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Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 9:34 AM 

JB's keeping has come on considerably thanks to hard work, but he is too high in the batting order for me given that he has to keep as well. Seven is about right. The top order is fragile, latter batting currently comes to the rescue. Sound familiar?

 
 
Dewsburian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 10:41 AM 

I think Jonny is well placed at no. 5. You can't have a player who's 12th in the world test rankings merely batting with the tail. South Africa have realized the same thing and moved de Kock accordingly.

 
 
Seadog73
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 11:34 AM 

Anderson finished them off in half an hour, great start to day two.

 
 
Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 11:54 AM 

Interesting Test... would think Philander and especially Morris would bowl well on this, so we need a first innings lead. Won't be easy I would have thought.

 
 
Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 12:02 PM 

... especially after Cook gone.
And Jennings.
Full scale collapse on now

 
 
Gavin Gray
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 12:17 PM 

The Yorkshire block will get us to a decent score.
What is the old quote about "the backbone is Yorkshire"

 
 
Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 12:22 PM 

Well, fascinating contest Joe v Philander. Two high class players.
GB has passed 1,000 fc runs for the season by the way.


    
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Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 1:07 PM 

From 3-2, rapid but cultured 50 off 40 balls here for Joe, - I don't believe in remote curses so I'll just say this is a wonderful innings so far. And fine support from GB.

 
 
Dwight_Schrute
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 1:09 PM 

Brilliant counter attacking Cricket.

 
 
East Coast Type
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 1:54 PM 

Gary mishandled again or just not quite international standard?


    
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Brian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 2:08 PM 

Was a poor shot. Not easy batting out there, though, unless your name is Joe Root.
Vaughan suggested he was trying so hard to get forward he went too far and got stuck. That might be close to the mark.
Re Joe, if this goes on for a substantial period of time I think we'll be talking about one of the great Test innings. They are bowling exceptionally well in helpful conditions and all other batsmen have struggled. They are now desperately searching for ways to contain him.


    
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Stu
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 2:25 PM 

Gary is not a nr 3. Doubt if he will ever get runs in that position either for us or England.

 
 
Idle Man
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 2:47 PM 

I too am dead against Gary at 3, for us or England. However, given the way our openers and top order have played this year, I'm not sure I'm being very logical. Coming in after Lyth, Lees and even Handscomb, hasn't exactly been like sitting with your pads on waiting for Hobbs or Sutcliffe to get out. Gary must have been in against the new ball pretty regularly.

 
 
Seadog73
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 2:55 PM 

Philander in these conditions as as good as it gets.

 
 
Stu
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 4:09 PM 

Any umps out there?

Why were they checking if the ball had hit the helmet of De Kock when Stokes was out. I thought that if the batsman hammered the ball at short leg and it bounced of short-legs helmet and was then caught the batsman was out. So why did it matter if it hit De Kocks helmet or not?

 
 

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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 4:19 PM 

So far England's top three scores have been put up by Tykes. So how how does not having Root, Bairstow and Ballance in Yorkshire's lineup effect our team's performance?

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Leg Glance
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 4:31 PM 

Stu, I thought that, if the ball touches the helmet, this renders the 'catch' invalid.

Jonny B has been caught out (literally but illegally) by this twice I think, seemingly, not aware of the laws at the time, and it was no surprise to me to see it reviewed with Jonny at the non striker's end.

The rebound off Close's head type of dismissal was obviously pre helmet and the 5 runs awarded when the ball hits the helmet when placed on the field is the other change brought about by use of the helmet.

BTW, what a sorry lack of tail wagging.


    
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Brisn
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 5:41 PM 

Yes, that was the issue. Looked as if it didn't touch the helmet though

 
 
Guest
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 8:37 PM 

Ballance will be back with us before long. Root has absolutely sold his mate down the river bringing him back to bat at three.

 
 
Dewsburian
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Re: 2nd Test | England vs South Africa at Trent Bridge (Match Thread)

July 15 2017, 8:45 PM 

The moment the ball touches a helmet, it's "dead". Any catch thereafter is invalid.
It's easy to see why this should be the case with silly point or short leg, not so clear when it's the wicket keeper. I suspect they may revise the law at some point.

 
 
 
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