An online discussion area for readers of Ham Radio Online.
Please Use New Forum at http://www.delphi.com/hamradioonline/messagesbyAs of 3 January 2000, this Forum has been set to "read only" mode. To post messages, please use the new forum at http://www.delphi.com/hamradioonline/messages Or, reachable by clicking on "Forums" on the main web page at http://hamradio-online.com Thank you, Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.184.13 |
THIS FORUM IS READ ONLY AS OF 3 JAN 2000byAs of 3 January 2000, this Forum has been set to "read only" mode. To post messages, please use the new forum at http://www.delphi.com/hamradioonline/messages Or, reachable by clicking on "Forums" on the main web page at http://hamradio-online.com Thank you, Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.184.13 |
Banner Exchange for HAM-RadiobyHi all.... Happy new year for 2000 and an wonderfull radio year. If you have an HAM-Radio website and you will more hits, come to the Banner Exchange for HAM-Radio. free sign up, high ratio 5:4 and 1000 credits. 73 Cil http://come.to/pa1rbz from IP address 213.46.32.5 |
New Online Poll in the New ForumbyI've just set up an online poll regarding views on the new license restructuring decision. Cast your opinion using the new online forum under the "License Restructuring" topic. You can access the new forum using the "Forums" link on the main page at http://hamradio-online.com. Or by going directly to: http://www.delphi.com/hamradioonline/messages 73, Ed, KF7VY from IP address 204.227.186.10 |
finallyby mikeI really like the changes the will go in effect in April. It was ridiculous how many tests US hams had to go through to get on HF phone. The Novice 10meter phone privileges were there, but 10 just isn't open all the time. They can talk all they want about the Tech License and it's privileges above 50mhz, but the real thrill of Amateur radio for me, and I think many others, is the long distance abilities on our shortwave bands. I am not saying I don't like or use VHF/UHF, but alot of times I can't get anyone on the repeaters to talk to me simply because they only will talk to those they already know. HF is totally different. My biggest surprise in all of this was that they got rid of the No Code License. That's fine with me. I love CW but just feel it was keeping too many people out of the hobby. It should always be a requirement for full privileges (ie, Extra Licensees) but it's emphasis in the last few years has been too much. BTW Ed, if I could make a suggestion, you said in an earlier post that you don't censor the board at all, and I respect that. But I frequent a number of broadcast boards, some our open and some are moderated. The moderated boards are the most fun and the most used. Intelligent people get chased off of the other ones and no meaningful dialogue ever appears. There only seem to be a handfull of regulars on this board and I think there is a reason for that. I wish you would moderate it. But that's just my opinion. from IP address 206.187.74.80 |
Mike..read it againbyI don't think that you read the text of the R & O correctly...The "no-code" tech is alive and well. Also the T+ is retained...Altho they want to eliminate the " + " sign..... from IP address 209.209.18.46 |
Yaesu FT-40 RX Extend?by If there's a better site to post this question, please let me know. *** Just acquired a Yaesu FT-40R with A-16S keyboard and was surprised/disappointed at the narrow RX coverage. Anyone know the keystrokes (I suspect there are some) to open up the RX? Thanks, Andy-N4PDQ from IP address 63.10.52.143 |
An Olive Branchby LWLongbowI think I have proven my point on the much needed changes in Amateur Radio for the next century. In light of the FCC release on Amateur Radio restructuring, I am satisfied with 95% of the changes. Also I was already aware of some of the content before the release. Five (5) wpm code testing for General to Extra class Licenses is a mega triumph over the bickering and fighting over retaining Morse Code Testing in Amateur Radio. For whatever it's worth (CW) is all but gone from Amateur Radio testing and there is no doubt in my mind by the year 2002 (CW) will have faded into the sunset. On the ARRL...well go back and read my articles, they the (ARRL) lost on almost every one of their recommendations and proposals for restructuring, much like I said they would. The ARRL is finished as the representative for Amateur Radio Operators. It's too bad that everyone on this forum hated my postings but I did try to add a little humor to those articles. My Grandson is on holiday he called me by long distance today and he says Grandpa you won!! you won!! the FCC release on restructuring is all over the Internet, I replied yes son we did. Since I'm not welcome hear on HRO I willnot be posting anymore articles on this forum. (So I am presenting an Olive Branch) We can now rest our case, we won a major victory over (CW) and the FCC established a milestone in Amateur Radio for all-time . ----Farewell Amateur Radio...Seven three de LWLongbow from IP address 63.23.64.7 |
re: ARRL did indeed lose big timebyAs noted in a past post, I analyzed the ARRL's 1996/1997 survey of amateur radio operators and found that they had misrepresented the statistical conclusions of that survey to show a "pro-code" sentiment that did not exist. They had jiggled the numbers to reach their desired conclusion. I filed an extensive analysis of that survey as Reply Comments to the ARRL's original comments (since the ARRL submitted the survey as part of their arguments) and proved that there own survey actually showed a "no code" bias. The ARRL has lost, completely. The FCC has said unquivocably that the ARRL does not represent Amateur Radio in the U.S. today. Will the ARRL "get it" though? I really doubt it. It took them this long to only grungingly propose new changes, or to recently solicit input on ideas for incorporating new technology into Amateur radio. All of it is, in my view, too little, too late. The ARRL is not an organization that moves quickly and decisively. Even if they "get it", it will take them 3 years to do anything about it. Also, rest assured that I did not know anyone (including me) offended by your opinions. We just didn't understand what was to be accomplished by posting the same short message "So long (CW), Farewell Amateur Radio" every single day." I favor a diversity of opinion and I do not censor this BBS at all. Thank you, LW Longbow for your comments. May I ask a favor? Feel free to sign your posts with "So long (CW)", but do you have to keep the negative sounding "Farewell Amateur Radio"? The license restructuring presents us with an opening to continue with fundamental, forward looking changes to the Amateur service. We have it within ourselves to make Amateur radio successful, dynamic and an exciting place for everyone as we enter the 21st century. 73, Ed, KF7VY from IP address 204.227.186.55 |
ARRL LOST BIG TIME!byEd, The ARRL surely did lose big time! My question is this. Is there a beter organization for progressive hams to look to for participation in? Any recomendations? 73 kc5adf Bill Allen from IP address 206.64.104.53 |
Your Olive Branch is appreciatedby Don, W5EIWell Longbow, you got at least part of your wish, now that restructuring has finally arrived. I'm happy for you, and I agree that the changes the FCC has instituted for Amateur Radio testing are great. It is just a first step, and I hope that the ARRL will get into line on this issue and come out in favor of dropping code testing altogether. I won't hold my breath on that one. The New Year promises to be a good one for ham radio, and I wish you good luck. I try to accentuate the positive, so I'm going to say I enjoyed our little tilt. Stick around if you please, and I promise to be nice. from IP address 205.188.197.22 |
I'm concered LW - no hard feelings?byLW, I hope my criticism of you wasn't so harsh that I made you feel unwelcome. If so, please accept my apologies - that was not my intent. I want you to know that I did not have a problem with you personally or your opinions per se. There were some times when I thought you went a bit overboard with the way you expressed your opinions, but that's it. I feel that one of the main weaknesses of the ARRL is that they tend to ignore and/or silence their "loyal opposition". I think this is the main reason they are losing so much credibility with the FCC and the amateur radio community in general. With that in mind, if you choose to leave this forum for good because you feel like "you've won" or your point has finally been take, then that is your choice. If you still have something to say in an ongoing dialogue I hope that you do not leave because you feel that your voice is unwelcome. Again, if my flames got too hot in a previous post, I apologize. 73, -Brian KV4CA from IP address 209.208.17.252 |
New HRO Forum online, this one still available for a whilebyThe main page now has links to the new HRO forum. This new forum will be replacing the Network54 provided forum that has been in use at Ham Radio Online. The new forum offers numerous new features including: * you should be able to post messages in HTML format * you should be able to post images (I haven't figured out how just yet) * the new forum supports online polls - I may be able to eventually enable any registered user to create an online poll. * Better organization of messages * Ability to display only "new" messages, just "unread" messages, and so on, to make it easier to quickly see what's happening on the discussion forums. * When you post a new message, you can simultaneously email that message to up to 10 people * You can edit messages that you have already posted. This way you can fix errors or make changes when you have new information. * Anyone can read messages by signing in as a "Guest" * To post a message, you must register. The registration process will need your email address and will send you a confirmation via email that you must reply to. Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.186.59 |
ARRL Bulletin on restructuring, plus link to FCC R&ObyNEWINGTON, CT, Dec 30, 1999 -- Amateur Radio will get a new look in the new millennium. The FCC today issued its long-awaited Report and Order in the ` 1998 Biennial Regulatory Review of Part 97 -- more commonly known as "license restructuring." The bottom line is that starting April 15, 2000, there will be three license classes -- Technician, General, and Amateur Extra -- and a single Morse code requirement--5 WPM. "We believe that an individual's ability to demonstrate increased Morse code proficiency is not necessarily indicative of that individual's ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art," the FCC said. Besides drastically streamlining the Amateur Radio licensing process, the FCC said its actions would "eliminate unnecessary requirements that may discourage or limit individuals from becoming trained operators, technicians, and electronic experts." Although no new Novice and Advanced licenses will be issued after the effective date of the Report and Order, the FCC does not plan to automatically upgrade any existing license privileges. The ARRL had proposed a one-time across-the-board upgrading of current Novice and Tech Plus licensees to General class, but the FCC declined to adopt the idea. This means that current licensees will retain their current operating privileges, including access to various modes and subbands, and will be able to renew their licenses indefinitely. Starting April 15, 2000, individuals who qualified for the Technician class license prior to March 21, 1987, will be able to upgrade to General class by providing documentary proof to a Volunteer Examiner Coordinator, paying an application fee, and completing FCC Form 605. The FCC's decision not to automatically upgrade Novice and Tech Plus licensees means the current Novice/Tech Plus HF subbands will remain and not be "refarmed" to higher class licensees as the ARRL had proposed. The FCC said it did not refarm these subbands because there was "no consensus" within the amateur community as to what to do with them. As it had proposed earlier, the FCC decided to lump Technician and Tech Plus licensees into a single licensee database, all designated as "Technician" licensees. Those who can document having passed the 5 WPM Morse code examination will continue to have the current Tech Plus HF privileges. "If documentation is needed to verify whether a licensee has passed a telegraphy examination, we may request the documentation from that licensee or the VECs," the FCC said. In addition to reducing the number of license classes from six to three and eliminating the 20 and 13 WPM code tests, the FCC also will reduce the number of written examination elements from five to three, authorize Advanced Class hams to prepare and administer General class examinations, and eliminate Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service (RACES) station licenses. RACES will remain,however. "After review of the record, we conclude that we should eliminate RACES station licenses because RACES station licenses are unnecessary for amateur stations and amateur service licenses to provide emergency communications" Under the new licensing scheme, there will be four examination elements. Element 1 will be the 5 WPM Morse code exam. Element 2 will be a 35-question written test to obtain a Technician license; Element 3 will be a 35-question written test to obtain a General license Element 4 will be a 50-question written test for the Amateur Extra license. The FCC has left it in the hands of the National Conference of VECs Question Pool Committee to determine the specific mix and makeup of written examination questions. Current Amateur Radio study materials remain valid at least until the new rules become effective in April. The FCC's new licensing plan means someone will be able to become a ham by passing a single 35-question written examination. The plan also simplifies and shortens the upgrade path from the ground floor through Amateur Extra--especially since amateurs will only have to pass one Morse code test. Elimination of the 13 and 20 WPM Morse requirements also means an end to physician certification waivers for applicants claiming an inability to pass the Morse code examination due to physical handicap. The effective date provides a window of upgrade opportunity for current Advanced licensees. Between now and April 15, current Advanced holders may take the existing Element 4B, a 40-question test, giving them credit for having passed the current Extra written examination. Likewise, holders of a Certificate of Successful Completion of Examination (CSCE) for Elements 3B or 4B dated on or after April 17, 1999, will be able to qualify for General or Amateur Extra respectively when the new rules go into effect on April 15, 2000. The FCC disagreed with the League's suggestion that it undertake a restructuring of operating privileges along with licensing restructuring. "We believe that in light of ongoing discussions concerning implementation of new and more modern communications technologies within the amateur service community, we should accord the amateur service community an opportunity to complete such discussions and possibly reach a consensus regarding implementation of new technologies before we undertake a comprehensive restructuring of the amateur service operating privileges and frequencies," the FCC said in its Report and Order. In its amendments to Part 97, the FCC's Report and Order refers to a "Club Station Call Sign Administrator," something that does not exist under the current rules and which was not explained in the R&O itself. An FCC spokesperson said the Commission plans to issue a Public Notice soon to explain the program and to solicit qualified entities to serve as call sign administrators for club station applications. A copy of the entire Report and Order (FCC 99-412) is available from the FCC Web site in plain text. http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/1999/db991230/fcc99412.txt from IP address 204.227.186.90 |
And a brief editorial commentbyIt appears from this R&O, that for the 2nd time in two years, the FCC has gone in a direction completely opposite to that promoted by the ARRL. Last year, the ARRL proposed that voluntary bandplans should be made mandatory. That proposal was opposed unanimously, as I recall, with not one comment filed in favor of the ARRL's proposal. In this license restructuring process, the ARRL wanted to retain 4 license classes and to maintain much higher telegraphy proficiency requirements. A very quick overview indicates that the ARRL has been largely ignored. This sequence of events reaffirms that the ARRL is out of touch with mainstream Amateur Radio in the U.S. today. Watch for fall out from this R&O to slam into the ARRL. Will the ARRL "Get it" finally? Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.186.90 |
ARRL: Wake up and smell the ESPRESSOby...it's not your ol' cup o' Joe! I think the FCC is basically sending a message to the ARRL - get back in step with your service. Likewise, the rest of us should take heed - we'll only be kept around as long as we continue to provide meaningful value to the general public. To tell you the truth Ed, I hope this does serve as a wake-up call to some folks at ARRL. There are some among them who need to take a good hard look in the mirror...the world is not changing, it has CHANGED. And here's hoping that the change won't end with CW. We need to fundamentally re-examine our perspective in several other areas as well - technology, emergency communications, emissions, right on down the line... ...and here's hoping that this forum will continue to be a place where insights are shared, ideas tested, and conventional wisdom (for the sake of itself) challenged. Today CW, tomorrow ---! 73 to all, -Brian P.S. I'm really looking forward to watching a bunch of my no- and low- code Technician friends join me on HF... from IP address 209.208.30.195 |
Arrl "getting it"...byEd, Good comments. I sure hope the ARRL finally gets it. I read the R&O front to back last night and it is obvious that the ARRL has lost any clout it might of had with the FCC. While I am an ARRL member, and probably will remain one, I will be looking for another organization that is actually progressive in its outlook (part of the the Amateur Radio mandate) and the is actually in touch with Ham Radio today. The ARRL is simply not viewed by the FCC as the leader and spokesman for the Ameteur Radio community anymore. This is a golden opportunity for other or new organizations to step up the plate and take a swing at REAL LEADERSHIP WITH A PROGRESSIVE OUTLOOK. I know that the ARRL recommendations were sort of progressive, but the point is that they came to the party way to late and only after they saw they were being left behind. I really have not been around long enough to know why the ARRL has become what it is, but I hope this was a major wake up call from the FCC. As to the restructuring, I think the FCC did a commendable job and made changes that, while they will not be appreciated by all, are actually very realistic and practical. I was particularly pleased that the FCC did not adopt the "just give and automatic upgrade to everyone" approach the ARRL suggested. Those written tests need to be taken by everyone to upgrade. I hope the written test are also made tougher, and I think they will be. 73 kc5adf Bill Allen from IP address 206.64.104.53 |
Arrived it has and I am happyby LWLongbowLet's continue to move forward into the 21st century technology. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio and (goodbye) Seven Three de LWLongbow P.S Tra, La, La, La, La, La, La. from IP address 63.24.149.207 |
RESTRUCTURING HAS NOW ARRIVED!!!!!!!!!byAmateur Restructuring is Here: Three License Classes, One Code Speed (December 30, 1999) -- Amateur Radio will get a new look in the new millennium. The FCC today issued its long-awaited Report and Order in the 1998 Biennial Regulatory Review of Part 97--more commonly known as "license restructuring." The bottom line is that starting April 15, 2000, there will be three license classes--Technician, General, and Amateur Extra--and a single Morse code requirement--5 WPM. from IP address 206.64.104.53 |
Code Tutorial Software CDbyKnow a good Morse Code tutorial? I just got my Morse Code Tutor Gold, and it's awful - I need a good recommendation and source, thank you! from IP address 165.121.32.221 |
CW resourcesbyThe following is some CW and written test resources for those interested. Here is a web sites to download some good code software Morse Academy. http://ah0a.org/AH0A.html Also, download the Wavegen program at this site. It takes any text file and creates a CW wave file using the character rate, sending rate, and tone you specify. The best ham testing website for taking practice written exams for all classes and fully configurable code practice and code tests with multiple choice test and key is: http://www.biochem.mcw.edu/Postdocs/Simon/radio/exam.html I would recommend that if one wants to take his code practice on the road with him, get the MFJ-418 Code Tutor - it is $79 well invested. Also get the book available at MFJ called Morse Code: Breaking the Barrier (the Koch Method) by Dave Finley, N1IRZ. http://www.mfjenterprises.com Please read the following article before you go any further learning the code, you won't regret it! http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/4078/bill/finley.htm 73s KC5ADF Bill Allen from IP address 206.64.104.53 |
Try NuMorsebyDavid, I would highly recommend that you download a copy of NuMorse by G4AUD. At the risk of sounding like a salesman, here are some of the features I like: 1) It's shareware. You can download it and try it out risk free. 2) It's CHEAP. I actually paid for mine, and it seems like it was only about 20 bucks. 3) The unregistered version goes to 10 wpm, variable in any increment from 1 wpm up. 4) The registered version goes to 48 wpm (sounds like Eddie Van Halen at 78 speed to me...) 5) Farnsworth. 6) Random Characters, QSOs, drills, etc... 7) It works under Win '95/'98 8) It uses your sound card. If you so desire, (or if you're out of your mind) you can even practice copying "chirpy" code. I think I downloaded my copy of it off QRZ.com, but don't hold me to that...scrounge around and let me know if you have trouble finding it. I used it successfully, and liked it a lot. Best of luck! from IP address 209.208.30.131 |
A New Years Greeting for Ed. Please read e-mail attachment.by LWLongbowHappy New. from IP address 63.23.64.172 |
good operators vs. bad operatorsbyThis is actually from a preverious reply I made further down the list, but I wanted to bring it to the top. It was in response to a post concerning the suposed deterioration of Ham Radio with the advent of the No Coders. --------------- Hi! A lot of what you say is true, but not all that came in through the no code route fit into that mold. Of course, I am sure you would agree with that. The other side of the coin is that there are plenty of guys who obviously passed tons of code tests (i.e. they hold extra tickets) yet get out on 75meters and are the worst LIDS of the bunch. You have identified one of the big problems of Ham Radio today, however: Poor Operators. Sadly there are poor operators of every class liscense and every code skill (from 0-40wpm). I have read a lot of the FCC posts concerning disciplinary actions taken. It seems that the LIDs run the spectrum from No Code all the way up to Extra, with some of the very worst offenses being sometimes perpetrated by the highest class liscense holders. My point? Bad CBers can, and do, ofter learn CW and continue their Bad ways on HF. I am on VHF much of the time, where the vast majority of no coders live, and don't hear the pollution of the air waves near like I do on HF. Who is operating on HF? Well, people like me and you who did actually pass a code test! :-)) I hear bad and good operating practices on all bands - code and no code bands. This has proved to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that the code has nothing to do with being a good or bad operator. A person being diligent enough to learn to copy 40wpm does not in any way garantee that that person won't be a Bad CBer when the switches over to SSB. That all being said, the issue is not about code or no code. The issue is poor operating practice regardless of liscense class. Don't blame "no coders" for poor operating practices when the worst practice are heard on the bands where they are not operating. Again, Bad CBers [or those with that mentality] (not all CBers, because I have actually heard some guys on CB who are better operators than some Hams) can and do learn code just as readily as anyone else. They are the ones who trash out HF, often by uttering the words "CQ Contest" without checking frequency first or by operating to close in the band to others who where there first. Others by starting nets on top of legitimate QSO's. Others by cursing like saliors. In other words, behaving like drunk truck drivers on CB. A pox on any Amateur radio operator who operates that way, whether he is 0wpm or 40wpm. A blessing upon all good Amateur radio operators, whether he is 0wpm or 40wpm! 73 kc5adf Bill Allen ------------------ from IP address 206.64.104.89 |
The Point, Exactly...by...Perfect Bill, This is the problem and CW or No-CW is not the cause!! There is no way anyone can prove to me that CW proficiency creates good operators and No-Code creates poor operators. There are just too many examples that prove both of these statements wrong!! Now the real question is not CW or No-CW, but it should be "How Do We Upgrade To Better Operators?" If that requires different question pools or "probationary learner's permits" or whatever, so be it; but that is what all of this wasted, argumentitive energy should be focused on, not CW! I do not feel I am a better operator now than I was as a Technician because of CW; better because I am more experienced, but not because I passed a CW exam. If everyone was focused on being the best, courtious operator possible, the CW issue would have (and should have) died a long time ago. I learned CW because I wanted to get to the next level. I am not going to begrudge someone in the future if they don't have to pass a CW exam. So be it. I had to learn slide rule in high school; should I hold that against the students of today? Come on!! But I will hold something against them if they don't behave!! I have recently "found" this forum and I enjoy it greatly. Thank you for the opportunity to "voice" my opinion. 73's to all and Happy New Year!! Jeff, KB9MRU from IP address 156.46.239.193 |
Enforcement is one key...byAs much as I hate to admit it, enforcement is a critical part of the effort to clean up the bands. Already a lot of the activity on 75 meters is cleaning itself up. It's amazing how behavior changes when operators have the knowledge that there might be a tape recording out there... It's a shame that it's necessary, but there are very few places I can think of in this day and age where self enforced standards and honor codes still work. Here are some subjects for FCC license testing that might help a little bit long-term: 1) Good on-the-air manners. 2) Tactful, but firm ways of pointing out bad operating behavior to the offender. 3) The process for reporting habitual violators. Any other suggestions? from IP address 209.208.31.8 |
FYI - As of 12/29/1999 - my email is downbyEmail to kf7vy@amsat.org forwards to my real email address. Unfortunately, my real email server has died and won't be repaired until around 1/3/2000 (or shall I say 1900?) at the earliest. I am in process of redirecting my kf7vy@amsat.org email to another server - so I might be able to start getting mail again before the main server is repaired. But just in case you get mail sent to me bouncing back at you, you'll understand why. Thanks, Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.186.112 |
Email is probably working again (31 Dec UTC)byIt seems that the email server I use got restarted. Its actually running on a desktop computer (Mac) in an office in California and the owner of it is currently traveling on the East Coast. Since he lost his email too, he apparently called a colleague who appears to have rebooted the server and my email looks like its back again. 73, Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 204.227.186.78 |
| Find more forums on Amateur Radio | Create your own forum at Network54 |
| Copyright © 1999-2009 Network54. All rights reserved. Terms of Use Privacy Statement |