An online discussion area for readers of Ham Radio Online.
re: Red Cross IssuebyJust got back from a vacation trip a day early... couple of quick comments on this issue: (1) while the information, as noted, came to me by way of a highly trusted source, I have not yet had time to talk to the Red Cross to get their side of the story. Overall, I think it was mostly formalizing what has already been happening the past couple of years, as many comm options have become available for local emergencies. Large disasters will still rely on ARES communications, as part of the new policy, so the ice storm you referred to would be covered by ARES. (2) You should not blame the Red Cross for choosing to use other comm resources. It makes sense to choose to use celphones, 800 Mhz trunked radios, low VHF and other resources available to them today when responding to a wide variety of local emergencies where communications infrastructure is working just fine. Consider the opposite: What if the Red Cross chose to use only ham radio volunteers and made use of no other comm resources, even when those are available and more effective? That certainly makes no sense and does not fulfill their mission in providing aid. The Red Cross should use all appropriate resources when responding to a disaster - if I were a disaster victim, I would want the Red Cross to do that. "Blaming the Red Cross" is completely the wrong response-please do not do that. That is counterproductive and could act to alienate and harm the relationship that ARES/RACES has with local and national Red Cross. Ed, KF7VY from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Help with online radio showbyI'm trying to build an Online Radio Program. Could anyone please help? I want to know what equipment i should get, and how everything should work together. thanks, please e-mail me. from IP address 149.75.44.160 |
147.705 Oat Mtn...where did you go?byI have been an avid 147.705 listener since Oct. of 88 when both my wife & I heard a man on the scanner yelling out "we're having another one, we're having another one"! Then about 9 seconds later, we experienced a mild aftershock in the SFV area. Ever since then my "PRIORITY" frequency has been Oat Mtn. Recently, with all the earthquake activity here & abroad, I felt I would here discussion (always a very enlightening discussion going on - my compliments to the chef they call Tom) on recent events but to my dismay, nothing. I can't remember the last time I heard a "felt report". Every once in awhile I pick up something like a simplex conversation but nothing else. I Used to hear a club that would operate on Thursday's but I don't think I've heard them either. You were a valuable source of information here in San Fernando/Sylmar...Where did you go my friend?? from IP address 152.163.201.187 |
Opinion: Amateur Radio Has Lost Its UniquenessbyI just got arount to reading the opinion "Amateur Radio Has Lost Its Uniqueness" (too busy these days at work), and found it a bit ironic that one of the resources mentioned was Iridium who has just filed Chapter 11. I don't believe that Amateur Radio has lost its uniqueness at all. We are still the only kids on the block that aren't doing this just to make money. In this world that makes us VERY unique! I would hate to think that it would ever come down to, "How much emergency communication can you afford?" The commercial establishments design their systems for daily use. During disasters they often become overloaded, that's where we come in. Sure, we're not the only game in town anymore, but we just have to keep reminding people that we're there when they need us. from IP address 207.19.134.101 |
UNIQUE ABILITIESbyI echo Robert's sentiments, and can attest that we DO have some inherently unique capabilities as Hams. Once the word gets out to the right people you might be surprised to know how often we are requested by local authorities. Our "technical capabilities" are our greatest asset. To date, I can speak of over a dozen separate instances over the past few years where Ham Radio operators were requested by the City and County Governments in Northeast Florida. This ranges from providing assistance in tracking down "stuck transmitters" to helping search for lost and missing persons. All of these events came about as a result of promoting our abilities to Communicate and/or provide Communications support. One of the more notable cases was a dead carrier on the primary VHF Fire/Rescue frequency in a NE Fl county. The presence of this signal had virtually shut down their Communications. To make matters worse, the source of the signal was so close to the Communications center that they were not immediately aware what was happening. All they knew was they could not receive on the frequency. The Division Chief of Communications contacted me and thus began a 2 hour "transmitter hunt" which eventually found a keyed mike on a volunteer firefighter's personally owned (parked) vehicle at a nearby paper mill. Since that time, our group has responded to similar requests ranging from Public Works to the Railroad, all because the word got out that "these people know how to track them down". Just another feather in the proverbial cap of Amateur Radio. from IP address 152.163.204.213 |
A Christmas Eve Tale of SuccessbyAs Emergency Coordinator and Red Cross Communications Officer for Jacksonville FL. (Duval County) back in 1990, we experienced a very rare ice storm in the north Florida area. The I-95 bridge over the St. Mary's River between the Florida and Georgia state line iced over and Christmas Eve travelers were stranded in the little town of St. Mary's on the Georgia side. By ham radio, we advised our ham contact in that county to lead these people to the Red Cross shelter designed for 60 people, larger than ever needed prior to this night. We wound up with over 800 people in that shelter before we could get the highway patrol to cut them off at a prior exit. How do you feed 800 people on Christmas Eve in a small town when everything is closed? Our Red Cross rep, Charlie Clements, WA4FBY who had lived there all his life, figured it out. He called a friend who operated the McDonald's at the Kings Bay Submarine Base in St. Mary's and casually ordered 800 hambergers, french fries and cokes. They agreed to handle the astonishing order. Only problem was the base was about 10 miles from the shelter near I-95. Nevertheless, daughtless 70 year old Charlie took it upon himself to get in his pick up truck and drive over the slippery ice to pick up the badly needed food. We talked with him by ham radio from Jacksonville all the way over and back to make sure he was safe and sure enough, he slipped off of the road a couple of times but managed a respectable recovery. Because of a devoted ham radio operator, 800 folks got Christmas Eve "dinner" that harsh, cold night which took some of the sting out of their disappointing trip to Florida. Charlie died of cancer last year but not before the Disaster Chairman of Red Cross and myself as the Communications Officer made a trip up to St. Mary's to make a belated award of a beautiful Red Cross plaque for his most outstanding service through the uniqueness of ham radio. If I were not such a lousy typist, I could tell you a dozen more unique stories generated during my 12 years as an Emergency Coordinator. The problem with ham radio today is that not enough of us stand up and shout out about the good and worthy things we do for the public. Maybe we should get Monica licensed. Then we might be able to get the press to pay some attention to us! Hi Hi. from IP address 205.188.192.48 |
Great feedback!byKeep those stories coming. These are great stories and are the kinds of stories I'd like to collect - about what ham radio is doing today (preferably within the past few years, since comm is changing so quickly now days). Ed, KF7VY from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
BegginerbyHi: I'm just a begginer in ham radio, but I am advanced in CB Radio. But my question is: How can I start using HAM RADIO. I know that I have to get the license first, but which will be best for me right now. I was thinking about TECHNICIAN. Also what kind of radio(specifications) would be best for now and future(that I can use most or all the frequencies), and what kind of antena(specifications) is good. Just tell me what should I buy, so it would work perfect. Thank you. from IP address 166.90.69.80 |
re: BeginnerbyMartin, First steps are to look into the material you need to learn to obtain your ham radio license. On the front page of this web site, there is a step-by-step guide to getting licensed, plus links to the HamTest.com web site, and two others, that also provide a great deal of information. I strongly recommend you start there. The Technician class license has become the standard entry level license into Amateur Radio. Indeed, I was just looking today at the license total for the State of Washington - we have about 12,200 Technician class licensees and about 9,900 General+Advanced+Extra class licenses. So there is no question that the Tech is the starting point (and often the ending point) for new ham radio enthusiasts. Further down the road, you'll want to decide on a radio. I wouldn't get too preoccupied with choosing a radio at this point. There are many excellent radios available (handheld, mobile, base operation). You may wish to give thought to what type of radio operating you wish to do - portable (handheld), or mostly mobile in a car (mobile type radio), or mostly operating from home, and then what you want to accomplish. Many handheld radios, when combined with a good external antenna on a car, make for decent mobile radios as well (its what I use in my truck, for example). These suggestions are assuming you want basic voice communications. But there are many things you could do in ham radio - packet radio/computer data links, long distance communications on 6 meters, or meteor scatter on 6 or 2 meter bands. Or maybe moonbounce or tropospheric ducting at UHF ... or even fast scan color television or satellite communications. Without knowing where your interests lead, its a little early to say what radios or antennas you'll want. Good luck, Ed, KF7VY from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Re: beginnerbyWhere did you find those stats on the number and class of licensed amateurs, please? Doug N8DRD from IP address 216.206.239.69 |
re: Location of current Amateur license statisticsbyYou can find current Amateur license statistics, accessible by state, at Joe Speroni'a web site at http://ah0a.org/AH0A.html Ed, KF7VY http://hamradio-online.com from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Why the SET is IrrelevantbyJerry Rogich, AA2T had some interesting feedback on my opinion column, which emailed to me. He gave me permission to post his comments here on the Forums. ------ cut here ------- 1. Marketing Ham Radio - best thing I saw was the CNet TV series covering 2M FM and it had the Kenwood TV rig on it. It was positioned as the ultimate geek thing to have (very left coast marketing oriented). I saw this 2 weeks ago, there might be still some info on www.tv.cnet.com. That's my cut at it too, should be marketed to "PC literate" folks through web and print ads with the radio mfgs and the league. I do notice also that the colleges don't have any info or references to it. I have 30 RF engineers in my building and none are hams, almost none know about it. But when I talk about anything under 1Ghz, they are bored by it. They want high freq, digital everything, Voice of IP, Bells and whistles etc. Of course they don't want to mess with a license either. I think it's very ominous that the FCC restructure doesn't mention us. We might be toast already. 2. SET - I think any emergency setup should be able to run from the most simple methods to the most complex. I did send your article around to some local folks who have alot more experience than I do and they said that the complex stuff like packet has fallen apart in real emergency situations, either the net is down or conjested. So unless the backbone is robust enough, training in the old methods is not so bad. I think the ideas you push are ok, although the tone was a bit overbearing. For the Red Cross, locally we have a good relationship with them, they know we are there, but are not called out for minor issues. We did run a test where all of the Red Cross chapters in Mass. where hooked up via 75M phone several months ago. No one here has not seen the official info on this, but nothing seems to have changed. Thanks Jerry Rogich AA2T from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Emergency CommunicationsbyThe real scary thing today, is the fact that we could have a very down and dirty incident where all normal communications is pretty much down and out. This is when Ham radio will shine. My fear, is that we have so many "plug and play" operators that don't have the indepth ability to make do if their equipment didn't survive the big electromagnetic pulse. How many of us can dig an old 807 and a rock or two and come up with a good CW signal? Something to think about! from IP address 12.17.138.11 |
"Why the SET is Irrelevant"by To conceptualize the SET or any other emergency capability of the Amateur Radio Service as "redundant" or "irrelevent" is to gut the ability of the Amateur Service in general to respond to any emergency, local, regional or national. Despite the quoted multiplicity of other communications assets (SMR, Cellular, trunked systems, etc) we none-the-less have already seen numerous occasssions where Mother Nature has wielded her fury and leveled our vaunted technology. Are the days of the noble telegrapher clicking away into the night gone, along with the acrid smell of spark-gap ozone...?? Of course. But any attempt to undermine the ability of the "everyman" communicator to be able to provide emergency communications of the most basic nature is foolhardy. The first question one would have to ask is how much does it cost to train these volunteers? The answer is "nothing", or very close to it. So there is nothing to be lost by continuing to train these volunteers. The second question is to ask what is to be gained? Perhaps nothing, but then again, what is the price of your life or your family's life? Perhaps a bit melodramatic, but the occassions where a lone Amateur Radio operator has literally saved the day numbers in the thousands. That's a very small price to pay for a very large dividend. One can argue that "more efficient" means of communication exist. That is a given. But in a true emergency, one may have to count on the least common denominator, and in thousands of situations over the decades, that common denominator has been a trained Amateur Radio Operator dutifully serving his/her community, often at risk to thier own safety. It cost's nothing. It can be the difference between communication and confusion in a disaster. Why then are we cutting our own throats over a misperception that "technology" will be the saviour? Mother Nature has proven time and time again that she has NO respect for anything manmade, and that includes fixed repeater sites, cellular towers, etc. The continued implementation of emergency preparedness in the Amateur Radio Service is a cheap bet to hedge. 73 de K4YZ Steve Robeson, LPN Chattanooga, TN from IP address 205.188.197.27 |
New Ham Radio Online FeaturesbyTo make this web site even more interesting and useful, I've added several new features: * Local weather forecasts for locations throughout the world are now available, * Stock quotes are available * A new "chatroom" feature has been added; this feature is provided by NetCenter54 and is in Beta test. I have already seen problems with using it, but hopefully this will get better soon. Please enjoy the web site and tell your friends about the best Amateur Radio web site available anywhere at http://hamradio-online.com 73, Ed, KF7VY from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Re: New Ham Radio Online Featuresby Hi Ed! Nice job with the new online features! I really like the new format for the discussion board, much nicer/easier to read. As always you do an excellent job with the site. Keep up the great work! I've had a link to your site from mine since I started my site over 2 years ago. 73! Tom Randall - KB2SMS from IP address 208.195.233.38 |
Marketing Amateur RadiobyLast month I wrote an opinion column about improvements to how we "market" amateur radio to the general public. To some extent, I'm now practicing what I preach - with a "Y2K" hook on the main web page and the introduction of three "Banner exchange" program "ads" that result in displaying the Ham Radio Online "ad" on other web site. What else can we do? What ideas do you have for not only publicizing Amateur Radio, but directly marketing and promoting Amateur Radio to the public. I will soon present some interesting population demographic charts (they may surprise you) that show you how our population is distributed across the age groups (its not a uniform distribution, by the way). Also, AH0A has put together some fascinating statistics on amateur licensing (our numbers have been decreasing recently). In a future column, I'll present this data - it may help us shape our future. I'd like to see comments posted here on the Marketing Amateur Radio column, and also my rather sharp words about the irrelevence of the Simulated Emergency Test conducted each fall. Thanks, Ed, KF7VY from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
re: Marketing Amateur RadiobyJerry Rogich, AA2T, sent me email with some comments on marketing ham radio. He gave me permission to post his comments here on the Forums ---- cut here ---- My son just got his tech license, and I see that it's not as exciting as Nintendo, or x-treme sports, or even to TV. I had to bug him to get his license to some extent, since there are not is other "buddies" on the air (vs. yahoo pager etc..). Kids can get a cell phone in high school now. I would recommend: 1. Like the old novice days, target low end rigs (hf,vhf) in kit and built form that includes SSB,FM not just qrp cw. Package them in interesting ways. What we really need is a good 100W hf kit rig for $250 w/ssb. Not sure any of the radio mfgs can afford to get there yet and also pay for tooling of the enclosure to make it attractive to kids. HT's are ok and getting in line with being affordable, but the kids don't want to talk to some old hams, they want their friends on there too . 2. Encourage kid groups to pass their test. Have the radio mfgs offer $$$ off coupons to a group of kids that all pass w/i 6 months of each other. Have the coupon be good for rigs that match the license they get. Tell the radio mfgs that even if they sell the rig at break even or loss, the kids will upgrade later in life and be a loyal customer. 3. Put ham radio ads in kids pubs and sell it with idea for use with repeaters for safety, camping, biking etc. Use some of the astronauts for backing, although I heard they will want some $$$ for this. Cost our company $5K to get Sally Ride to talk to us but some of the ham ones might be willing to volunteer for some ads. 4. Like you said, get some interesting PC connections into ham radio with packet, aprs etc.. Just some ideas.. JRogich from IP address 206.71.110.81 |
Sellin' it (or how not to)byI read Ed's comments in the opinion column with considerable interest, since they echo some of the same sentiments I've been having as of late concerning Amateur Radio. I'm very troubled by the state of the service, and there's some really obvious things wrong. However, a lot of the problem here really lies with a good number of the operators out there who insist...no, make that _demand_...that things remain so much the same in this that it has no appeal whatsoever to anyone who's just giving ham radio a cursory glance. Or worse, that things happen at their convenience, with changes in ham radio apparently being viewed as 'inconvenient' to them. As an example, a couple of weeks ago I, my personal assistant (who also holds his ticket as KB9UWX), and a techno producer friend of mine who was and is very keen on getting his tech license attended a hamfest just south of Chicago. Big event, too...lots of fleas in the market, several sizable dealers. And _no_ VE sessions. None. Zippo. At a big hamfest. Now...this, to me, says a lot. It says a lot that's _bad_, basically giving the finger to anyone who might've attended...like my friend...who had a keen interest in getting into the hobby. Reason given? Oh...supposedly the rationale was that only a few people had shown up for VE sessions in the past, and this was near Chicago so there's lots of VE sessions, blah blah [insert lame excuse here]. Folksies...if you're a VE, your are the _gateway_ for people in this field. You're the way in, and you're the way up. This is what you volunteered to do, and something that's supposed to be important to you in Amateur Radio. If just _one_ person wants to take that no-code tech...yeah, yeah, it's only _one_ of those losers who'll never pick up a J-38, I know whachoore thinkin'...you're supposed to be there, ready to go, with those #2 pencils in hand. At this point in time where the average age of hams is in their _sixties_ and the hobby is in a slow decline in numbers, you should definitely care enough to get more people into it. But that's not all, nosirrahh... No, another thing comes to mind. A recent club meeting, in this case. Now, here's something that is open to all area hams, people're encouraged to attend and get involved with the local community, hm? Well, how involved would _you_ want to get if much of the meeting involved itself with some old-timer squabbling over how the club's FD operations are to be run and rehashing 20+ year old politics that you don't give a rat's about? Yep, let's attract young fresh faces into Amateur Radio by having a bunch of people kvetch about crap from back during the Coolidge administration that was going on in the club. This is why I piled my cash into some expensive box of circuits? I somehow don't think so. This was really an egregious display of nothing attractive whatsoever, and if _I_ was the one suggesting to new ops to show up and check out the club, I'd feel embarassed as hell at how my hobby was representing itself. Or let's take the old-timers who insist on things in Amateur Radio staying as restrictive as possible. Nah, restructuring won't work if you run the code speed _down_...let's take 'em up to 35 WPM, just like those commercial circuits, right? Oh, wait...they don't run those anymore. Oops. Well, let's find a way to make things as difficult as possible for those codeless cockroaches, right? Don't let them onto the coveted real estate of HF! After all, that's the holy of holies of Amateur Radio, and must be protected by as restrictive a set of operating policies as possible! Why, I remember back during the days of Chester A. Arthur when we had to build our transceivers out of chewing gum foil and dirt...we...[insert snoring noise here]. Now...to the defense of some people in the field, there _are_ some very good older ops out there who're very much behind helping other, newer and younger people...as well as the service...go forward. They deserve big-up respects, and from me, they get 'em. My beef here, though, is those ops who, because of positions of supposed worth through concepts like 'seniority' and 'tradition', hold the Amateur Radio service and those entering its early-stage ranks _back_. I've watched this nonsense for my 12+ years in ham radio, and even seen it from the FCC itself back when they were adminning the tests themselves back in the 'good old days'...which is when I attempted my novice tests for the first couple of times. People doing this sort of disservice to Amateur Radio need to unplug their sets, sell or give them to someone who cares for the hobby, and quit being an impediment to progress and growth. Blunt, but very true. Selling ham radio is not hard. All you need to do is really show off what you can do to/with it. And yeah, that means not setting up some dull cut-n-dried affair. Getting back to that local club's FD effort...now, I'd been wanting to do a Field Day again for some time. It'd been a while since my last, back in the late 80s. But not with that club, nossirree. Instead, some of the hams who weren't down with the regimented and structured plan behind that FD effort were cooking up another one. Objective: not to get the biggest score, but to just work and _enjoy_ the event. And you can guess where I was that weekend. And it strikes me that what we present as Amateur Radio doesn't look enjoyable. It's always done up in a very poindexterish, science-fair-oid getup, the sort of thing cooked up by someone who probably got daily wedgies to in school. If there were a way to make what we were doing look like _actual fun_...imagine that, huh?...maybe other people would catch what we enjoy about the hobby. FD this year, with the Solar Flux at 200+, was fun...and to be honest, I wish we'd had our effort in some public place so people could've seen all of us really pushing to get those contacts in. But even though we didn't do that (we were using a nice electrically-quiet rural location that just happened to come complete with a couple of _miles_ of ground radials under it...pass _that_ up, if you can!), this doesn't mean that others shouldn't. Let people see what we do on the one day of the year where we really kick the bands open and show what we can accomplish, and do it with some zest to the effort. Also, use your local situations to your advantage. Around here, ham radio is used...not as much as it perhaps should be, but that's due to someone who...well, we went there, ok?...is used for tornado spotting. Pretty essential stuff 'round these parts. Well, sadly, not enough mention is made of the fact that that's done here. If it was, think that'd attract more people into the service? Bet! That's how and why my P.A. got his ticket, the day after I was listening to the local ESDA repeater and when I knew where the storm over the city was dropping funnels. He saw right away just what a useful thing Amateur Radio was, and from that inceptive point, he's also now getting into simplex DX on 2M (he probably got that from me) plus he's about to push that no-code tech, if he has his way, out on past tech-plus. He's bucking for advanced, actually. And this all in 2 months time. Point here being: if you show what ham radio means to your town, your people, that sort of impact...people _will_ connect up with what ham radio might mean for _them_. And that's what you're trying to 'sell'...what people can get out of this for themselves. Be that personal communication, simple enjoyment, or the various little thrills that one tends to uncover in various corners of the service. It can be done. It might take getting a few people to chill out and get out of the way...but it can be done. And it'll certainly take people actually working _for_ Amateur Radio, instead of trying to 'preserve' some archaic notion of what the service is 'supposed to be'. Times change. Technology changes. And most importantly, _people_ change. And if ham radio's going to be around as this goes on, it's got to change right along with that. In closing, I really want to hand it to Ed Mitchell for bringing up this...well, it's not a comfy topic with a lot of hams. But it's one that needs to be broached. I will note that I think the license restructuring is one right step in getting Amateur Radio on track again into this next century. But you can restructure the license tiers from now 'til hell freezes over, and it won't help a bit until the _people_ who make up Amateur Radio start looking at their own actions in the service, and whether they're helping...or hindering...what should be an important, vital, and above all enjoyable thing. This is not some Ivory Tower, peeps. And it's not supposed to be some ardurous chore, either. If you think otherwise, even inadvertantly, then find some other hobby to ruin. Nuff said! from IP address 206.148.209.156 |
Sellin' it (not Sellin' out)byEd's column on this subject appeared on the page previous to this, and we need to harp on this subject. Here in Central Texas where I live, there's Way more VHF guys that HF'ers, hands down. there's 2 reasons I see most often for this: 1)Morse is seen as obsolete so people don't even want to bother with it 2)who needs HF if you've got internet? A lot of what I hear is how much more fun it is to get sattelites than to mess with HF and for me, I'm just a Packeteer. A lot of people in the area are not club members, neither TARC (www.TARC.org) nor TCARC (www.vvm.com/~TCARC) there's feelings there that I won't touch on, but it's prevalent...people, it appears, don't want to mix their Ham Radio experience with politics (I'll leave Bill alone, this time). That, mixed with a lack of motivation on our part, is what is keeping newbies out, and us, for the most part, away from HF. I don't like the way things are any better than the next guy, I think demonstrations ought to center more on emergency and packet commo, as well as satellite...these are the things that will "sell" us the best, as will APRS. I'm not terribly motivated to get on HF, I have 6M available, and to me, I think the system needs a serious facelift, and the elmers (some, those with attitude problems) need to get kicked in the butt. 73 de Jim KD5FUL from IP address 206.97.170.121 |
Help to form a clubby any one who can teel me how to write a charter for a ham club PLEASE CONTACT ME! If you have a copy of a club charter or can get one for me to use as a GUIDELINE ONLY contact me at my E-Mail address KA5KON@KRICKET.NET Sincerly, Lufroi P. Aymond/KA5KON from IP address 208.161.196.18 |
THE CLOSED REPEATER ISSUEbyTHE CLOSED REPEATER ISSUE The Proliferation of Private Repeaters that are Totally Closed are cause for concern! The issue here is not closed DVR's or Autopatches....The issue being addressed is Closed Systems who "Exclude" some amateurs for "Arbitrary" reasons....This Discrimination is nothing less than legal seizure of Public property "Our Frequencies" In this land we are blessed with many repeaters to choose from,the owners of these machines have spent many hours and have also invested money maintaining these repeaters that we all use from time to time. Most of these Repeaters are Open and their owners understand that while they have foot the bill for the equipment, said equipment also resides on Amateur Frequencies and allowing Open use of these repeaters seem to be a fair exchange. Addressing the Closed Repeater Issue is not something I enjoy doing...It is something that I feel that I must do. As a past Repeater owner,I myself was once heard to say on the air "Nobody Rides For Free" Requiring folks to contribute for access to the DVR and Autopatch is fair but to deny access do to Race-Color-Personality or *Other* Selection is not only a travesty,it is Proof that Discrimination is alive and well in Amateur radio! Many have said this discrimination is legal and it is but that is the problem here. The FCC in it's lack of wisdom went Too Far with this rule and granted far too much power to the repeater owner...in effect,the owner may legally discriminate against any amateur who attempts to use the repeater and this is not in the Spirit of the Amateur Service. America has eliminated Discrimination from it's borders but Discrimination has found a Legal home in the Amateur Radio Service. You can stop this Proliferation of closed repeaters by contacting the FCC or the ARRL and let them know of your concern. I have never been excluded from a repeater but I have friends who have. In each case the Operator had requested use of the machine and in each case,they were refused. Now we are not talking about some kind of special service repeater...this was just a private machine. If this practice goes unchecked....you may find yourself hunting for an open machine as you travel the roads of this great country. Remember,just because something is Legal does not make it right or just...many examples of Bad Legislation can be found in our system...An owner should have control over his equipment but he should never forget *where* his equipment resides,it resides on *our* frequencies!..Today *another* Family only Repeater will go on the air,if you have the same last name as the owner,He will let you use his equipment and he *may* even let you use the the frequency his repeater uses. This is just too much power for the owner to have...Let your voice be heard,together...we can make this Discrimination a bad memory and stop the seizure of our frequencies by Private Repeater Owners. Charles A. LeMarbre W8VOM from IP address 209.172.1.109 |
RE: Closed Repeaters - "property rights"byHello Charles, On this matter you are way off base ! The fundamentals behind a closed repeater system have nothing to do with the FCC or public frequencies, it has everything to do with property rights and the law. The basis for the "closed repeater" is a question of property rights of the owner and his right to say who has permission to use his property. The mere fact that the property uses public frequencies is incidental. It is not the frequencies that are being denied use of. To give a good comparative example: The automobile that you purchase is private property, yet it uses public property (roadways) during its normal use. You, as the "owner" of the private property, have the right to say who can use your automobile. You have certain legal responsibilities while someone else is using your private property, even if you are not present !! The same holds true for radio operations, no matter if it is a repeater, your station at home, or your mobile/portable equipmennt. If someone else uses your radio equipment improperly, you can and may be held liable, just like the automobile. This is the "objective legal standard" upon which the FCC had to base their findings. The fact that the radio system is private does not interfere with you using the same frequencies. As a matter of practicality, however, and the laws of physics, no two objects can occupy the same space at the same time, this also holds true for radio signals, as well as, automobiles. The operational nature of the radio repeater system "DOES" functionally preclude other uses of a particular frequency pair within a given "service area." BUT, it does not preclude other systems from being on the same frequency pair for another "service area." Nor is it precluding you from using other frequencies on the operational band. The real issue here is in the form of a question : What is it about the "private" repeater that bothers you ??? If all of the frequency pairs were use up by private repeaters in your area and you were unable to reach an open repeater, then you would have the basis for a legitimate complaint. However, if there are several open repeaters within your reach, then there is no basis for a legal complaint, but one, merely, of a philosophical nature. This also does not address the fact that there are the simplex frequencies. To put it another way, there are many examples of where a private concern (companies or otherwise) has control and use of public property that precludes your being able to either use it or where you have to pay to gain access. An example is where a private company operates a "pay for use" parking lot (we have these in California) on public property. The public entity is, of course, the government (city, county, federal, etc.). Another example is a municipal government putting parking meters at the curb on your public street. Both examples preclude you from using the space unless you pay. A more germane example would be would be the comuter lanes that are used in California. Here an entire lane on a freeway is marked off limits unless there are two or more people in the automobile. The number of cars that use this lane is very small compared to all of the cars on the freeway in a given area. While it helps those few that have more than one person in the car, it causes less lanes to be available for the general public and actually creates more congestion on the freeway. I hope this helps give you a different point of view. 73's....Bill......WB6BNQ from IP address 207.104.100.186 |
Closed Repeaters Exposed!byTo. Bill-WB6BNQ The argument that Closed Repeaters are justified because all may use the input or output is not only old,it is offensive to all Thinking Ham's. In most cases,to use the input or output of a closed repeater not in use,would be an act of WAR in any area of the country and you know it...my article deals with the proliferation of closed repeaters and the arbitrary way they can legaly exclude *others* not only from their equipment but also may exclude people from their *own* frequency and that is WRONG and should be changed. Closed Repeater owners DO NOT WANT change...they like this power that they have and owe it all to the FCC's lack of attention to the fact that this power could and IS being abused in this country. For the sake of argument..lets say you Owned a Closed Repeater....You could stop Gay's from using it and You would be doing nothing illegal and THAT is the problem here. Amateur Radio is the Last safe harbor for the *few* who choose to Discriminate...discrimination is illegal yet it is used every day by Closed Repeaters who in effect,deprive other hams who do not measure up to the owners standards. Now if this was just your car on a public highway,I would say that you did not have to pickup every hitchhiker but that is mixing apples with oranges..they are both fruit but not at all the same...we are now talking about some unwanted Cars having to make a U Turn when they get to YOUR street and you Love it. I too have tasted Power but decided to share it with all my brothers and sisters,My repeater was an OPEN machine and ALL licensed amateurs were and still are WELCOME no matter their Color-Creed-Sexual Preference ext. We amateurs prize our freedom but if we want freedom,we must also grant it to all who obey the law and not exclude them for bigoted reasons. Closed Repeaters are owned by Owners with Closed Minds. Respectfully....Charles A. LeMarbre....W8VOM ALL THAT IS NEEDED FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL IS FOR GOOD HAMS TO DO NOTHING..VOM from IP address 153.34.15.175 |
THE CLOSED REPEATER ISSUEbyI've had the unfortunate experience of accessing a few of these machines during my travels while stationed around the USA with the USAF. I've also endured the rude comments from their owners. All I can say is that you have my vote to remove private repeaters from the airwaves. If they need private access, then apply for a commercial licensed system. If this infuriates the people involved enough to throw in the towel. All I can say is so much the better for Ham Radio. <Alan> from IP address 209.86.6.207 |
Help about Wanna Tinker W6BKYbyHello. J a looking about shematic of the product detector and BF modules of the description of W6BKY . J have all others parts. Many Thanks from France and good Qrp ! Joseph MARTIN F5HPU@aol.com from IP address 171.208.130.201 |
Wanna Tinker Product DetectorbyJoseph, Complete details for the product detector appeared in March, 1999 Wanna Tinker. If you are having trouble finding a specific part, or parts, let me know and I can suggest substitute parts and/or an alternative circuit. Good Luck. 73, Dick, W6BKY from IP address 152.163.207.48 |
unknown type antenna, some one tell mebySaw this antenna: Looks like you took an unbrella , opened up and stuck it in the grnd upside dwn, take off the covering. Center section is support mast 30 ft high. Start at botton and wind wire the circumfrance. Connect each row (every 2ft next row) to the top. Looks like some one's idea of a circular log periodic. What is it and what freq's does it work and how about gain. from IP address 158.252.65.214 |
Unknown AntennabyIt sounds like a continuously loaded antenna with a capacitive top hat. The top hat consisting of the umbrella like section provides additional capacitance to ground. The linear loading up the length of the antenna in combination causes the antenna to have a much lower resonance than by uning either feature by itself. The Department of Energy has an emergency station on 530 Khz at Hanford Washington that uses this type of an antenna. Across the Columbia River from the above mentioned station is an FAA beacon that uses the same antenna configuration, operating on 260 Khz along with the 75 Mhz outer marker. Hold on to this antenna should the Ham's ever get a below the broadcast band allocation. It could come in handy if it is what I think it is. from IP address 206.61.209.189 |
LF umbrellabyHaving studied a similar antenna some years ago, I recall that it is used for low frequencies. In other words, it resonates at a much lower frequency than you would guess by it's size. And it's impedance is ultra-low...around .01 ohm. Those connections raise the impedance of the feed by n squared. The simple notes I made show 70 such connections squared, times .01 for a 49 ohm antenna impedance. At 12 khz, this antenna is 500 feet tall...quite small with respect to wavelength. Every ham learns to make this calculation. The quarter wavelength at 12 khz is around 4 miles. That should tell you how 'small' this antenna is. This is the only clue my notes give me on how to build it. A pair of these compact wonders in or out of phase with the appropriate spacing could be very effective at hf and vhf. If you built it for 20m each one would be about 5 inches tall. It's a thought! But please check my calculations. It is due to this microscopic size that I suggest a pair or more: To open the aperture. Now you 160m enthusiasts will want to consider this antenna where it would be a whopping 3.3 feet tall! Wouldn't it? from IP address 209.156.87.177 |
kenwood 430sbyI am looking for a owners manual for a kenwood 430S If you can help please contact me at my email address. thank you in advance. tom KA2SKD from IP address 208.199.21.56 |
430byI have a shop manual if you want to pay copying and shipping from IP address 63.192.99.2 |
New technician needs advice on equipment to buybyJust passed my technician tests, and I need advice on equipment options for someone on a low budget. BACKGROUND My interests focus on general phone conversations with people nearby and DXing. I live in a house in a small town located in central Illinois, and several repeaters are nearby. I don't have a strong interest on the data side, right now. And I'm still working on my morse code. A hamfest will be approaching in mid-September I can go to. What can I look for? Thanks, John. from IP address 208.134.208.193 |
What NOT to buyby Scott C.I just passed my test in May and purchased a Yaesu FT-2600 2 meter mobile. I have had nothing but problems with this rig and have just requested a refund from Yaesu. I have seen other messages referencing problems with this unit. Beware of this model! from IP address 129.37.213.234 |
Many do not buy radiosbyMany of the newer radios being manufactured today have features piled on features with the micro processor control now available. The radio manufacturers are having the same problem the oscilloscope manufacturers stumbled onto a few years back. It is possible to incorporate many features in the product, so many in fact that making operator access to them has become a problem. There simply isn't enough front panel space to incorporate all the controls needed. The net result is that we see many two or three stroke commands to make the radio perform a particular function. While this may be a solution to one problem, it creates another problem. It is now necessary to always have the operations manual along because there is no way that a normal person can remember all the possible command combinations. Push this button after holding that one in first and toggle through this and that and maybe if you didn't make a mistake several steps back the radio will respond as you wanted it to. The cryptic command structure using pre set, or limited LCD displays has got to come to an end. The manufacturers have got to start using dot matrix displays that can display a menu of commands in a logical order. The present method reminds me of how we had to boot the early computers up using a series of toggle switches in different binary combinations before the computer could even read a normal keyboard. That is how far behind the times the manufacturers are today. I do not know about the particular radio you bought, but I will bet that it also had some of these operational problems because of a limited control procedure. I bought one of those credit card sized radios and presetting memory channels usually results in deleating already preset chanels because of the illogical control process. from IP address 206.61.209.252 |
What I would look for.byJohn, I've had my license just over a year, but have only had a rig for a few months, a VX-1R dual band HT. I enjoy my radio as it not only covers the 2M & 70cm ham bands but it also has extended receive, everything from AM broadcast to 999Mhz. However as I'm on a budget too, and if I were buying my first radio today I think I would go with a mobile rig, instead of an HT. That way if you feel like you want to get involved with something like emergency comms (RACES, SKYWARN ect)you'll have the pwr. Just a thought, like I said I enjoy my HT but if you go with one, you might want to build a brick amp to get your signal out there. Right now I'm building the one thats in both the '97 & '99 Handbook. Tom from IP address 208.233.12.99 |
Stuff to get and/or drool over.byI've dealt with this question before. I've had to deal with it myself, in fact. And here's what comes to mind... Since you're working with your code, it's clear you're shooting to upgrade to something that'll give you HF access. Suggestion #1 is to look into something you will be able to use for novice CW _at first_, then later on when you upgrade to general (or when the license restructuring happens, take your pick), you can go on to HF phone with the same unit. There's a lot of good used rigs out there that can fill the bill on this, but every time I find myself suggesting to newer hams that they look into one of the older rigs, something from circa 1961-75 or so, such as those made by Swan, Drake, Hallicrafters, National, et al. Why? Why not one of those new ultra-squiffy sets with every feature known to God and man built in? Well, simple...one useful thing in amateur radio, in fact one thing that's being _forgotten_, is how to get inside your own set, know how it works, how to maintain it, what to do if it breaks, and so forth. Ever look inside a ricebox radio? Most times if one of these goes on the fritz, what do we do? That's right...we send it to the factory or to a factory service rep because the little bugger's so complicated that figuring out everything is way above a lot of ops out there, to say nothing of a beginning operator. But on these old so-called 'boatanchors', everything's right there. You can look at the schematic, look in the set, and it all pretty much makes sense. And this is a great way to _learn radio_...not just learn how to turn the knobs on it and work it. I just advised a friend of mine who's a beginning tech op nearby to get a Swan 350, which was in great shape and came with the PS/speaker. And since he got it, he's been familiarizing himself with it, what everything inside is, how it _really_ works, and a local elmer has been helping him with ease in getting it ready for him passing his tech-plus so he can hit HF for the first time with it. By the time he's had that set a year, he'll know it...and the theory and operation behind it...cold. What else to get? A good transmatch. Do not trust yourself as a perfect antenna builder, trust your transmatch. I recommend high tweakability, which these days is well-represented by the MFJ 969, with its roller inductor and wide feed handling capability. You could load out a case of empty coke cans with this. And you can certainly load out what would be a rather unforgiving dipole that's been cut wrong and strung out in sort of an inopportune manner. Just make sure that if you wind up with something that can blow half a KW (some of those old tube xceivers can, you know), that you get a transmatch that won't blow _up_ when you feed that sort of power to it. More things? Hmmm...ARRL Handbook, natch. ARRL Antenna Book, also. Lots of ideas in both. A _good key_...one that feels right. Take your time on this one, and find what feels really comfy and makes you feel confident with your sending skills with it in hand. Dummy load, too. Get an overrated one...if you plan to run 250 watts, get one that can handle way over that. Wide tolerances are a good thing here. TVI filtering is a good idea. And above all, something to deal with the fine Midwestern inevitability of _lightning_...because the last thing you want to do is pile all of your cash into something like this and then have Mother Nature reduce it to a pile of smoking chassis parts, cinders, and garbage with one good lightning stroke. This applies to anything you stick outside; you'd be surprised what that stuff'll run in on. And the best thing to get? A good comfy chair. No lie. If you get a good shack going, the last thing you want is to be spending your quality ham time sitting in something that seems to have been designed by De Torquemada. Having the right chair, also, can help with your CW sending by giving you a better posture and position for this. Would I kid you? from IP address 206.148.209.156 |
How low is Low?byI guess the question is how low budget do you need to go? I've seen some pretty good prices on the Icom 706's lately both used and closeouts. While not real low budget it is one rig that just about does all. from IP address 169.152.230.140 |
How Far?byAll right, I'd like to know('cause I'm new in this) how far can I hear or talk with somebody using "HAM RADIO". Because what I heard that you can communicate with others over 200 miles. Is that true? If so, what kind of radio should I use to do it, and how many watts??? from IP address 209.244.65.211 |
Amateur RadiobyMartin- I'm a new Ham but I'll try to give you an idea of what different amateur radios can do for you. 1. UHF/VHF. These are referred to as 70 cm (~440 mHz) and 2 meter (~144 mHz). Typically, these units come in handheld and mobile configurations. These are similar in characteristics to police/fire/ambulance radios. The range is around 1 mile for every watt output (depending on several conditions). However, high powered repeater towers usually give you about 60-100 miles of good range with these units. 2. HF. This is the type of radio that people think of when they hear "ham radio". 6 meters and above (~50 mHz and lower frequency) start to exhibit characteristics that allow the signal to travel farther than "line of sight". To do this, they bounce off the ionosphere several times, sometimes even getting to the other side of the world. However, this type of ham radio operation can require high power and a large antenna. I would explore this site (www.hamradio-online.com) and www.arrl.org for more information about the world of amateur radio. Hope I could help! Keith KC0FBW from IP address 208.29.88.246 |
How far is far?byHow about bouncing a signal off the moon to communicate with someone on the other side of the earth. Thats almost a half a million miles or so. Granted a beginning amatuer might not be up to doing it at first, but it has been done on a regular basis. Any 100 watt Hi Frequency Single Side Band station (1.8 to 29.7 Mhz) ought to be able to communicate a distance of 200 miles or more with a simple dipole antenna on most any H.F. Band. VHF, 50 Mhz and up is usually considered a line of sight operation. Occasionally band conditions commonly refered to as "skip" will extend that range to thousands of miles for a while using relativly low power. C.B.ers do it all the time with 5 watt A.M. transmitters. Thats how they learn to sound like everybody else on the band. The higher in frequency you go the more difficult it is to achieve extended ranges beyond line of sight, but it is not impossible. Incidently, "line of Sight" is a relative term. Last Field Day our station which was located in North Eastern Oregon, was able to communicate on Six Meters Single Sideband with other stations in Tillamook Oregon right on the Pacific Coast, stations in the Portland Oregon and Seattle Washington areas as well as with a station in Boise Idaho. None of these locations was truely line of sight in the normal sense. The band conditions on six meters at the time was plain old ordanary ground wave with no skip conditions existing at the time. So the "line of sight" term is not always accurate all of the time as reflections from mountain tops and other things such as tropospheric ducting has to be taken into effect. On the H.F. Bands there is a daily change in propagation conditions related to the day/night cycle. Higher frequencies work better in the day time and lower frequencies work better at night as far as extended range. In between frequencies seem to work fairly well under both conditions at around 10 Mhz or so. So buy almost any of the 100 watt H.F. SSB transceivers on the market and put up a multi band dipole or verticle antenna and go for it. from IP address 206.61.209.252 |
How far?byWell, lessee...so you wanna talk _far_, hm? My guess is that if you're just getting started, you've gotten a VHF or UHF radio of some sort, possibly an HT or mobile. Which is about all I have been using for the past ten years or so, since for much of that I've been off HF due to space problems for putting up an antenna. In fact, I use what some would consider to be an 'archaic' HT, an Icom IC-2AT, with only 2 watts out, no PL tone, and flipswitches and thumbwheels for tuning and control. Primitive, right? Well, maybe. As of late, I've been taking said IC-2AT out to a nearby ridge with a portable 5-element yagi cobbled up out of junk, welding rods, and various pieces of crap...and doing some very nifty tropo DX work with it. On 2 watts, no less. With this HT and homebrew yagi at about 15 feet, I've worked stations in Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois (which is where I am, in Champaign), Indiana, Missouri, and Kentucky on tropo DX openings. Others in the area both on 2 meters and 440 MHz have done even better, with one op in Mattoon (granted, on a base rig with a real beam) working an op in New York state on 440 in a particularly wild opening we had a few weeks back. Most people say you really only can use these bands for line-of-sight and repeater work...but that's obviously not the case, given the right conditions. Not far enough? OK...then try 6 meters. During the peak of the sunspot cycle (which is coming up), conditions can persist on this band that allow for DX over several _thousand_ miles. There was a recent report of one op in SD who worked several stations in _Japan_ on 6. And even if the 'spots aren't happening, there's random sporadic-E openings, more tropo DX, and so on to keep you amused. And yes, you can work this band with just a no-code tech license. Best results on here tend to happen if you're running single sideband mode (also on other, higher bands, too...2M is good for this) or CW. OK, so that's not enough. So point the antenna _up_ somehow and go for satellite operation, with all of its wild complexity and fidgetery. In these cases, your DX depends on who can see the 'bird'. Say you pick it up at one end of the horizon, and someone picks it up at the opposite end of their horizon. Well, that's about as far as you can go...from one side of the globe to the other, if you're on one of the higher-flying satellites. For really nutzoid space-based work, though, there's also moonbounce...big antennas, big power, very esoteric operation modes, and so on. Oh...and this _still_ all comes under that no-code tech license. Yeah. Naturally, the next step out of this is to take the time to play with a certain old-sk00l concept known as 'CW', and learn that to a proper speed for fruitful HF work. And depending on conditions, band openings, time of year, power, takeoff angles, shrunken voodoo heads, etc etc blah, one can also work distances that span to the opposite side of the globe. So...how far you wanna go? How much you wanna put into getting there is the answer! :) from IP address 206.148.209.156 |
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