totally fit. We thought at least we'll have D*rr*n running in hard next season ... BUT my 2nd team watching mates were saying at the time that Ryan wasn't being bowled enough in the 2nd team ... I'vea feeling there's 'issues' we haven't heard yet.

Byas signed on as manager so after being injured for years G**gh repaid the club by running off to Essex ... there was 'history' between the 2 men. There were times when Byas suspected G**gh was 'swinging the lead' for Yorkshire ... & there were time when D*rr*n was suddenly unavailable after not making an England team

I wholeheartedly agree with you Alex.
Yorkshire were poor again today and I couldn't have cared less. The sight of Pyrah coming in at five and limply spooning a catch into the outfield reminded me of what a special talent we have said goodbye to today. No disrespect to Richard is intended - he is an honest,worthy cricketer; but on a day such as this, he should have been sat in the dug-out.
If ever there was an occasion to pay our respects to Michael Vaughan it was today. I don't think for a moment that so many people would have turned up to watch a 'dead' match between two mediocre 20/20 sides unless there had not been a sense that this was a final opportunity to see, for the last time, a batsman who scarcely ever hit an ugly shot and who, at his best, touched greatness; a player who was always gracious, never self-seeking or vulgar in his vanity and who was always prepared to enable others to achieve their very best.
Michael Vaughan should have played in this match. I believe that he wanted to play in this match and I believe that we have all been denied the opportunity to give him an appropriate send off. Any disingenuous arguments suggesting that it is time to 'move on' cut no ice with me, I'm afraid. Yorkshire could have 'moved on' after this game, which in competitive terms meant absolutely nothing.
Vaughan is the latest in a distinguished line of Yorkshire immortals who have ended their careers in ugly and humiliating ways. More than most of those immortals who preceeded him, Vaughan has done little to deserve the humiliation.
Shame on whoever it was who caused me and many others so much sadness today. It will take a lot of forgiving.

I was watching the game on cricinfo ( and latterly through the Rev Dave Callaghan). I would have gone to watch the game if Vaughan had been playing - and I've never paid to watch a T20 game in my life. I would also have gone to Taunton this week if he'd been selected for that game.
It would be nice if Vaughan was announced in the line up for Mag's benefit game at Scarborough. That at least would be some sort of send off.
I just wish we knew what was going on - no comment from anyone about his absence yesterday...

A lot of people there must've come to see Vaughan's final innings - but of course he wasn't playing so they just got to see another fine Yorkshire T20 disaster.

He was listed on the website as playing. I probably would've gone anyway, living in Leeds now but I was really hoping to be able to see the last MV innings.

Yeah, I went anyway, and I have to say it wasn't to possibly watch Vaughan's last innings - as stylish a batsman as he is - but rather to watch the team.

This club has not always been run by idiots, as suggested by an earlier poster. It has had some outstanding managers in the higher echelons over the decades. That is one reason why it has won more county championships than anyone else. It is the nature of the beast to have internal friction. To refer to earlier management as 'idiots' does a complete disservice to the heritage of the club.

It is only now that we have a complete idiot in Regan running the show.

I think i would have to completely disagree! In the past it seemed to me that we won so many championships because we had so many great players who achieved so much in spite of the terrible management within the club! Think about the treatment of Johnny Wardle, Brian Close or the whole Boycott Saga. Even more recently we had the Tony Panero debacle...Historically the management of the club has been blinkered, inept and frankly racist.
In recent years Stewart Regan has transformed the club into a high profile, profitable organisation which has invested heavilly in the infrastructure, reduced our debts and greatly enhanced our reputation at large. We now own our ground instead of being permanently under the control of Caddick and the partnership with Carnegie is innovative and highly successful - can you imagine the old regime pursuing the possibillity of a Pakistan Test match?
Yes there have been mistakes - far too many to be honest - but generally the administrative success of the club is now far ahead of any success we see on the field of play.
I wonder how different things would have turned out if Chris Adams had been a man of his word? It seems to me that we've been playing "catch up" ever since that curious debacle.

"Samtheman." Referring to Yorkshire's CEO as a "complete idiot," is both unfair, disrespectful and unsupported in fact. Indeed, most of Yorkshire's travails these days are on the field and/or in the dressing room. As far as I know the captain and Director of Professional Cricket are most directly involved in the team's performance, whereas Mr. Regan deals with the financial and administrative side of the team's operation.

We appreciate your opinion at the WRF, but unless you have some verifiable evidence to support your strident assertions, may I suggest you move on to another topic?