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1322 Medalist

August 20 2012 at 10:22 AM
Michael  (Login mecompco)
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Probably a dumb question, but how close is the Medalist 1322 to the newer 1322s? I see "Phase One" and "Phase Two" guns mentioned in some of the tear-down and mod threads.

I recently acquired one that will not hold any pressure whatsoever, so have been reading up on the possible repairs.

Thanks!

Michael

PS In doing some research, I think this is an earlier gun--it has no bolt, just a sliding cover over the breach. I think it does have the plastic breach, so perhaps this is a Medalist II Type II? Anyway, I would like to acquire the parts to make it operational.


    
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Re: 1322 Medalist

August 20 2012, 12:38 PM 

I'm thinking there was another older pistol called a Medalist that was shorter and used a different valve system than the current 1377/22. Not sure and can't look it up right now.

As long as the forearm on yours is pretty much the same as the one on the current 1322, the valve will be pretty much the same too.
I have a couple of old 1377's with the sliding breach cover (one plastic breach, one metal breach) and they have basically the same guts as the current model. In fact I swapped out a whole new 1377 valve in one and had no trouble doing it.

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The older Medalist in .22...

August 20 2012, 5:14 PM 

...was a self-cocker. If this is the pistol you are referring to, then it is not anything like the modern 1322. Like AGA said, it is smaller and shoots slower.

 
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nothing like the 1377/1322

August 20 2012, 11:05 PM 

the medalist has the pop off valve like used in the 140/1400 crosman rifles. the more pumps the harder the trigger is to pull. mine is average and chronies arounf 350 fps on 8 pumps. definitely not a powerhouse and i wouldn't spend a lot of money on it.

 
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Added some pix

August 24 2012, 5:15 AM 

OK, it's just a Medalist 1322 and I just want to verify that it's not worth any investment of time/money (obviously, new ones are pretty cheap). Here are some pix:

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Thanks again for all the help!

Regards,
Michael

 
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Looks a lot like my first generation 1377

August 25 2012, 6:15 AM 

If the bore is good, it's worth fixing. I bought my phase 1 1377 and found the guy had really oiled it up so the seals would work, but in a day or so I'd shot out enough oil that the air would go right out the barrel as I pumped it. I just bought a whole new 1377 valve from Crosman. It was less than $10 at the time. Gun works fine now.
Yours looks a lot like my vintage 1377. The older Medalist was shorter with a different forearm and auto cocked when you pumped it, so no need for a cocking knob.
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Michael
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Thanks!

August 26 2012, 8:38 AM 

Andy, thanks for your response--yes, mine does look just like your 1377, albeit a little rougher cosmetically. So if I understand correctly, you're saying current 1322 parts should fit?

Since it won't hold any air at all, would you think the valve is at fault, or just the seals? I'll check the bore and make sure it is reasonable--I really would like to get this running if it's not total junk.

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Mihcael

 
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Re: Thanks!

August 27 2012, 6:15 AM 

Mine had a faulty exaust seal that allowed the air to go right out the barrel. Crosman had made slight changes to the valve stem design over the years, which concerned me if the new stem would work in an old valve. So just to be sure I ordered a whole new valve. Gotta take the valve out to reseal it anyway. And I replaced the piston cup seal too, just for the heck of it.

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Re: Thanks!

August 27 2012, 12:13 PM 

Thank you! I don't suppose you still have those part numbers handy? Though perhaps the valve is different for the .22?

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Michael

 
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