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Doesn't look like much has changed...

March 28 2011 at 1:09 PM

Jim Crawford  (Login BlueMeanies)
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but looks can be deceiving.
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Lets see. over the last month or so I've tweaked the AS2250 quite a bit.

1st: Upped the pressure behind the pellet to 1800psi.
2nd: Beefed up the hammer spring.
3rd: Made a 1018 steel hollow probe bolt and cocking lever.
4th: Put anti-friction rings on the striker.
5th: Beefed up all seals.
6th: Made a metal transfer tube.
7th: Made a Delrin poppet.
8Th: Made a 12" shroud.
9Th: Had Leupold change the scope parallax from 60yrds to 25yrds.
10th:Changed the scope rings to a medium from a low.
11th:Waiting for a Pacific Pelletguns two stage trigger to arrive.

End result, went from 685fps w/25.4gr pellet to 790fps with the same 25.4gr pellet. 35.2fpe! Not a leak to be found anywhere.

Very pleased with how everything turned out. Raising the optic really helped with allowing for a much improved cheek weld. Groupings are good now but should be great after the new trigger goes in.

Going to have to change it's name to the turkey tenderizer -at least until rabbit season opens.

Gobble. Gobble.


    
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(Login twhooper)
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I like it..!

March 28 2011, 4:57 PM 

Im a fan of modding the XT. Mine's still CO2 but shrouded and hotter valve among other things. Have a Hawke AO scope on it. Curious about the metal transfer tube. Is that like the poly tube transfer port? What ID did you use please?

Be Well... Tom

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Jim Crawford
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Made out of brass

March 28 2011, 5:50 PM 

It took a bit of trial and error to get the length right. It's a compression fit between the breech and valve.

The ID is a #18 drill as is the exhaust port in the valve.

 
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Ian
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Looks like you dropped it

March 28 2011, 5:01 PM 

in mud. But it looks very cool, I like it.

S.W.A.G. it!

 
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CO222
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Good work on it.

March 28 2011, 6:14 PM 

Is your new exhaust valve seal flat faced or tapered?

 
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Jim Crawford
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Flat on the valve end and

March 28 2011, 6:27 PM 

a 3/16 OD "nipple" at the barrel end. This extension is approximately .05" long. The barrel port has been drilled out to 3/16" and the nipple fits into that hole. As a result, the transfer tube effectively extends flush with the ID of the barrel bore.

 
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(Login luft11_hoflich)
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Moar info!!!!

March 28 2011, 6:17 PM 

I can't seem to get my rig above 20FPE in .22

I have a 1800psi tank like yours, poly transfer tube, B&A valve, discovery hammer spring (stock stryker) and a 2x" Discovery .22 barrel.

I get 20FPE

What am I doing wrong here?

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Moar info is greatly appreciated brother.
Joe Cortez.

Sick 'em H�f!!!

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(Login BlueMeanies)
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Check the ID of

March 28 2011, 6:44 PM 

the port in the B&A valve. I have the same valve and needed to drill it larger with a #18 drill bit.

Also, I changed the inner valve spring to an external style. There are posts on the yellow somewhere that show this.

Tons of brass can be removed from the inlet side of the valve as well. Increases volume.

The ridged transfer tube gave me a 20fps bump.

Getting the hammer spring strong enough to open the valve quickly took some fussing. I used a spring that I bought at a machinist supply store here in San Diego. It has a larger diameter than stock so both the striker and end cap had to be bored out.

Make a Delrin spring guide that slips inside of that spring. Keeps the energy going in only one direction.

The most profound boost in energy came from making a Delrin poppet and getting rid of the stock Crosman with it's mystery goo seal. At such high pressure, seems the poppet gets smooshed into the valve body. This translates into the poppet effectively taking longer to reach full open. The Delrin poppet opens crisply. It's important to get that poppet open as fast as possible.

 
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(Login luft11_hoflich)
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could you post pictures of all what you're saying.

March 28 2011, 6:49 PM 

Sorry if it's too much work but I'm in pursuit of your achievements happy.gif

Thanks alot.
Joe Cortez.

Sick 'em H�f!!!

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Jim Crawford
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I'll do what I can

March 28 2011, 6:59 PM 

short of opening the gun up again. It's so sweet right now I don't want to disturb anything.

Stay tuned.

 
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(Login BlueMeanies)
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Valve mod stickie

March 28 2011, 7:05 PM 

http://www.network54.com/Realm/CFTech/Biovalveupdate.htm

Most of the valve mods came from here. The B&A port is already drilled at an angle, just needs to be a little bigger (#18).

The Boss valve is good but there is still room for improvement.

More to follow...

 
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(Login BlueMeanies)
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More stuff

March 28 2011, 7:08 PM 

This is not the actual valve, but you can see what a Delrin poppet with the external spring mod looks like.
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(Login BlueMeanies)
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The anti friction rings

March 28 2011, 7:14 PM 

were necessary on this AG because of the super strong hammer(striker) spring. The bolt would bind because of how hard I had to pull the cocking lever to cock the gun. It was wedging in the tube. Delrin rings made it slicker than deer guts on a doorknob.

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(Login BlueMeanies)
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Spring guide

March 28 2011, 7:36 PM 

Here's one of the needed to be just a bit bigger/longer/shorter parts from my tuning project.

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It slips inside the hammer spring to prevent it from bending sideways.

 
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CO222
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Sounds much too low.

March 28 2011, 7:19 PM 

If it seems to hit a wall of 20fpe then I'd check carefully for leaks. Use the tissue paper
over the breech technique. A leak can have a regulating effect, any more air only serves to
make the leak worse. Had it on a pumper with plastic breech flex.

 
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(Login Yellowdman)
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Awesome TT Jim!

March 28 2011, 7:35 PM 

I was curious what pressure you were running when I read an earlier post you did. I was getting 31 fpe with the 25.4gr pellets and the senior bigboy 28.6gr pellets and I had a leak at my TP seal. I took everything apart and made a new seal and now I'm getting 33.3 fpe on 1600psi and I'm very tempted to switch to 1800psi but I might wait a little since I'm building a shroud for mine which I'll post some pics next week. I'm stoked you passed my numbers but I'm a little jealous too! wink.gif SWEET!

 
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(Login BlueMeanies)
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33 fpe @ 1600

March 28 2011, 7:41 PM 

ain't nothin' to bark at!

I'd say you've done a very fine tune on that bad boy.

I was below your numbers until I made the poppet. That was the missing ingredient.

I'm wondering if 1600 might be near the sweet spot for the AS. Seems like I needed to do a heck of allot of mods just to squeak out another 2fpe @ 1800.


    
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(Login askernie)
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Nice...clean...and mean looking.

March 30 2011, 6:58 AM 


Great Job. I really like to see clean mods like that.

awesome.

ernie the eyeball

 
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