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1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017 at 3:28 AM

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Ireland tour of England, 1st ODI: England v Ireland at Bristol, May 5, 2017

ENGLAND from: EJG Morgan*, MM Ali, JM Bairstow†, JT Ball, SW Billings, BM Duckett, ST Finn, AD Hales, LE Plunkett, AU Rashid, JE Root, JJ Roy, DJ Willey, MA Wood
IRELAND from: WTS Porterfield*, A Balbirnie, PKD Chase, GH Dockrell, EC Joyce, AR McBrine, BJ McCarthy, TJ Murtagh, KJ O'Brien, NJ O'Brien†, PR Stirling, SR Thompson, GC Wilson, CA Young

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Lew
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 7:31 AM 

Cannot help but feel they have missed a trick not selecting Livingstone.

 
 
Guest
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 9:05 AM 

Shouldn't that be: SW Billings† ?

 
 
Geoff B
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 9:52 AM 

After the Durham match they may have twigged that keeping, seems to help Jonny's batting rather than hinder it.

 
 
Guest
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 10:10 AM 

They don't spot the obvious that quickly

 
 
pscotty
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 10:50 AM 

All 5 Yorkies playing!

 
 
Tom
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 12:53 PM 

Six wickets out of eight for Yorkshire players. (Three times more than the rest of the team have managed at Worcs)

 
 
Stu
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 12:55 PM 

If only they were at Worcester instead of Bristol!!

 
 
Papag
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 1:12 PM 

8 Yorkshire wickets today wonder if they will have time to get down to Birmingham

 
 
Stu
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 1:23 PM 

The England management & players complain about to much International cricket, yet they continue to arrange pointless matches like today. Next year, what beckons - a three week mini series in May against Afganistan, Ireland, Scotland & England. If they want the England players to get some white ball practice can I suggest that they play for their counties in a domestic 1 day 50 over comp (I know it is a wild idea, but worth a try!!).

Ireland did not even last to the scheduled lunch break!!


    
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Tom
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 1:45 PM 



    
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Guest
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 2:01 PM 

"The England management & players complain about to much International cricket, yet they continue to arrange pointless matches like today."

They're not the ones who arrange the matches though.

 
 

Alex
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"Yorkshire" beats Ireland!!!!

May 5 2017, 4:39 PM 

It looks to me like Yorkshire fielded two teams today: one called "England" and a strong Yorkshire Second 11.
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Stu
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 4:51 PM 

EYT - You are correct, but surely the England management have some input into how many matches they play, or alternatively they could stop whingeing about it all the time. All we have heard in the last fortnight is "our players have such a hectic schedule this year they have to have long periods of rest"

 
 
Guest
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 9:10 PM 

Sorry but for cricket to develop and grow the big teams have to play the next tier to allow them to be tested and if we don't turn the game at the top level will stagnate. Fine you may say with a county hat on but if none of the test nations play Ireland and co then they will never get the chance to see if they are ready to step up a level. We have to play Ireland in our summer clearly.

 
 
Dewsburian
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 10:22 PM 

"[I]f none of the test nations play Ireland and co then they will never get the chance to see if they are ready to step up a level."
There have been some good Ireland one-day teams in recent years, but, with the very obvious exception of Ed Joyce, this Irish team is composed mainly of county 2nd XI players. The level for them to step up to would seem to be county 1st XI.

"We have to play Ireland in our summer clearly."
So let's put out a decent Lions team, involving no players with county commitments on that particular day.

Why is any of this difficult?

 
 
Idle man
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 10:33 PM 

I remember remarks like this about Sri Lanka. If you don't play these countries when they are trying to progress, then they never will. It might accelerate the progress if folk like Morgan played for the correct team.

 
 
Geoff B
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 5 2017, 11:39 PM 

A trifle one-sided I hope Ireland can raise their game for the match at Lords.

It's right in principle to help teams like Ireland to progress but you have to wonder if they are helping themselves by playing so many players well past their prime.

7 of the Ireland team were in the team that beat England in the 2011 World cup. None of the England team are of that era.

Think Afghanistan are possibly a team more deserving of a leg up.


 
 
Dewsburian
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 6 2017, 10:06 AM 

Ireland's progress on the cricket field is a cricketing question, not a diplomatic one. Ironically, that progress would probably have been better served by a good, competitive match with Worcestershire on Thursday, which could have served as a warm-up for that county before playing the full Yorkshire team on Friday. Both teams would have benefited from the first encounter, while the ECB's stated purpose of using domestic competition to produce "cricketers for England" would have been furthered by having Worcestershire's young hopefuls play against some seasoned international performers at the height of their powers.
The undermining of one of the country's three major domestic competitions could have been quite easily avoided. As a gentleman from Shrewsbury remarked to me yesterday at New Road, most serious sports guard the integrity of their competitions jealously - to the point of fining clubs that don't put out a full strength team. Yet in cricket we have come to accept that almost anything counts for more than the integrity of the major competitions. It's a very odd situation.


 
 
Stu
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Re: 1st ODI | England v Ireland at Bristol (Match Thread)

May 6 2017, 10:32 AM 

Agree, all teams and players would have benefited if Ireland had played two or three matches this week against the England Lions (on non RLC days), and the England players had played in all 8 of the 50 over matches as preparation for the Champions Trophy.

Far better for Ireland and far better quality practice for the England players. What did England learn from that totally one-sided match yesterday that they did not know already?

From todays YP

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/cricket/yorkshire/chris-waters-england-hierarchy-guilty-of-showing-contempt-to-county-cricket-supporters-1-8530012

The last paragraph from the article

".....By withdrawing Willey and Plunkett less than 24 hours before the Durham game, the ECB showed contempt for Yorkshire’s supporters. The message from the governing body could not be more clear: spectators must like it – or they must lump it."

It should read "....the ECB showed their usual and long-standing contempt for ALL supporters....."


    
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