# Doing the maths

September 15 2016 at 8:43 PM

I've started a new thread for a topic that has been touched on elsewhere. Now the points situation is known, going into the final round of matches, what are the implications, at both ends of the table?

1. TOP Middlesex 213, Yorks 204, Somerset 203
Ignoring such impossibilities as Middlesex winning but getting no bonus points...

M win - it's their title

Y win - overtake M, but S can take title by winning (against relegated Notts) with just ONE more point than Y.

M and Y draw - S can take the title by winning but need at least to match M's bonus points in the game.

2. MIDDLE (4th and 5th)
Durham need 4 points from their final match to overtake Surrey, who have finished.

3. BOTTOM Lancs 162 play at Warwicks 156, Hants 148 play safe Durham, Notts 121 relegated.

This is horribly complex, but H need to win to survive OR they could just escape with a big bonus-point draw if W are heavily defeated by L.

L are vulnerable, but only if they lose and H win, (or a draw in which W get 7 more points than they do, which is almost impossible, frankly.)

I think that has covered it.

 This message has been edited by DaveMorton on Sep 16, 2016 9:41 AM

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Guest

# Re: Doing the maths

September 15 2016, 9:56 PM
 Brilliant, thank you. The bottom is every bit as interesting as the top, I can see Hampshire beating a Durham team who are now safe and have nothing to play for this will make the lancs game very interesting if it happens
EastCoastExile

# Re: Doing the maths

September 15 2016, 10:17 PM
 who would have thought four day cricket could be so exciting
WS55

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 12:08 AM
 I guess that by late Wednesday, Thursday am at the latest, we are likely to know the bonus point situation, and be able to whittle down Dave's possibilities a bit more. In particular, we'll know if winning our match will win us the title, or if winning won't necessarily be quite enough -- i.e. the title requires us to win, but also depends on whether Somerset win or not. I don't know about exciting, ECE, it makes my head hurt. There are enough twists and turns in the average 4-day game to make it exciting. This points-based ballet is excruciating, more like.
Ball-Sup (Phil)

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 9:18 AM
 Points deductions for slow over rates have to be brought into this excellent equation.
Fraisse10

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 9:23 AM
 Petersen misses Lancs' last match.
Old Feller

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 10:19 AM
 At what stage do we need to take away the number we first thought of?
spanishnick

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 11:37 AM
 Morton/Vordeman- a striking resemblance I've always thought. Thank you.That clarifies a situation for me that i would never have had the patience to work out for myself. Much obliged.
Loiner

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 11:43 AM
 I prefer more simplistic terms, we have to win and if we do we'll more than likely be champions
Leg Glance

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 12:33 PM
 But not if Somerset win with 1 more bonus point than us, hence Dave's excellent analysis spelling out the exact position as it stands now. I'd rather be certain than 'likely'
Mark Smith

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 2:49 PM
 Let's hope the lads play the best game they've ever played,get 24 points and win the title to send Dizzy off on a high
Martin

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 3:09 PM
 All conjecture of course but how likely is a maximum bonus points batting points haul at Somerset given recent bowling conditions there?
Loiner

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 4:51 PM
 Somerset will probably win but it will be a 19-20 win that's why I'm saying a win for us and we'll be champs

Dave Morton

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 6:08 PM
 The inescapable conclusion - PETER WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!
Old Feller

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 7:22 PM
 The one thing he was right about was that we should have had a go vs Lancs. If we lost a couple of wickets we should still have been able to hold out against one of the weakest bowling attacks in the division.
Idle Man

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 7:30 PM
 I agreed. However it's interesting Middlesex took a similarly negative approach to their match at Old Trafford.
Guest

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 9:04 PM
 But their game was with only one to go and with them in the box seat so less urgency to take the risk
Idle man

# Re: Doing the maths

September 16 2016, 11:02 PM
 Agreed, but if they had won, it would be all over bar the shouting by now.
Peter