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It gets worse

September 4 2017 at 9:52 AM
Stu  (Login StuartRA)
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Not only are we without Lyth for tomorrow, Marsh misses our last two games. We have had no luck at all this season with our overseas players. We are doomed!!

From todays "Press"

"......Unfortunately, Marsh will only play this game and at Surrey next week before returning to Perth ahead of Western Australia’s domestic campaign.
That is earlier than originally planned, and it is understood Yorkshire are assessing their options regarding an overseas replacement......."


    
This message has been edited by StuartRA on Sep 4, 2017 10:14 AM


 
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Lew
(Login Lewis116)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 11:02 AM 

I have to be honest, the "hit and miss" and constant changing of our overseas players makes a mockery of the pride in playing for the shirt.

Not s big Kolpak lover but would much prefer finding a Kolpak who will be available throughout the season.

 
 
Fraisse10
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 11:14 AM 

Our overseas players - or maybe it is everyone's - seem to be terminally unreliable. Agree that a Kolpak who can commit to the team would be a much better bet - or better yet, stick with our home-grown players. In recent seasons we could hardly have done worse.

 
 
Stu
(Login StuartRA)
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 11:19 AM 

Agree, going forward a kolpack is now becoming a much better option than an overseas player. Someone like Chanderpaul, Sangakkara or Abbott. Anyone who has retired from International cricket. They are available ALL season in ALL formats. That is who we need to be looking for next season

 
 
Brian
(Login NewBrian)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 11:30 AM 

I'm not sure I can face going to this match. I fully expect four days of weather havoc anyway, with sporadic downpours of frogs, locusts and three-toed sloths. That's the way our season is going.
I can't see a victory, but if we do get any play before the end of term we just need one player to stand up and be a hero with bat or ball to give us some hope for the future.

 
 
Stu
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 11:48 AM 

With the weather forecast, the lack of form of our team, on the back of 4 stuffings on the bounce, the possible absence of Lyth and Middlesex`s great recent record against us, I agree, it is not a match I am really looking forward to. I fear a stuffing, or at best a rained off draw.

Throw in the early September start with damp misty conditions, and the stupid "no toss" rule (which really needs ditching at the end of this season, as it gives to much advantage to the "away" team), I would not be surprised (if we play) for us to be 5 down by 12.30 tomorrow.


    
This message has been edited by StuartRA on Sep 4, 2017 11:48 AM


 
 
Guest
(Login ThirdUmpire)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 12:14 PM 

Well that would show some improvement from our position at the same time on our last four day match....

 
 
Martin
(Login Martin00)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 12:18 PM 

You can fully understand that the national team's requirements will always trump whatever might have been agreed with a domestic side. But a domestic team trumping what has been agreed with another domestic team? I find that hard to accept. It also seems incredible that Western Australia weren't able to be clear about when Marsh was needed back in Australia at the time he was signed.

 
 
garywilson
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 12:22 PM 

Same thing happened last year . Lehmann was called back to a training camp rather than being allowed to play at Lords .

 
 
Martin
(Login Martin00)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 12:42 PM 

It did indeed. I just find it odd that this information is not known when the player is signed. We might still sign him but at least we know what we are getting.

 
 
Kevin Owens
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In other news...

September 4 2017, 1:34 PM 

Ray and Alan the rope men are stepping down due to the new rugby stand getting done

 
 
Twelfth Man
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 1:42 PM 

Can't our players plan their wives' child birth for the sixth months of the year when there's no cricket?!

 
 
sid
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 1:47 PM 

Kevin: I understand Ray and Alan are required for the final two games and the football stand end, including the balcony, will operate as normal.

We should mark its passing in some way.

 
 
Pyrahtechnics
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 2:47 PM 

I'm not sure how the Yorkshire heirarchy can expect Australian players to be available for a full County Criket season when the Australian domestic season has always started in the second half of September, clearly lessons have not been learned with Jake Lehmann's early departure from last season.

For an overseas player, Kane Williamson has just finished playing CPL cricket for the Barbados Tridents so get him on board for the remaining County Championship games. New Zealand's domestic season doesn't begin until late October and the next New Zealand international is late November.

 
 
Idle man
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 2:55 PM 

Got a bit confused skim reading this. Initially got the impression Ray and Alan were not going to be available for rope duties because they were required in Australia.

 
 
Stu
(Login StuartRA)
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 3:11 PM 

Agree Pyrahtechnics. We seem to be obsessed with Aussie players and we have the same problem every time with them. Maxwell, Finch, Head, Lehmann, Hanscombe, Marsh, and probably others I have forgotten about. All called away at somepoint or other for training camps or tours. Keep away from the Aussies in future.

 
 
marsker
(Login marskeman)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 3:15 PM 

and that darren lehmann was useless, never got called back once.

 
 
Steve C
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 3:29 PM 

Bevan wasnt bad either.......

I don't think its the fault of Australians - just the sheer volume of cricket being played these days...

 
 

Guest
(Login dpressed)

Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 6:06 PM 

Oh yes Lehmann got called back in 2002. Some of us were happy as it meant that Richard Blakey could take over as captain. He managed to win a Championship match, at L*nc*shire AND won the C&G cup

 
 

Dave Morton
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Re: It gets worse

September 4 2017, 8:45 PM 

I have argued against Kolpaks, but one reliable one, available all season, would suit me INSTEAD of an overseas player.

Does anyone know? Are Kolpaks generally signed for just one season, or is it usually a two or three year contract?

 
 
 
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