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tubesbyI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO NETURALIZE TWO OR ALL THREE TUBES IN A 101EE HF TRANSMITTER.I AM NOT A GOOD TECH ,SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN I LAYMEN WHAT I NEED TO DO THANKS.... from IP address 139.76.64.8 |
RadiobyI have a Realistic DX-302 Quartz-Synthesized Communications Receiver, that was given to me several years ago. I really have no use for it and was lokking to sell it. Does anyone know what it might be worth? It appears to be in good condition...Thanks John from IP address 208.166.24.15 |
What's wrong with using Citizen Band Radios or Cell phones to save somebodys life?by LWLongbowWow!!! there are a lot of sick people there. I guess the (Hams) are the only ones that can or should save lives, so they can get report on it in the next Amateur Radio Newsline report, or the life don't get saved. Seven Three LWLongbow. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio P.S Let's face it many of the new Cell Phones come complete with Citizen Band installed. from IP address 216.67.26.123 |
Newsline in Audio (Download)by LWLongbowDon't forget you have to (Download) Newslines reports now, if you want to listen to Newsline in audio. Remember when you download Newsline it will be stored on your disk drive. When downloading anything from the net make sure you have virus check software installed on your computer and running. Newsline says they are looking for someone to do their (encodeing). Well that's the way it is. So Longbow (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio Seven Three LWLongbow from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
"CW" IS A MONUMENTAL WASTE OF TIME.by LWLongbowTIME IS PRECIOUS AND WE DON'T NEED YOUNG PEOPLE SITTING AROUND WASTING TIME IN SOME RADIO SHACK TALKING ABOUT THE PASS WITH DIT'S DAR'S AND TRYING TO CHASE SOME AMATEUR RADIO CONTEST. NO-CODE KEY IS GOING TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEMS THAT WE WILL FACE IN THE FUTURE, THAT IS FOR SURE. SO LONG (CW) FAREWELL AMATEUR RADIO SEVEN THREE LWLongbow P.S WAKE UP! OUT THERE, WE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, or 60s ANYMORE, (GET RID OF THAT OLD CODE) ANYWAY BY THE YEAR 2010, HAM RADIO WILL BE NOTHING MORE THAN A DISTANT MEMORY. from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
CW...byWaste of time..no way.. I'm a ham for 4 years and I'm 22 yrs old now. First I think the same way..like CW is waste of time..useless..in this communication century.. But.. When I first bought my hf rig I just had a 15 amp pwr supply. And it was not enough for SSB mode.Just CW that was all I could do. So I understood the importance of it. from IP address 212.174.128.130 |
Good for youby CWLWLongbowEnjoy it! from IP address 216.67.25.152 |
CWby TXpenguinI don't think CW is going to cause the death of ham radio. No question it should not be a requirement for obtaining an amateur radio license. The problem is that hams are letting technology outrun them in all areas of wireless communications. Young people are used to downloading huge files and mind-boggling graphics via the internet. Amateur RTTY, packet and TOR modes by comparison are pretty quaint. SSB has been around since the forties. Blaming the declining numbers of hams on CW only is shortsighted. CW ought to stay for those who want to use it. Lots of DXers in Europe and Asia prefer it, and it definitely useful for rapid-fire contest exchanges and leisurely ragchewing. Ham radio can remain around for a long time because it still has a lot of appeal in the areas of public service, and as a introduction to radio for aspiring electronic engineers and technicians. Restructuring the amateur service to deemphasize Morse code as a licensing will be a good first step. Modernizing the rest of the hobby will be difficult but attainable. from IP address 152.163.213.66 |
Good....whats new?by LWLongbowCW? I don't so. from IP address 216.67.26.203 |
Attitudes and Anarchy, Community and ServicebyEd, I just read a post in the forum in which you discuss the "attitude problems" within the amateur community. Like I've said in the past, I think you are on target with your analysis and opinions. I'd like to share my thoughts as they relate to an experience I had that I believe indicates the core problems facing the amateur radio service today. ========================= There seem to be two schools of thought on how to save amateur radio, those who advocate increased use of better technology, and those who think that we need to increase membership in the amateur service. Poppycock. Hogwash. And a few other choice expletives. Some say that amateur radio is becoming obsolete because we cling to outdated modes. Others say that newer, cheaper, more efficient means of communications exist that are rendering radio itself obsolete as a medium for personal communications. If we allow this issue to become framed in terms of technology, then we are already lost. We will NEVER be able to compete with the deep pockets of the telecommunications industry, but that has been the case for the last 50 years, nothing new here! That was never our purpose! Amateur radio was never intended to be THE MOST ADVANCED communications service, it was intended to provide a useful public service. Those who think the problem can be solved by increasing our numbers are short-sighted. True, a few hundred thousand more hams would result in a few tens of thousands of ARRL members, and increase the lobbying effort to protect spectrum, but let's face it, the Amateur Service was never INTENDED to be a communications medium for the masses. It boils down to two main issues, and both involve the PEOPLE, not the TECHNOLOGY: #1) We absolutely MUST re-establish a sense of "community" within the amateur service. #2) We must also put SERVICE back in the amateur service. First, the sense of community: Many hams today lack a sense of being "connected" to a larger whole. Those who have these bad attitudes do not appreciate the damage done to other hams and the amateur service. My club will likely lose its most important annual service project because of one SINGLE ham. (More on this in a minute.) If I believed this to be an isolated event it would bother me a lot less, but I don't think it is. Read the newsgroups, this forum, listen to 80 meters, or wherever, and you'll find a plethora of example of how we have lost respect for each other and ourselves. We will not solve our problems if we cannot discuss them openly, intelligently, and with an attitude of mutual respect, ESPECIALLY where there are differences of opinion. That means that we should be POLITE and RESPECTFUL to each other when discussing things like license restructuring. The term "ourselves" exempts nobody. Those of us who operate our stations using "best practices" are part of the problem - by allowing things to degenerate to this point. To fix this problem then we must recognize that the actions of every licensed ham affect every other ham, even if only a tiny bit. If we become labelled as a bunch of rude, selfish, self-important, frequency hogging idiots, it is because WE ALL allowed it to degenerate to that level. It's not about CB'ers this, or "appliance operators" that. It's not about membership in the ARRL or any other group. Each one of us MUST promote best practices in all modes, on all bands, at ALL license levels. We must also guard the amateur service from those who don't. I don't care if that individual is a brand-new no-code Tech, or if they hold a braggin' rights 1x2 call with 50 years in the game; you're either part of the solution, or part of the problem. On re-emphasizing SERVICE: If you read FCC§97.1, you will notice that service is heavily emphasized. Amateur radio is intended as a SERVICE, not a HOBBY. I think many of us have forgotten this. In §§(a), you will read that one of the purposes of the reg is to recognize the "...value of the amateur service to the public...particularly with respect to providing emergency communications. I'll also put §§(b) here: "Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art." There is our "reason for being" - public service. Public service can take place directly, by providing assistance in time of crisis, or indirectly, by adding to the base of knowlege and understanding of the technology. Most of us will never contribute materially to this second service, but there are (even still) those who use amateur spectrum as an R&D medium. Back to the problem at my club's public service event. The event is an annual Christmas parade held in my community. Historically, my club has been the exclusive provider of radio communications services to the group that sponsors the parade. Largely due to one rude ham, the parade sponsors looked for viable alternatives - and found one. They borrowed radios from our city government, part of an 800 MHz trunked system. I served as the NCS for the amateur radio net. I can tell you that our system using 2 meters worked better (because of our training) but was less useful, because the parade committee rarely used the operators that were provided to them. In closing I leave you with this parting thought: If the amateur radio service does truly die at some point in the future, it will not be because our radios are old, or our numbers are down. If the amateur service dies, it will be because those who control spectrum have concluded that the Amateur Service is no longer providing meaningful public service. And that has a lot more to do with the operator behind the radio than the radio itself. from IP address 209.208.31.210 |
Excellent commentsbyBrian, Excellent comments. When I talk about "innovations" I too mean across a "broad spectrum" in terms of how we do everything, spanning a range of activities from training and recruiting to public service communications up to and including technology too. As a volunteer, I am a regional manager of disaster communications services for a well known disaster relief agency. Recently, my manager within this organization approached me noting that ARES/RACES sure seems to harbor a lot of grudges going way back. I'd never talked to him about this - he picked it up on his own from the emails and contacts he has. He's referring to a bizarre situation where our state is essentially divided in two and the ARES/RACES teams on each side of the state seem to always be in disagreement and at each other's throats. Its completely disfunctional. I've been copied on some "hate mails" between the parties. I don't intend to get involved in the emotional baggage that is getting carried around by various personalities within these groups - however, the end result could well be less demand for ARES/RACES services. We must clean up our act. As I noted elsewhere, I think the problem is a lack of vision for Amateur Radio as a whole. Without a commonly held vision of why or what Amateur Radio is all about anymore, we fall into anarchy. I strongly support the idea that the only reason we exist is to serve the public. And from that requirement we derive a vision for Amateur Radio in our new world awash in communications options. I think this view echoes your sense of "community" concept. I think your comments are excellent. Ed, KF7VY (Please note - my ISP's email system is broken and I cannot access any email since 6am PST on Saturday - in order to fix it, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up deleting all of the email that's come in since then - but I won't know 'til I talk to them on Monday.) from IP address 204.227.186.28 |
ARES and RACES...byBoy, you opened up a whole new can of worms just by putting those two in the same sentence! I think the whole subject of emergency communications is one that will continue to divide opinion among amateurs for a long time to come. I'm going to put this carefully, because I am the training officer for a county level emergency communications organization that uses one of those two acronyms. I have strong opinions on this topic, so I'll have to bite my tongue to keep that from poisoning this message. I don't view divided opinion as a bad thing, thoughtful (if heated) debate is a valid way to test ideas. Untested ideas rarely retain consensus. If the debate is centered on how to best accomplish the emergency communications mission, then the debate is healthy. Unfortunately, the debate(s) with respect to emergency communications are often centered on the wrong topics, and are usually little more than power struggles between two "competing" organizations. Even more shameful is the fact that the power struggles prevent either organiztion from necessary re-consideration of doctrine, mission, or plan, even when the two organiztions have COMPLETELY different paradigms. Many of the "nuts and bolts" amateur radio emergency communications plans I've looked at remind me of my studies of U.S. military history and military planning in the Korean War (or the French Maginot Line between the world wars). In other words, "planning for the last war". Open and honest examination of ALL ideas is the only way to correct this kind of mentality. Quite frankly, I wish there were MORE open debate on emergency communications. I think the whole thing needs to be re-examined. One state's solution: Burn them both to the ground and build a new organization that meets the need (California's ACS). Oooh, boy...I can feel myself reaching for my soapbox... of course, it would be at least a LITTLE bit of a break from the CW holy wars! 73, -Brian from IP address 209.208.30.48 |
ARES & RACESbyBrian, Please forgive my ignorance on this issue. I don't want to stir anything up, but would you line out what the difference is between ARES and RACES, please. Not being involved in either, I honestly don't know the difference. :-) 73 KC5ADF Bill Allen from IP address 208.193.185.73 |
ARES vs RACESbyARES (Am. Radio Emerg. Service) is when a group of hams get together to provide communications support typically to a community event. ARES is an umbrella term coined by the ARRL. RACES (Radio Am. Civil Emerg. Service) is when a government requests Amateur Radio communications support. As such, when operating at the request of government, we operate under the RACES rules - which are codified in Part 97. It is permissible to engage in some activities as RACES (government requested) services that may not be allowable under normal Part 97 day-to-day operation. Generally, the the ARES group is the same group that does RACES. Take off the ARES hat and put on the RACES hat. But its not always the case. The most important difference is that RACES is under the direction of a government, ARES is not. Examples of "government" (meaning RACES) include operating the request of the local police chief, the sheriff, the fire department, the weather service, the U.S. military. The local bike club asks for comm help for a public event on a public roadway - its ARES. The local running club hosts a 10k run downtown and asks your help in providing for public safety. Its ARES. Read Part 97. Its available online, completely indexed, at http://hamradio-online/library/part97.html Paragraph (4), however, makes most RACES training sessions illegal. This is DUMB DUMB DUMB. The ARRL recently requested that this restriction be lifted but the FCC, this past week, rejected the petition. Text of RACES rules follows: S 97.407 Radio amateur civil emergency service. (a) No station may transmit in RACES unless it is an FCC-licensed primary, club, or military recreation station and it is certified by a civil defense organization as registered with that organization, or it is an FCC-licensed RACES station. No person may be the control operator of a RACES station, or may be the control operator of an amateur station transmitting in RACES unless that person holds a FCC-issued amateur operator license and is certified by a civil defense organization as enrolled in that organization. (b) The frequency bands and segments and emissions authorized to the control operator are available to stations transmitting communications in RACES on a shared basis with the amateur service. In the event of an emergency which necessitates the invoking of the President's War Emergency Powers under the provisions of S 706 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. S 606, RACES stations and amateur stations participating in RACES may only transmit on the following frequencies: (1) The 1800-1825 kHz, 1975-2000 kHz, 3.50-3.55 MHz, 3.93-3.98 MHz, 3.984-4.000 MHz, 7.079-7.125 MHz, 7.245-7.255 MHz, 10.10-10.15 MHz, 14.047- 14.053 MHz, 14.22-14.23 MHz, 14.331-14.350 MHz, 21.047-21.053 MHz, 21.228- 21.267 MHz, 28.55-28.75 MHz, 29.237-29.273 MHz, 29.45-29.65 MHz, 50.35- 50.75 MHz, 52-54 MHz, 144.50-145.71 MHz, 146-148 MHz, 2390-2450 MHz segments; (2) The 1.25 m, 70 cm and 23 cm bands; and (3) The channels at 3.997 MHz and 53.30 MHz may be used in emergency areas when required to make initial contact with a military unit and for communications with military stations on matters requiring coordination. (c) A RACES station may only communicate with: (1) Another RACES station; (2) An amateur station registered with a civil defense organization; (3) A United States Government station authorized by the responsible agency to communicate with RACES stations; (4) A station in a service regulated by the FCC whenever such communication is authorized by the FCC. (d) An amateur station registered with a civil defense organization may only communicate with: (1) A RACES station licensed to the civil defense organization with which the amateur station is registered; (2) The following stations upon authorization of the responsible civil defense official for the organization with which the amateur station is registered: (i) A RACES station licensed to another civil defense organization; (ii) An amateur station registered with the same or another civil defense organization; (iii) A United States Government station authorized by the responsible agency to communicate with RACES stations; and (iv) A station in a service regulated by the FCC whenever such communication is authorized by the FCC. (e) All communications transmitted in RACES must be specifically authorized by the civil defense organization for the area served. Only civil defense communications of the following types may be transmitted: (1) Messages concerning impending or actual conditions jeopardizing the public safety, or affecting the national defense or security during periods of local, regional, or national civil emergencies; (2) Messages directly concerning the immediate safety of life of individuals, the immediate protection of property, maintenance of law and order, alleviation of human suffering and need, and the combating of armed attack or sabotage; (3) Messages directly concerning the accumulation and dissemination of public information or instructions to the civilian population essential to the activities of the civil defense organization or other authorized governmental or relief agencies; and (4) Communications for RACES training drills and tests necessary to ensure the establishment and maintenance of orderly and efficient operation of the RACES as ordered by the responsible civil defense organizations served. Such drills and tests may not exceed a total time of 1 hour per week. With the approval of the chief officer for emergency planning the applicable State, Commonwealth, District or territory, however, such tests and drills may be conducted for a period not to exceed 72 hours no more than twice in any calendar year. from IP address 204.227.186.4 |
Wearing Two Hats Works In VirginiabyIn Virginia the ARRL has a Memorandum of Understanding with the Virginia Department of Emergency Services and the Commonwealth recognizes the ARES organization and command structure as the RACES organization and command structure during emergencies. This makes training and switching hats easier, as we train under ARES without the time restrictions placed on RACES drills, and we can plan drills and SETS with the local EMS council or regional council of governments which involve hams all over the state, or even with neighboring states. When we perform service for local served agencies such as the Metro Washington Airport Authority,. the Northern VA EMS Council, the Red Cross or local hospitals, we wear the "ARES Hat". When we are activated by state government to provide mutual aid during hurricane Floyd, or by local government to stand a duty watch in the EOC during the Y2K transition period, we wear the "RACES Hat." The Virginia General Assembly adopted changes to state Code last year which established a uniform satewide ID card for RACES operators, which is issued by the Division of Motor Vehicles. To qualify for the ID card ham must complete a state approved 6-hour training course on RACES organizational structure and procedures, take an additional 6 hours of training and participate in a qualifying SET or actual Level III activation during the year. Local ECs must certify that operators meet all of the requirements. Then DMV sends the ham an authorization certificate which is printed on a tamper-proof security paper, which they take to their local DMV office to get their card. The RACES ID card is not required to participate in ARES activities. It is highly recommended for hams who may be called upon to provide mutual aid outside their local area. The ID card was extremely useful during Hurricane Floyd, as it identified RACES operators with their travel orders and faciliated passage through state police roadblocks and enabled escort into restricted areas like EOC's so we could be shown where to set up and do our jobs. Over 300 hams provided 9000+ hours of disaster relief after Floyd in Virginia. We didn't get plastered as bad as the poor folks in North Carolina, but the folks in Suffolk and Franklin really appreciated our help. A copy of our MOU with the State is available in the reference library Virginia ARES / RACES web page at http://www.aresva.org For an article describing RACES operations during hurricane Floyd look at the October/December issue of the Virginia Emergency Management Newsletter, accessible from the Emergency Management Information Center at vdes.va.state.us from IP address 166.94.189.164 |
Untitledby LWLongbowAS YOU HAVE WRITTEN YOUR ARTICLE SO ELOQUENTLY I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT HAM RADIO IS ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH EXTINCTION. ANYWAY I THINK IT'S TO LATE TO TURN AMATEUR RADIO AROUND. A WISE INDIAN CHIEF SAID THAT "IT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE". SO LONG (CW) FAREWELL AMATEUR RADIO SEVEN THREE LWLongbow from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
Citizen Band Radios and Cell Phones used in a state of emergency for communications.by LWLongbowHam radios were also used, but it took the Hams to long to get organized. By the time the Hams were ready it was all over and they have the gall to steal the credit. That's why we as hams need to work together to include the No-code techs and other communications resources such as cell phones, Computers, GMDSS, VHF, UHF, FM, and Citizen Band, Let's join the young people and we can all help lead the way. A young man who said he is also a Ham-No-code tech, gave an interview on the scene and he said he used his Citizen Band Radio because most everyone has a CB Radio. Some people even have integrated Cell Phones with Citizen Band features right on the Cell Phone. Further he said there is not many Hams listening on the bands anymore, they are gone off to the Inter-net. I wonder why (Newsline) don't report on important news like this? Also during the earth quake in Turkey they used Cell Phones and Citizen Band Radios. Let us work together for (Change). WE need to get rid of that (Old Code) Tell a friend and spread the word let's support the new technology. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. Seven Three LWLongbow P.S While My Grandson and I were driving on the Interstate, my Grandson used his hand held CB to talk to a Truck driver, the truck Drivers handle was (Old Red-dog) I'm 10 miles South of the Junction, watch out for (Old Smokie) heading North. My Grandson replied "Roger That" Then my Grandson asked me would a truck driver have a (Code Key) in his truck? and I answered I--don't think so, and my Grandson replied, well then Grandpa why don't everyone just get rid of that (Old Code) and I said not to worry Son Mr. CW Morse is dead! we just need to nail the coffin shut. O kay' Grandpa then let's do it. Young people don't care nothing about these Old (Far*@$x) and their (Code) from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
Turkey Quake Relief & Ham CommunicationsbyThe following report on Amateur Radio's exclusive communications support during the first 4 days after the Turkey quake was emailed to me by TA2NC and appear on September 3, 1999 at Ham Radio Online. (To the best of knowledge, CW was not used during this period.) -- Ed, KF7VY Ham Radio Provides Critical Communications for Turkey Quake Relief By Oguzhan Kayhan, TA2NC, Turkey, 3 September 1999 TA2NC reports to us from Turkey that Amateur Radio operators provided the only communications from the disaster area to the Internal Affairs Ministry during the first 4 days after the disaster. He estimates that more than 200 Trukish ham radio operators were working in crisis centers, providing critical communications, 24 hours per day, on HF, VHF and UHF radio frequencies. While the amateur operation has subsided, the government and the military continue to rely on use of the Amateur VHF and UHF repeater network. from IP address 204.227.186.28 |
And Citizen Band.by LWLongbowLet's not forget Citizen Band along with the cell phones that were also used. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio Seven Three LWLongbow from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
"CW" used in Turkey??????by LWLongbowWho said that?????? from IP address 63.23.64.189 |
Changing?byI have just found this site and I read that you are going to change it back to just a personal site. Boy was that disappointing. This is a great site with all sorts of good areas from radio related news to stock quotes and gosh knows what else and the last thing I read is it is going to change. I agree with a lot of the things in your "last" column, in fact most of them, and it is places like this site that can help change radio for the better. I am a tech + and just took my general theory test and I agree that the ARRL doesn't repersent most of us. They spend way too much time on contests and not so much on the rest of radio where most people are. Anyway try to keep this going close to what it is now because I think it is a great site. from IP address 216.192.29.57 |
Thanks GarybyI appreciate your encouragement Gary. I was hoping the HF and CW would be around. It is also an encouragement to know that there are others that were late bloomers in the HAM community. Dave from IP address 208.240.198.32 |
THE ARRL WEBSITE--NO FORUM THERE!by W8LV DE BILLI am an ARRL member. I am a CW QRP Operator. I belong to the ARRL....I find it rather interesting that there is NO FORUM there--I asked the webmaster why not put one there--he said they might.....hmmmmmm. Perhaps that would empower the MEMBERS to discuss the CW issue without going through the 'filter' that the ARRL seems to have become, in my opinion. I like CW, but think it silly to make it a requirement, by the way...Please send E-mail to ARRL, and request that they have a forum there, much like here....ARE THEY AFRAID OF OPEN DISCUSSION? "WE" are the members...I support the ARRL as a member, maybe you belong, too. Please write them and tell then YOU TOO WANT A FORUM TO DISCUSS ANY (AND "ALL") RADIO SUBJECTS ON THE ARRL SITE! from IP address 209.143.14.220 |
This just come in the Health Department has established that Ham Radio Amplifiers cause Memory lost.by LWLongbowNo wonder there is so many senile Hams. so Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. from IP address 63.24.118.232 |
Xmas presents and New Years cheer, a big change is forthcoming.by LWLongbowI just hope no one gets upset and vote their Senator or Congressman out of office. When the other half gets the news it will be a moment to rejoice this has been a long time in coming. Tech class Hams where are you? get your license out and dust it off and welcome back. And I hope we can then promote the new technology. Forget about (CW) you don't need that, let us move on. We are now going to get rid of that Old (Code). So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. This is a joyous time, goodwill to all. Seven Three LWLongbow Farewell Hams from IP address 63.24.118.232 |
Everything in (Amateur Radio) is in (Decline) what's new?by LWLongbowI will have another report on yet more bad news in Amateur Radio next week. I will need more details on this one so I can give my synopsis. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. Seven Three LWLongbow P.S. Don't forget to tell a fellow Amateur Radio Operator that (WE need to get Rid of that Old (Code) and drive a stake into the heart of old man (CW) Morse. He is draining the blood and very breath out of Amateur Radio. So let's Drive that stake through his heart now before the sun sets and the night falls. Already there has been far to many casualties. My Grandson says he will supply the wood stake. Let's just do it!!! lets get it over with. Farewell Amateur Radio from IP address 63.24.118.232 |
Not soby MikeMy buddy Rush said everything is fine. Mike from IP address 209.83.83.62 |
Reallyby LWLongbowMy sources in Washington think so. and they are very reliable. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. P.S Anyway Mike when the smoke clears we all will come tome together. Oh! not the (Old (Far*@$x) they will fomeing at the mouth until the end comes. Seven Three from IP address 63.24.118.232 |
RE: Amateur Radio in DeclinebyMr. Longbow, sir-- You seem to have a serious hang up on the CW requirement for access to the HF bands. Your numerous posts really say nothing at all-- merely that CW is killing ham radio, and that we need to drop the CW requirement. There are many factors that may bring about the decline and fall of amateur radio-- most of which are beyond our control. If the "gods of radio" have decreed that ham radio will die, then granting everyone access to the "magical HF bands" will not save it. Glenn -- AB7VO PS. -- Thus far I have not seen any indication that you hold any type of amateur license. Are you a ham or merely a ham "wannabe"? from IP address 207.173.253.150 |
Our Age is also in Decline.by LWLongbowWhere on earths hell did I mention anything in my articles about removing (CW) so "Hams" can have access to the (HF) bands? To hell with (HF)phone or (CW). You neither can read or you don't understand what you are reading. If my articles don't say anything don't read them. Must I reiterate! for you? (just don't read them). Oh!!!!!!!boy I am more of a (Amateur Radio Operator) than you or many of the others could possibly ever be. Anyway (wannabes) wouldn't hang out hear, they have better things to do. Please!! let us not get into that. Anyway my Grandson done his cross reference lookup and he found that you also belong to that (Old) illustrious club. My thrust is towards fighting (CW) wherever I can, so don't loose any sleep over it. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. Seven Three de LWLongbow P.S. How was it in VA? from IP address 63.24.118.200 |
Young people are impressionable, let's work with them and support change.by LWLongbowIf we as Amateur Radio Operators refuse to support change, nurture the young, support their interest and help promote the new technology we are going to perish. These young people don't care about (CW) and (HF) phone, they want Computers, Pagers, Cell phones and the inter-net. They dodn't even want (HTs). Anyway while my Grandson and I were out on a Xmas shopping spree today and as we were motoring along, my Grandson saw a Taxicab with an antenna on top of the cab and he says Grandpa is that an Old [#@$+x]I said no, my Grandson then saw a United Parcel Truck with an antenna on top of the Truck and he says Grandpa is that an Old [#@$+x] and I said, I don't think so. Later as we were continuing along, my Grandson says look Grandpa!!!!!, it was a Jeep Cherokee with a (Outbacker) antenna on the left rear, my Grandson asked me, Grandpa is that an Old [#@$+x] I said yes and my Grandson replied "I thought so" Let's get rid of that old (Code) and embrace the new technology along with the young people. So Long (CW) Farewell Amateur Radio. from IP address 63.23.64.207 |
So Long (CW) and goodbye soon Amateur Radio Newsline Farewell amateur Radio.by LWLongbowWhat more can you expect from an organization that does biased reporting. Newsline tries to sensationalize some of their reporting , but most of the issues contained in Newsline reports are contrived if not old warmed over news from some other journal. Newsline probably won't last but they would better off going to a biweekly report. One can go back a year and read some of Newsline's articles, many are very contradictory and sometimes I don't think the reporters know who they want to support. The fact of the matter is Newsline sure don't have the support of the young, the (VHF) enthusiasts and the (No-Code Techs). Let's get more of the young people involved, we need them to bring their Computers the inter-net and cell phones into Amateur Radio. The minority (CW) fans are going to be pushed into extinction and that is also a fact. Anyway it seems as if my article on Amateur Radio Newsline (Stumbling) has awaken the dead, the half dead, and almost dead over at editors desk and they sure didn't waste any time getting report #1164 up in audio, I think they feared a gross lost of funding from the (CW) fans. So they found someone to do the encoding right away. How many of you saw Newsline's posting? (Anyway We need to get rid!! of that old Code) So Long (CW) and sooner than you think Amateur Radio Newsline. Farewell Amateur Radio. Seven three LWLongbow from IP address 63.23.64.207 |
Times are goodby MikeYou have just described every newspaper,newsletter,magazine and publication in the US and free world. And your point is? Mike from IP address 209.83.83.184 |
The Point is! just what it says .Newsline is in big trouble, if they don't change the Format.by LWLongbowMy focus is on Newsline. Yes free speech,remember the Voice of America? Radio Free Europe? there might have been some truth there. Some Amateur Radio News reporting mimics that of the Communist Newspaper Pravda. Tell them what we want them to know and report on what those Old,(well you know who)want to hear. Where can you find in Newsline reports anything about the new technology or the support of the young people? If you believe that times are good then I can understand why you think so. (Mike you are in trouble!) Anyway I cancelled no less than than (8) Amateur radio magazine subscriptions, and I am not the only one, tens of thousands of others have cancelled also. So what's yourrrrr point? As far as these times are concerned it's far to late for Amateur Radio Newsline, they will soon be out of business. Have you ever seen a leopard change his spots? Well-(Far*@$x) don,t change neither, they are either young or old ones. Today My Grandson asked me, Grandpa since I am a young (Far*@$x) and you are an Old (Far*@$x) then what's the difference? I replied, well son a young (Far*@$x) is subject to change and an old (Far*@$x) will never change, they just stay the same and hang around that's the difference. But unless you open some doors and windows and let the Old (Far*@$x) get out, they will just remain Old (Far*@$x). My Grandson says well then Grandpa is that why Amateur Radio can't change because (CW) is like an Old (Far*@$x)and (CW) has been hanging around to long? Yes son, be sure and open all the windows and air out all of the old (Far*@$x)because they have been hanging around to long. Newsline is like the homeless, they remind me of a homeless person I saw one day in the shopping center. The homeless person approached me with his hand open and in his hand he had some change, quarters, dimes, and nickles, the homeless person said to me Kind Sir i only have enough money to eat today and that he needed some more money to eat tomorrow. I gave him two bucks then as I turned to walk away I noticed in his shopping cart of junk a box with a heading that read, Amateur Radio for the next Century. That's a sign of the times. That encounter reminds me of Newsline, they are experts on begging. If the leadership at Newsline had the (Ba*@$) to change they might not have to do that. Newsline needs to report on articles about VHF, UHF, FM, Spread Spectrum, GMDSS, Cell Phone Communications, Computers, the Inter-net, and Amateur Radio. Newsline needs to shift it's focus towards the new technology and have something for the No-code Techs the young people and I don't mean the Young Ham of the year Award which was probably submitted by some special interest group. We don't need to save the Titanic anymore it's been over for almost (100)years. Let the spirit of the Radioman who sent that historic S.O.S message rest in peace. (To hell!!! with (CW) we need to get rid of that old code)and move on. So Long (CW) and sooner than you think (Amateur Radio Newsline) Farewell Amateur Radio. Seven Three LWLongbow P.S. My Grandson says what the heck!! does he need an (HT) or a big 50 lb (HF) Radio for when he has cell phone, pager, family Radio and Citizen Band Radio? Anyway my Grandson is into a great hobby, learning to fly Aircraft. Farewell to my Grandson. from IP address 63.24.118.232 |
You'r the bestby MikeYou tell the best stories. Mike from IP address 209.83.83.62 |
Trueby LWLongbowReal life stories. from IP address 216.67.25.152 |
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