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Dwight_Schrute
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Re: Sorry - stand aside...

September 1 2016, 11:02 PM 

Force the pace for me. I wouldn't fancy Hants to chase more than 250 anyway. Would be happy for us to bowled out before tea tomorrow.

Edgbaston looks very wet on Saturday also.

 
 
JG
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Re: Sorry - stand aside...

September 1 2016, 11:30 PM 

Today's Cricinfo report very complimentary about our bowling performance in unfavourable conditions. I get the impression from his reports that the correspondent hasn't seen much of our side recently; it's easy to take the likes of Sidebottom and Brooks for granted but looking from the eyes of an outsider can remind us how special they really are.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/1052903.html

 
 
Roundhegian
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Weather forecasts

September 1 2016, 11:37 PM 

The forecasts for Saturday are currently suggesting half a day's play at Southampton and none at all at Edgbaston.
Thus it seems we should try to build a lead of about 300 by mid afternoon tomorrow and that would be enough, allowing about 70-80 overs to bowl Hants out the second time around.
Middx on the other hand should probably declare round about lunchtime tomorrow and try to finish off Warwicks in two sessions. But I don't think they will.
If Middx follow this strategy, the forecast is wrong and Warwicks pull off an unlikely win, Warwicks would be back in contention especially if we fail to win.

 
 
Old Feller
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 2 2016, 9:44 AM 

I expect that we will ignore the weather & bat normally as for any 4 day game.
I'm sure that they will (should) try to force the pace but it depends also on how well Hants bowl.
Some folk on here seem to believe that our batting/bowling is the only variable ignoring what the opposition can or can't do.
If we go out this morning to try to thrash it we could well be bowled out cheaply setting Hants no real target.
We cannot control what Middx or Warks do in their game.

 
 
Idle man
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 2 2016, 11:03 AM 

Interested by some earlier comments re. Alex Lees. At the start of yesterday he had 894 championship runs, 2 hundreds and an average of 42.57. He's our highest entrant in the stats published in The Cricket Paper.

Our great white hope for some, Ben Duckett, has 778 second division runs, 2 hundreds, and an average of 45.76.

 
 
Dwight_Schrute
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 2 2016, 11:21 AM 

443 runs at 63.28, SR 98.88.
477 runs at 43.36, SR 141.54.

 
 
Idle man
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 2 2016, 11:29 AM 

Sorry, what are those figures?

 
 
JG
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 2 2016, 1:20 PM 

His stats in List A and T20 cricket, which are exceptional. He would undoubtedly be a massive boost to our white ball batting which is currently very reliant on Lyth and whichever overseas player we have around at the time.

By the way the Championship stats you quoted don't include the 80 and 185* Duckett has made in the current match, which take him to over 1000 runs @ 55 this season.

Any move looks unlikely anyway.


    
This message has been edited by _JG_ on Sep 2, 2016 1:20 PM


 
 
Idle man
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 3 2016, 12:42 PM 

I saw one of Duckett's big innings for England A so would be the last person to undervalue him particularly in white ball cricket. My comparison was more of our reactions to their performances than of the two players.

 
 
JG
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 3 2016, 11:56 PM 

Fair point, Lees' poor white ball performances shouldn't take away from the fairly decent season he's had in the Championship; my only issue here would be lack of innings to set the game up- no first innings centuries.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 9:31 AM 

Well the fourth day thread has rightly closed to avoid the tedium and usual arguments over declarations and our approach which is wearing thin.

Have the Middlesex fans castigated Franklin for not declaring earlier and perhaps setting Warwickshire a 4th innings target of 100 in potentially 150 overs due to the weather forecast saying rain would limit to only 30 overs?

I don think we could have done any more. Batting more aggressively to allow an early declaration sounds easy but bowlers, field placing, over rates and light don't help you.

Not often I cheer on the Lankys but I can make an exception this week.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 11:14 AM 

Duckett would be a replacement for Hodd, the only reason some have a problem with his name being mentioned is because of where he was born. I‎f Bairstow plays then at least we have a suitable replacement for our captain who hasn't produced consistent runs. I'm hoping Duckett is just 1 of 2 domestic players we sign but with Moxon in charge i'm not going to hold my breath.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 11:17 AM 

That will be the same Moxon who has overseen the signing of Hodd, Brooks, Willey, Plunkett, Sidebottom....

 
 
Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 11:30 AM 

His comments regarding overseas a while ago have left me to believe we'll never have success in limited overs whilst he's in charge. I believe apart from Willey the signings have been made for Championship cricket which i'm not criticising but i'd like to see the squad more balanced.

 
 
Seadog73
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 11:36 AM 

Duckett is going nowhere judging by his recent comments. It sounds like we have a chance of signing Borthwick, who hasn't yet committed himself to Durham. I wouldn't be surprised if Lehmann signs for a full season next year, with Head augmenting him for the t20.

 
 
Martin
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 11:38 AM 

Other than George Dobell speculating there is no hard evidence that Duckett is going anywhere. When he talks to the press the suggestion is quite the opposite in fact.

 
 
Idle man
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 4:03 PM 

For 2015 Moxon signed Finch (for the second time) and Maxwell. In one of the previews of the t20 World Cup, they were both listed in the top ten players to look out for, and both are far more respected in white than red ball cricket. This year's signings were Williamson, a star across all forms, and Head, another whose white ball reputation is significantly higher. I can't see that these signings support your comment at all Jacobus.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 5:38 PM 

Over the years we have never been consistent with signing players, in 2011 we had nobody then the year after we suddenly signed 2. At the start of this season we had no overseas help in one day cricket and by the end of the season we had nobody as well. It is true we need the T20 played in one small block rather than every Friday to help sign 2 players.

 
 

Guest
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 7:07 PM 

The reason we had no overseas player for the White ball knock out was that Head was called up for Australia. Due to Essex signing someone for finals day a few years ago the rule is that you can't play an overseas player in the knock outs if he didn't play in a 'regular season'/league matches. So Lehmann can only play in Championship games.

This is the 2nd year this has hit us although last year was probably worse as Finch was with us during some of the league matches but didn't play due to injury.

 
 
Old Feller
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Re: Weather forecasts

September 4 2016, 7:23 PM 

The year (2011?) we didn't have an overseas player was because we couldn't afford one.

 
 
 
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