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Yorkshire's contracted players

November 1 2017 at 9:37 PM
JollyD  (Login JollyD)

 
Not a day goes by without news from other counties of extended contracts, young players gaining their first contract or comings and goings. As usual, there is a deafening silence from Headingley. There must be some activity but supporters are being told nothing. The website is full of adverts for international matches in 2018 and even 2019, but nothing meaningful about players. Come on, Yorkshire, we are interested.

 
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marsker
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 1 2017, 10:47 PM 

a lot of the contract extensions were announced before the end of the season.

 
 
marsker
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November 1 2017, 10:48 PM 



    
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sid
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 1 2017, 10:56 PM 

Lots of fringe players whose futures are unclear eg Thompson, Wainman, Logan, Tatersall, Shaw, maybe Warner and Barnes. Decisions must have been made on these and others.

 
 
JollyD
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Yorkshire's contracted players

November 2 2017, 11:53 AM 

The point you make, Sid, encapsulates exactly the position. Wainman, Warner and Shaw are contracted players and would be looking for extensions. Thompson, Barnes and Logan were not contracted players at the end of the season but must surely have learned their fate by now. Tattersall is employed on a year by year basis. There is also Callis who, extraordinarily, has been kept on as a 'senior Academy player' for three years.
For some years there has been a practice of informing young Academy players in June or July if they are to be offered a junior professional contract. They are, however, instructed to keep the information to themselves pending an official announcement. This is all very well, but the announcement is often never made.
I am surprised that Marsker claims that most of the contract extensions were announced before the end of the season.
I stand to be corrected, but have no recollection of announcements regarding Lyth, Lees, Leaning, Hodd, Bresnan, Rashid, Rafiq, Brooks, Plunkett, Patterson, Fisher nor most of the junior pros.
They will all be on roll-over contracts and would expect some indication of the club's intentions at the end of the penultimate year of their contract. Surely some of them have reached that position.

 
 
Guest
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 2 2017, 1:19 PM 

Yorkshire are crap at putting out this kind of info aren't they. Anyway, this is my limited understanding of the current situation.


Contracted until end of 2020 season:

Kholer-Cadmore (announced 08/06/17)

Contracted until end of 2019 season:

Lees (announced 04/02/15)
Root (06/05/16)
Rashid (04/06/16)
Ballance (21/03/17)

Contracted until end of 2018 season:

Lyth (annouced 27/01/15)
Willey (19/08/15)
Bairstow (15/12/15)
J Brooks (28/02/17)
Patterson (03/03/17)
Carver (30/03/17)
Waite (30/03/17)
Shaw (30/03/17)
Warner (30/03/17)
Plunkett (10/04/2017)
Coad (19/04/17)
Rafiq (17/05/17)

No idea:

Leaning (last announced contract ran out end of 2017)
Tattersall (2017)
Bresnan (2016)
Hodd (2016)
Fisher (2016)
Wainman (2015)
H Brook (length of contract never revealed)

Senior Academy

Callis
Thompson
Barnes

 
 
JollyD
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Yorkshire's contracted players

November 15 2017, 3:18 PM 

Announcement today clarifies the position of some of the junior players. There is no mention of Callis, a senior academy player for three years, nor of Thompson, last year's academy captain. There are now a number of senior academy players. I find this a worrying trend. Players in this category are paid much less than junior professionals. Indeed, they receive little more than pocket money and must rely increasingly on parents. This may save the club a few bob to spend on a plethora of fleeting overseas signings, but is hardly encouraging for loyal local boys. The academy proper appears to have only five players, whereas in the past it has had up to 12. Only one scholarship boy (George Hill) has been raised to academy status. Are we trying to run our junior sides on the cheap ?

 
 
Geoff B
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Thompson

November 15 2017, 8:57 PM 

Website lists Thompson, along with Jared Warner, as junior pro's.

Mentions he will be returning to play for Pudsey St Lawrence in 2018 instead of the Academy.

 
 
JollyD
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Yorkshire's contracted players

November 15 2017, 9:40 PM 

Thank you, Geoff. I note that they are now listed though no formal announcement was made. Thompson is, of course, too old for the Academy, so a return to St. Lawrence was always on the cards.
Glad that Tattersall now has a second team cap to go with his additional year's contract. I note also in a reported interview with Coad that Wainman is still involved. Warner is 'treading water' as a junior pro. So gradually news of the younger players, at least, is percolating through.

 
 
Geoff B
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Tattersall

November 15 2017, 10:46 PM 

Of course it's great when somebody of real talent comes sailing through into the first team and there isn't any doubt they are going to make the grade. It would be brilliant though if someone such as Tattersall could battle through against the odds and make it.

I must make a point of watching him play in 2018, terrific if he is pushing for a spot in the first team, though that might mean plan A wasn't working.


    
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Me4791
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 16 2017, 6:16 AM 

Ryan Gibson looks like he has officially left as he is not on the website profiles and after his disciplinary trouble and also it appears Elliot Callis has been released as he is not been retained as a senior academy player and is not with the Junior professionals unlike Thompson who has signed. Academy players Ben Ainsley and Yasser Imtiaz have also left.


    
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Geoff B
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Eliot Callis

November 16 2017, 9:43 AM 

Callis had a few games for Bedfordshire throughout last season, perhaps he might stay in the game through the minor counties competition.

 
 
Geoff B
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Does he really mean that!

November 16 2017, 5:53 PM 

Just re-read the Ian Dews review of the season on the club website. Interesting his use of the term 'middle of the road' in the last paragraph!


"The key to it is that we’ve got to have players ready to play when Galey (Andrew Gale) and Gary (Ballance) need them up above. We’ve got to have players in form, ready to play who can do the job, whether that’s a senior player that’s been left out or a junior player like Harry Brook, or a middle of the road player like Ben Coad who’s served his apprenticeship"

I hope he means someone who is neither a senior or a junior player.

 
 
JollyD
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Yorkshire's contracted players

November 16 2017, 7:55 PM 

I think it just means that Ian Dews is a better coach than he is a wordsmith.

 
 
Pyrahtechnics
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November 17 2017, 6:31 PM 

Even looking the Academy/2nd XI squad at this moment in time, batting options are thin on the ground with Brook and Tattersall realistically as next in line while other batsmen are a work in progress.

Working with what we've got is one thing, but the lack of competition for places mean if batsmen continue to be out of form then the batting problems still remain, unless signings are made to bolster options and more importantly create healthy competition so current senior players don't get complacent.

Realistically Root and Bairstow will be rested for the rest of April after completing a solid five month tour of Oceania. We'll be lucky to see them play a round of County Championship cricket and a couple of white ball games.

The think-tank's management does not fill me with confidence, the foundations which Jason Gillespie laid in his tenure are not being properly built on. Warwickshire are doing a far better job of addressing their ageing squad and red ball form, by making signings as well as giving 2nd XI batsmen a fair crack.

It's only a matter of time when Warwickshire come back stronger and emulate what Yorkshire did in 2012-2015, while the Yorkshire management continue to take a blinkered view in coaching personnel and squad transitioning. But as long as the twitter propaganda feed continues to churn out fake news, click bait articles and continue to plug international ticket sales at every given opportunity, everything is all rosy.


 
 
Frank Smith
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 17 2017, 9:09 PM 

I agree totally with your thoughts. Weak batting lineup is actually weaker than last year currently. No overseas or experienced county batsmen even getting mentioned. Lump on us going down next season. Stagnation has fully crept in and there is no pruning currently being undertaken. Worrying times ahead

 
 
Idle man
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 17 2017, 10:18 PM 

Mentioned by whom? It's never been the habit of cricket clubs, this one in particular, to engage in rumour and gossip. When did we find out about Handscomb and Marsh last year? And who do you want pruned? We allowed one player to move elsewhere last year, and a significant number are still moaning about it, while the signing we made, generally seen by his previous county as a promising young batsman, is already considered by some of the same posters to be not fit for purpose.

I admit to my own worries, you'd have to be naïve not to have any after the back-end of last season. Where I part company from some others is the implication - and it is an implication, it's rarely accompanied by any specific realistic suggestions, that the management don't do anything or that the solutions are obvious and easy.


    
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Geoff B
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Amen to that

November 18 2017, 8:31 AM 

I'm with you idle man. I think we have a decent squad, we just need a few more to play to their potential.

Of course if a really good wicket keeper batsman became available I could go along with a domestic signing.

We need a decent overseas obviously but we need one who is going to be available and not snatched away when we most need them. Australia seems to be our country of choice but their selection process for batsmen is all over the place at the moment. With little proven class about, anyone in form who caught our eye is likely to catch the selectors eyes as well.


 
 
Pyrahtechnics
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 18 2017, 8:34 PM 

Gone are the days where Overseas players would be available for a full season of County Cricket. This is a combination of more international cricker played in our summer, the IPL and now CPL becoming a major player in T20.

For the Yorkshire management to rigidly stick to wanting one Overseas player for an entire season is outdated and lack flexible thinking in their planning. Any international player possibly available for an entire season County Cricket would be snapped up by now. Durham have done remarkably well to secure the services of New Zealand top order bat Tom Latham for almost the entire 2018 season and this business was done in early October. In my opinion he is a better player than Peter Handscomb across all formats and even with the gloves.

What I feel Yorkshire should be doing is looking for a red ball overseas bat from April until early July, then sign two Twenty20 specialist overseas for the T20 Blast who are keen to develop their red ball skills for the season remaining. Maybe Yorkshire could entice Glenn Maxwell for another stint if he harbours ambitions to play in the 2019 Ashes series.




 
 
Dwight_Schrute
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Re: Yorkshire's contracted players

November 18 2017, 9:31 PM 

Maxwell a good shout. Played one of the best red ball inns of the season when with us, despite reservations.

 
 
 
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