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Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016 at 11:37 AM
Jim  (Login Tingleytyke)

 
Only just noticed Middlesex deducted 4 points for slow over rate in the Yorkshire game . Not sure when it was announced or how the number of points were decided but could have had some potential impact on the final table.

 
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JollyD
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Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 11:48 AM 

I noticed on TV when we momentarily saw the scoreboard, that Middlesex were at that time showing an over rate deficit of six. The lights shone out in red. The subsequent employment of Rayner must have mitigated the eventual damage.

 
 
Martin
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 12:39 PM 

I was at the ground and I don't recall the deficit reducing from the -6. However, these scoreboard indicators are not usually adjusted to take account of other stoppages. In particular, the time lost when Rafiq got hit on the head which must have been worth a couple of overs

 
 
Leg Glance
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 1:28 PM 

It was -6 on last view at Lords Martin,but, of no consequence, given the result. sad.gif

 
 
Loiner
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 1:59 PM 

Middlesex coach said he knew, had 8 or 9 points to play with if they won

 
 
Tom
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 2:07 PM 

Surely that's not the point.

The points deduction is meant to be a deterrent to bowling at a slow over rate for the good of the game. Not a nuisance rule that teams can intentionally factor in to their points scoring calculations.

Knowing the over rate is slow but not caring as long as you have enough points really isn't fair on the spectators.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 2:12 PM 

I doubt anyone was fussed about the slow over rate on the last day in view of the tension and drama. Ten wickets going down will have slowed it down.

If anything, a slow over rate had more chance of hurting Middlesex if bad light intervened before they were able to take ten wickets.

 
 
Seadog73
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 2:35 PM 

As a paying customer last Friday, I never felt conned by the slow over rate. As TU says, there was far too much drama and tension for anyone to worry about it.

 
 
Tom
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Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 2:41 PM 

In this circumstance I agree with you both, it was an extraordinary situation. I wouldn't be comfortable with captains seeing the over rate as optional though, or openly admitting they have points "to play with". Say for example a team taking a couple of deducted points when playing for a draw against close rivals.


    
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Guest
(Login dpressed)

Re: Middlesex deduction

September 27 2016, 4:30 PM 

Wickets falling are taken into consideration when working out the bowling rate. You get 2 mins. So 10wickets mean that you are allowed to be 20 minutes late and still not be docked. The umpires also allow for delays .... Eh an injury, a bat breaking, the sun shining off a window etc

 
 
 
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