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Stu
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 5:53 PM 

EYT --- I should have made it clear. I was referring to Rafas CC performances. 5 wickets at 54.50. He does have a good 50 over record, but if he is injured we have no choice but to leave him out.

 
 
Brian
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 5:53 PM 

and also the perfect finale to a brilliant sporting weekend that brought a magnificent world cup win, a defeat of Australia and a plucky holding off of mighty Scotland.

 
 
Stu
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 5:54 PM 

.... and another win for Cas!!

 
 

Alex
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A great win

June 12 2017, 6:24 PM 

Thanks for all of the interesting comments and the erudite analysis.

This has to rank as one of greatest Yorkshire County Championship wins, with more plot swings and twists than an Agatha Christie novel. Especially considering that we were significantly short-handed and looked to be set for certain defeat with Somerset on 231-6 and needing only 31 runs and with all the time in the world.

There is something very special about this team, - with and without our England players.

On a statistical note, this is the second busiest day in terms of page view traffic in the WRF's 19-year history - and with nearly six hours left in the day.

Cheers,

Alex

 
 
Steve C
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 6:39 PM 

Out of interest - can you recall what the busiest day was....?

I'm at my "local" at the moment raising a glass or two to our great team. I'll check our database when I get home and post the answer in this thread. - Alex


    
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Seadog73
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 6:43 PM 

I'd guess Lord's last year? Or Trent Bridge 2014?

 
 
Tyke83
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 6:46 PM 

Great experience for Carver and Waite too. We will be relying on these lads in a couple of seasons, so it's nice that they got on the right side of a close one.

Very happy Yorkshireman today. Hopefully it will give the team momentum going into Headingley tomorrow.

 
 
Brian
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 7:21 PM 

"... and another win for Cas!!"

Sorry,was excluding egg-ball

 
 
Monkwood
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Somerset Maughn

June 12 2017, 7:26 PM 

Some obversations from Somerset !

First great win.

Second great accommodation in Leathridge Arms Bishops Lydeard

Fantastic cheer for last wicket from many Yorkies

Celebration in Yorkshire dressing room after match reverberated all round the ground

The victory was a combination of skill, luck, determination and doggedness

Not one of our strongest teams ? But the whole was better than the sum of its parts !!

Some of the players need a rest ? Some of the players need more game time !!

Carver is our only option as a spinner and he his a better batsman and fielder than a lot of our team , he never looked in trouble when batting but unfortunately Gary who played a great innings run him out in a moment of indecision !

We need to tweak a few positions because their were a few players who did not quite come to the party ?

All in all a quite wonderful and unforgettable experience for all involved.

 
 
Haxbyite
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 7:30 PM 

A wonderful win. This team seems to be able to pull things from the bag that only a tight unit can manage. I was at the Saturday for the Lancashire game, and apart from a drop in enthusiasm right at the end of that day, they were pushing all the time.

Next game is at Scarborough in early August and am hoping to see a side that still has the will to win that it currently has.

Looking forward to see what we can do against the Brown Caps.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:03 PM 

"Jeez, it's a tough crowd on here sometimes.........15 wickets @ 23 this season and people aren't impressed my him!"; Source EYT.

I would like to promote an element of accuracy, reality, and perhaps, a little prophecy into this debate.

Rafiq's record in the County Championship this season is:

4 matches, 78 overs, 10 maidens, 271 runs, 5 wickets at an average of 54.2, and a strike rate of 93.6 (1 wicket every 18.8 overs) with an economy rate of 3.57.

Lyth's figures are considerably better which to me suggests that he could provide any off spin which is needed; he then allows the selection of an extra player (batsman or bowler), because he is already in the team.

In limited overs cricket it is possible that there is room for Rafiq, but even there he was out-bowled by Carver in the day/night 50 over game at Headingley.

I have felt for a long time that Lyth is under-used as a bowler and that. given greater opportunity, he has the potential to become a genuine all-rounder. He would not be the first Yorkshire player to develop from one specialism to another.

The name of a certain W Rhodes springs to mind; starting as a left-arm spinner, he developed his batting to meet Yorkshire's need for an opening batsman and he did it so well that he became with J B Hobbs one of the legendary England opening partnerships. With the advent of others, Rhodes contribution to Yorkshire's bowling was to some extent put on the shelf whilst he contributed massively as a batsman (according to A A Thomson), but then, when County Cricket started again after the First World War, with Schofield Haigh, Major Booth and Alonso Drake no longer available, and to meet Yorkshire's need, he re-started his masterful control of the left-arm spinning art. The rest, as they say, is history.

YCCC could do worse than to expand Lyth's bowling contributions.



    
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Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:17 PM 

My figures are entirely accurate. The thread mentioned tomorrow and I mentioned Rafiq's 50 over season, in line with tomorrow's game.
Stu has clarified his comment and I fully agree with his assertion of Rafiq's f/c season so far.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:24 PM 

"My figures are entirely accurate. The thread mentioned tomorrow and I mentioned Rafiq's 50 over season, in line with tomorrow's game.
Stu has clarified his comment and I fully agree with his assertion of Rafiq's f/c season so far." Source EYT

My point is that Rafiq has not taken 15 wickets in the County Championship this season.


    
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Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:25 PM 

Great win (even if it was a bit too close for comformt).

Today has again showed that the player we miss most is Rashid. We can 'get by' in other areas but Carver is still learning his trade whilst Rafiq is mainly a one day player who 'can do a job' in county cricket. Sadly neither will bowl a side out.

I would incude Azeem in our one day squad.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:27 PM 

Ah the joys of the forum....

Even on s day of a magnificent nail biting narrow win we find something to bicker over, some stats to argue about and some convenient reading back with the benefit of hindsight to pick fault with others live posts.

Come on chaps. Let's all celebrate a great win with an inexperienced side.

Just like England are carrying one of their misfiring players, so too are Yorkshire but knowing our lot, the bloke who has yet to deliver will rock up and do so in the next game just like Leaning and Lees did in the last couple of games.

Well done Waite and Carver stepping in and contributing and will someone tell Siddy that state pension age for a bloke like him has gone up two years so he can't retire yet

 
 
Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:33 PM 

I never said he did, as I've pointed out to you.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:38 PM 

Can I make it clear that I am not bickering, but rather I am suggesting that Lyth has the potential to become a much needed additional all-rounder; an area which is weakened when Bairstow is not available.. This would have the merit of bringing additional balance to the side.

Beyond that, my references to Rhodes were intended to contextualise my suggestion in terms of player development, as well as Yorkshire cricket history.

Finally, I was very careful to distinguish between Rafiq's performances in Championship cricket from those in limited over cricket; it is important to "compare eggs with eggs"!


    
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sid
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:39 PM 

My day. Work made it difficult to follow the game.

Quick look at 11:30 - no early wicket, oh dear. Assume WRF is 'we're doomed', 'why isn't X bowling?', 'Ballance is a fool'.

Another peak at lunch - 60 odd from the last 4, advantage Somerset.

2pm: 39 with 4 still needed, 20:80 in Somersets favour I'd say, assume Steve C is suggesting we all keep the faith, assume others are on suicide watch.

2:45pm OMG, 11 needed and 9 (read it again NINE)down.

More or less immediately, 'Yorkshire win by 3 runs'. Internal punch of the air and a beaming smile to myself. Assume WRF is jubilant, praising the tactical genius of GB and supporting every bowling change.

All in fun, I'm almost as reactionary as the next person.

A GREAT team performance, hugely pleased for such as Waite and Carver, the first time they'll have experienced, and contributed to such a first team win, GB who is developing into some captain and batsman, and the senior men (Lyth, Sid and Patto) who all never accepted defeat.

This is a very special squad.




    
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Brian
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 8:49 PM 

Excellent post, Sid

 
 
Idle man
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Re: Championship | Somerset vs Yorkshire at Taunton (Day Four)

June 12 2017, 11:01 PM 

C'mon guys, debating tactics is one of the great things about cricket. Differing from the captain doesn't mean your sugggesting he's a moron. I would have taken a different approach and he was right. But I'll still be on the forum arguing about it next week.

It doesn't mean we aren't all 'over the moon'. Great result, great side.

 
 
 
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