Gary Hindman's Custom Model 113 and Model 114
Both guns are bulk fill. They have a silver finish on the barrel and the CO2 tube. Stocks have been redone to a natural finish. Simmons .22 3x9x32 AO silver scope and rings are connected using IA mounts
Model 113- Predator Polymags .177- 5-shot groups @ 25 yds. =.440" C-C - Avg. velocity 697 fps 25 shots ( high 721 fps)
Model 114 - JSB Exacts .22 - 5-shot groups @ 25yds. = .54O" C-C- Avg.velocity 654 fps. 25 shots (high 660 fps)
Dang rightMay 26 2012 at 8:07 AM
|Ron (Login oo7fuzz)|
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Response to "....that's why it hasn't really changed over a hundred years or whatever "...this is not
I have tried to get my head around the ACMSP concept.
I do understand fully the concept. But for the life of me I cannot understand why this innovation, I call it a gift, has apparently not been as widly accepted in the airgun community as I might expect if would/should be.
I know that Steve in NC pioneered, paved the way and did bring debouncing to light in a very practical manner. Also I know that yourself and James are strong advocates of the air conserving concept. Keep it up!
But lets talk a bit about efficiency.
For openers, I believe that the springer must be eliminated from efficiency discussion. To me, the springer is nothing but a love-hate affair. Love it for its efficiency and its profile of what I think a long gun should look like, but hate it for its violent firing cycle.
I do believe that some day the springer, once tamed and and engineered to a reasonable retail price, will outdistance the ACMSP, the PCP and the SSP in popularity.
But back to efficiency regarding the ACMSP versus the PCP.
Should an efficiency rating can be assigned the PCP by simply precharging the gun, firing a string and do math calculations to determine AIR consumption versus ejecta fpe?
In the real world we cannot view an electric automobile efficient only because we spend less per mile. We have to consider the subsidies doled out to the manufacturer and the end user to calculate just how inefficient the whole project really is in a practical arena. Same goes for wind turbines.
Therefore when a fellow touts the efficiency of a PCP, he never considers the entire behind the scene costs. Such as air compressors, air tank and accesories, traveling and filling service costs to fill a tank and so on.
All I am saying that when we calculate efficiency, leave the free air out of the equation and do real world bean counting which is COST consumption versus ejecta fpe.
If then we can agree on such criteria, and consider the ACMSP, a self contained package which is powered up by a renewable energy resource,(Mia Copa for eluding to pumping) then the ACMSP is truely the halmark of efficiency.
Anyway, thats what I think.
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