Even if one Disagrees with my Conclusions I ask them to draw their own conclusions and to debate with me with facts not oppinions.


Before I start we will begin with a brief definition of my terminology , in order there may Be no confusion.

Islamist : A person who believes in and advocates a political alternative based upon Shariah, these come in two camps one which wants a worldwide khalifate (either name a khalifa, by the Ulemma/Ummah (bottom to top) or an islamic ruler to act as a Khalifa from (top to bottom) or the second group influenced by the Muslim brotherhood of Egypt which believes in a Liberal view where people can legislate islamic laws and such people and laws can edge non islamic (kuffar) legislation (ordain what is lawfull forbid what is prohibited)

Wahabbi: An Offensive term used by non Sunni Muslims to describe the Hanafi school of thought, or any Saudi Based Scholars. In reality Every Sunni believes in the Teachings of Ibn Abdul Wahaab, That there is no Human understanding of God, that Gods Knowledge is in All things, and lastly That The Quran Then the Authentic Hadiths and then lastly (Schools,Fatwa and Fiqhi) Jurisprudence is the correct methodology.

Salafi: A term used by groups of muslims to refer to the past gererations (the best generation also) although Al Salaf were the best generation in terms of understanding the Quran and Sunnah. Salafi usualy today are the most uncompromising, hostile ,militant groups in Sunni Islam Many of The Salafi Groups were funded by the Kingdom of Saudi arabia to Placate its significant educated population, While the rulers were in power and were corrupt, the people by and large were not, With this money came saudi infulence and control to send the Angry enlightened masses which would and should attack the kingdom abroad.


I will begin now with a review of Nations where the Call of Jihad is to my understanding fard 'ayn (obligatory) Chechnya,Afghanistan,Sudan,The Philipines, Kashmir, East Turkestan,and surprisingly The United States, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia!.

Chechnya is in the hearts of the Believers, the Chechen people are today reduced to living abroad as the Salafi Arab mujihadeen and the Chechen Sufi as well as Chechen/Circaucassian mafia kill as many of eachother as they do the Russian Soldiers it will be a surprise to many to hear of this, for many years Khattab (the Arab commander of Arab forces loyal to Chechnya) had been dealing with the Chechen mafia who would smuggle him arms as well as smuggle things thru and off the russians, Chechen politics and intreague is very troublesome as apparently Khattab had tried to cement himself as the only Arab Commander in Chechnya and he began to try to bring people to Chechnya himself and refuse to deal with the Local forces, The Sufis and the Mafia may had played a role in his death and in the death of his Intelligence officer Abu Yaukub, as we reflect upon the new year let us pause and reflect for the chechen people the wolves of the mountains!

Afghanistan The Taliban Movement is still fighting, but more troublesome to the american puppet Karzai, must be the pashtuns feelings of marginalization, millions of Pashtuns go without, while tadjik,and uzbek warlords and their cronies again cultivate Poppies. Common sendiment by the people of afghanistan revolves around while the taliban were brutal, atleast one was not murdered and or raped in the street. there is an Afghan saying perhaps the afghans here are familliar with it, "During the talibans time birds in kandahar flew with both wings". as we reflect upon this new year may we hope for peace and justice in Afghanistan.


Sudan: Sudans on again off again Armistace has been broken in the past week over 400 people have died in the Govt Controlled southern towns, an Ethnic and religious census Places Black Nilotic,beja (northern) and Arab at around some 80% of the population and in religious terms some 3/4th of the population adheres to one islamic school or another. the rest belong to Animist 2-1 over Christian, people cattegorise the slave trade as being Arabs enslaving Black Africans , let us review this... Here is the Immage of Hassan al Turabi (jailed political/ideological leader of the islamists of sudan) and here is the Immage of General Busheir the de facto leader as we can clearly see both of them display arab features?... The Slave trade has happened in areas not under the control of the central govt of Busheir, as beja tribesmen on horseback enslave their fellow nilotic sudanese or in some cases enslave members of their own family and tribe so that gullible christian missionaries and tv crews can purchase them. http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~aphamala/pe/issue2/sudan.htm http://www.aboutsudan.com/issues/human_rights/slave_trade_fraud.htm or in other cases we can clearly see the role of the brittish CSI (counter slavery international and baroness cox of the house of lords arming John Gurang,the SPLA ,and the ugandan lords resistance army as well as the Rwandan/Burundi hutus)


The Philipines: The Philipines like all East Asian states cries out for Islamic Teachers, but more than this A Muslim Community of over 700 years is under attack Before grenada (the last muslim stronghold in Iberia) fell, the Muslims of the Philipines were! and like them they stood against the conquistador, and more than them they stood against the us marine and the communist and now in the face of poverty these people may succumb to the temptations of the Northern govt. , Overwealmingly Catholic and seeking to tame the south once and for all, They and the Bush regime are working day and night to stop the southern muslims in Mindinao from fishing in their traditional areas , while at the same time erradicating their culture. bearded men denied jobs, traditional fishermen in small boats chased off while mega tonned chinese,japanese,and singaporean ships are allowed to fish or even in the cases where loyal filipino subjects who are muslim are denied even basic housing on the terms that this development is non muslim http://kalilintad.tripod.com/imanstatement1.htm as we reflect this year may we hope for a Champion to arise among the Muslims of the Philipines.


Kashmir: Kashmir is the most heavily militarized spot in the world some 600,000 Indian Troops and paramilitaries. India has denied a UN Ordered Plebliscite for over 50 years, the Indians rather than the Pakistanis have refused to have this issue placed before the UN or any International arbitrary body. the status of Jihad in Kashmir is an awkward one, Pskistani ISI is quite happy to send young men off to die in suicide operatiosn and QUITE Unwilling to allow the militants to wage a war of attrition. western looking foreigners are immediately detained and arrested. Militant Camps are heavily spied upon (by ISI) and armed with only the most basic of small arms, in some celebrated cases Militant leaders and militant attacks have been communicated to the Indian side leaving many of the kashmiri based militants to wonder whos side are they fighting on. as we reflect let us pause for these brave and hardy mountain people.


East Turkestan/Uighair autonomus region: The Chinese of this forum may be surprised to note that there are some 40 million Muslims inside their nation, some 19 million of whom live in their westernmost province. The People of This province are being ethnicly cleansed, while the battle against communism was on every muslims mind in the 1980s few hardy souls knew of East Turkmenstan. The famous Chinese Admiral Zeng He , was a Hui that the man who impressed the world with his chinese fleet was infact a Sunni Muslim inscribed upon his simple tomb is Allahu Akbar. as we reflect on this new year may we think of China and of the Ughair and of one Sino-Muslim Admiral.


This Brings me to the United States, Many of you May be asking Patrick are you Mad to suggest that Muslims should wage Jihad here???!?, my anwser is yes infact its obligatory!

People should not be deluded in thinking that Americas War on terror is anything but the american elite making a scapegoat out of the muslims in this nation and abroad and enriching themselves with some sweet crude... as we talk here american soldiers are being killed wounded and maimed for life while the pipelines are being built in far away afghanistan (trans central asian pipleline) , Azerbadjan (Trans Caucasus) and in Iraq.

Here we have it .... Why were members of the Bin laden Family flown starting sept 13th 2001 in the united states as a personal favor to the K.S.A.? How many Iraqis did we suspect of terrorism? Since we in America say We will never forget 9-11 why have we forgotten allready the links between the Bush and Bin Laden family, the 13 Hijackers 11 of which are alive and well living abroad, the presidents prior knowledge, Why is it This Man Bin Laden is so well known in the Arab world?? has anyone forgotten his familys links to the CIA and his ROLE in the death of Dr Abdullah Azzam? Why if all the Hijackers are and were Saudi did the United states choose to attack SECULAR! Iraq? for these reasons and the continual american embilical cord to Israel, Muslims here must wage Jihad,

IT is Harram (forbidden) for any muslim here in the united states to wage war? (since we have come here and asked for the protection of this and these western states) have you forgotten allready the Example of the Rasool sawws? (literaly the Prophet, and then peace upon him, a Reference to the Prophet, means Muhammed, last Prophet of God)

The Quran and Sunnah make it clear you are forbidden to take the Jew and the Christian as your protector! and what do you do? many Muslims come here or to the Uk or to France, you go there as Refugees instead of remaining aloof and caring about only your dignity , you choose an umbrella of factions to deny these people who are your protectors their choices while you remain with your choices, how many muslims in the united states cry for secularism when it suits them? yes remove the pledge of allegiance because it says God instead of the Arabic word for THE God (Al Lah),
But heaven forbid the french should ask that public schools and public places remain free of not only the cross and the yarmulke but the Kufi and the Hijjab, Did these frenchmen whos hands are still stained with the blood of the algerians ask for you to come there? do they order you to send your sons and daughters to their universities? instead of marching in the streets and gnashing your teeth in anger, refuse to send your daughters to their schools refuse to send your sons to work unless he can pray... that is the islamicly just thing to do open your own schools you have chosen them as protectors and willingly paid allegiance to them but who do you owe your dignity?


And lastly Signs of the Great Victory of Islam here in the United States how many of the esteemed Ulemma who denounces the Great Satan,the dar ul Kufar, dar ul snakes, is aware Islam is growing here in this nation, as we sit on our hands and do nothing, during the 1990s American Soldiers were reverting to Muslim, in Droves and many were leaving the services? How many unknown numbers of Muslims are there among the veterans of the 1st american gulf war? Just How many MP's and Guards Converted among the Guards at Guantanamo bay? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/51BAD764-65E3-4F50-A490-F9C8B756C177.htm What is the Face of Jihad in the UNITED STATES???

it is the face of the Suburban Youth , It is the face of the native American, it is the face of your Black, your poor and even in cases your religious leaders... America has met its match, . What a World we live in where the Prison,the Army,The suburbs,the ghettos,the reservations and the theological/semminaries all serve to bring people to this faith you have declared war upon. for this reason, and for the pleasure of Allah Muslims here must be more vocal,less hidden why havent the Ikhwan movements of the world come to appalachia? why havent brothers
why if there are sizable arab buisnesses in Urban poor areas why arent there islamic schools bringing americas youth to Islam? Immagine if for one week, the Arab Muslim Buisnessmen of Newyork city,harlem,boston,detroit,houston and los angeles set aside a little space to advertise and a small amount of money to Do as The Rasool did , To Namely Call the debtor,Call the hungry

Who can forget the hadith of the Muslim brother who quietly gave charity at night for he gave charity to the Richman,the Theif and to the whore... he gave money to the richman so that he might remember the Blessing God gave to him, and he Gave Money to the thief so that he might not have to steal, and to the whore so that she may have modesty .... This is the example we should emulate.


and now Lastly saudi Arabia is the Ummah content, and is the Ulemma content to watch as the Mujihadeen of Saudi Arabia are tortured? are you content to see a Corrupt Monarchy calls itself the Protectors of Mekka and Medina?.

Are you aware that wahabbis are frowned upon by sunni muslims in SEA and South Asia. I have muslim friends here and many lay the blame for Islam`s current problem with terrorism on Wahhabism. Osama is a wahhabi. Sunni muslims in SEA and south Asia do not associate themselves with wahhabi teachings. They follow Imam Shafiee,etc. Wahhabis, in the view of my muslim friends, interpret the quran in thier own fashion and discard the interpretations made by previous imams all the way back to the prophet. If a mistake is commited, adherents are safe in the sense that it could be traced back to teachers from antiquity and all the way back to the prophet. Wahhabis are basically know-it-alls and thier teachings claim ascendancy over established interpretations. And that is dangerous as it could result in fanatical interpretations.

No educated Sunni uses the term wahabbi Bin laden is not wahabbi as he has issued "fatwa" which overrule past Fiqhi judgements as well as the Quran and Sunnah.

Bin Ladens personal Aqeeda (not to be confused with al-qaeda, it is an arab word which means methodology or system) is one based upon the Hanafi fiqh (law)with his own and Dr ayman zahrwi's (itjihad) Interpretation. a Wahabbi would look to the Quran then the Sunnah and then the Madhab (schools of thought)before using ITJIHAD (Intepretation) . so as you can see Your Understanding was incorrect.

Thanks for that info on Islam we had on chat.


Regards

Djihad arround the world.
And trouble and war everywhere.

Well Abdullah you will fail with this strategy.

All the terror has already made arabs the most disrespected people in Europe.

Attacking civilians and bombing public places will produce only more hate among your enemies.

Right now in Europe there are corrupt left wing governments which interprete terror as an answer to colonial time etc.

But in the future Europeans won´t share this opinion anymore. They will demand all muslims expelled from Europe and ban Islam from Europe so that there is more safety again.

No more bombings, less crime, less rapes of European women...

And if there are still attacks the countries where the terrorists come from will face some heavy restricions and sanctions...

And maybe one day Europeans think about Constantinople and Jerusalem again

(Even I actually see no political leader who will drive this more right wing course )



"Es wird niemals so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Krieges und nach der Jagd." Otto von Bismarck


Long live Nato and the EU and the Western world.

Jihad is making the world hate islam it is carried out by confused and impressionable kids who have lost all hope and lack dicipline...

To all those would be jihadi's in Pakistan watch out...We have had enough of you using our country as a dustbin...
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=av&p=New+Pakistan>

Watch the video... Your going down.. :D

Deleted I dont Want to Get Banned.

if U all understand just litle bit about "JIHAD" then U will know it's not bad thing..




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1. BELIEF IN THE ONE SUPREME GOD
2. A JUST AND CIVILIZED HUMANITY
3. THE UNITY OF INDONESIA
4. DEMOCRACY GOVERNED BY THE WISDOM OF THE DELIBERATION AND REPRESENTATION
5. SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR THE WHOLE OF THE PEOPLE

Abdullah, the UN Resolution specifically demands Pakistan to remove its troops from Pakistani Kashmir, no such demand has been made of the Indian Army, prior to the Plebiscite.
It is Pakistan that is stalling the Plebiscite, by not withdrawing from its illegal occupation of Jammu and Kashmir. Remember who brought war to Kashmir, the Indian Union never wanted the Kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir, it was only when the Raja came begging to us for Pakistan had invaded his kingdom.

BTW, a Kashmiri IAS officer has raised many eyebrows in India, after writing a paper calling for increased US involvement in the Kashmir dispute. Here, I post an article that responds to this officer's demands:

Why should US have a role in J&K?

September 15, 2004


Wajahat Habibullah is an IAS officer of 1968 vintage and from the Jammu & Kashmir state cadre. Having served in his state in various capacities, including divisional commissioner in the nineties, he is said to be an expert on J&K who, moreover, currently holds the very high position of secretary in the Government of India.

A disturbing shadow must now be cast on those credentials after reading his recently released report of 19 pages (of A4 size) which, during a sabbatical with scholarship, he wrote for United States Institute of Peace and which bears the pedantic title 'The Political Economy of the Kashmir Conflict: Opportunities for Economic Peacebuilding and for US Policy.'


That report (http://www.usip.org/pubs/specialreports/sr121.html) is absurd in its concept of 'Kashmir,' ignoring as it does the hybrid politico-geographical contours which, for decades now, have splintered the original political map of the erstwhile princely state of J&K. The report is superficial about its depiction of the eco-political situation in what is labelled as 'Kashmir,' and is somewhat hilarious in its recommendations for a US role as a facilitator in resolving the long-simmering dispute between India and Pakistan.


It is bizarre for any political analysis of the problems and solutions of the J&K impasse to focus entirely on that part of the state which is under the domain of the Government of India while totally ignoring discussion on the fate of those other portions of the former princely state that have long been under the control of Pakistan and China. Considering that the Indian part of J&K measures 106,567 sq kms, while that held by Pakistan is 78,114 sq kms and the two separate areas under China total 37,555 sq kms, any commentary on the 'Kashmir' conflict on the basis of the territory held by India alone is ridiculous. That, shockingly, is what Habibullah the 'expert' has done for USIP.


To illustrate, the report doesn't even mention that it was Pakistan that gifted territory to China from what it had occupied through blatant aggression. It talks of 'human rights abuses committed by the Indian security forces,' of the 'Kashmiris alienated from the state,' of the 'Kashmiris mired in poverty,' and of 'restoring to the Kashmiris the dignity compromised by India's rule over their land.' But it completely overlooks Pakistan's suppression of the so-called 'Azad Kashmir' (area: 4,000 sq miles) and its subjugation of the Gilgit and Baltistan region (area: 28,000 sq miles). The least that the man could have done before putting pen to paper is to have read the two interviews of Balawaristan leader, Nawaz Khan Naji, by rediff's senior editor, Ramanand Sengupta in March this year. (http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/mar/16inter.htm and http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/mar/17inter.htm).


With Pakistan always being America's favourite child vis-à-vis India and Uncle Sam being in some awe of China, the speculation is not illogical.


Take another incomprehensible imaging in Habibullah's report. While stating that India's argument for the legitimacy of its claim to J&K was the accession deed signed by the state's monarch, the author states that 'Pakistan has always questioned the legality of that compact' and that 'Pakistan has argued that districts with Muslim majorities should have been assigned to the new state of Pakistan.' He goes on to say, 'For India, this argument militates against the concept on which Indian nationhood is founded, namely India as a multiethnic, secular nation-state.' The reality is that whatever be Pakistan's delusion on this score, India's claim to the whole of J&K as it once was has always been on the basis of an accession contract signed as per the British parliament's mandate and valid as per the monarchical system of governance.


Then there are Habibullah's statements on the Kashmiris' sense of 'separateness,' of 'alienation,' of their demand for freedom. The reality concealed by Habibullah is that the political representatives of India's J&K are the ones who have always wanted 'separateness.' Right from the time four nominees of the state were appointed to India's Constituent Assembly after accession, and J&K got the separate state constitution it had demanded, every J&K state government in power has exploited Article 370 of the Indian Constitution to deepen that 'separateness' from the rest of India in ways dealt with briefly in this writer's last column.(http://www.rediff.com//news/2004/aug/10arvind.htm). No effort whatsoever has been made by the rulers of the Kashmir valley to become emotionally bonded with the rest of India; calls for abrogation of Article 370 by people in the Jammu and Ladakh regions of the state as well as by some outside the state have been met with a threat of revolt.

Again, contrary to what is alleged in the Habibullah report, the Indian government has never stood in the way of increasing industrial and business opportunities in its part of J&K. Rather, as any expert on J&K would know, the state itself is largely responsible for this by denying the right to purchase immovable property to 'outsiders' who are not recognised by it as its 'permanent residents.'

ALSO READ: I did not ask for US mediation: Habibullah


The most serious damage that Habibullah inflicts on India's fair name is by his accusation that, like Pakistan, India too did not adhere to the UN resolutions of August 13, 1948 and January 5, 1949 advocating demilitarisation and a plebiscite thereafter to determine whether J&K should go India or Pakistan.


Now these two resolutions emphatically spell out the sequence of steps culminating in the plebiscite under UN auspices. All these steps were subjected to the first and foremost condition that Pakistan withdraws all its troops from J&K territory. Since Pakistan never fulfilled that condition, India just could never move on to other prerequisites of a plebiscite. Again, any expert on J&K should have known that. Instead of rushing to indict India, his India, in the matter, Habibullah should have looked up the US state department's secret archives on the subject -- surely available to him as one who had got a scholarship with USIP. He would then have found that Dean Rusk, US assistant secretary of state, had in fact upheld the legality of Kashmir's accession to India to a visiting British delegation in 1948. George Marshall, the then secretary of state, was also unwilling to challenge the legal validity of that accession or recognise Pakistan's presence in any part of the state before the plebiscite. Its only because of the scheming British who conjured a Soviet threat, stressed Islam's incompatibility with Communism and Kashmir's indispensability in Pakistan's defence that ultimately made the US disregard the Maharaja of J&K's accession to India and accept Pakistan's occupation of Kashmir's northern territories. (Narendra Singh Sarila in his edit page article in The Times of India, Mumbai, August 14, 2000).


Habibullah's report laments that Kashmir's 'economy is growing more and more slowly' and that 'the state's infrastructure is crumbling.' Since he is, as always, referring here only to the J&K state of India, the reality must be pointed out that, in 2003, the reputed India Today magazine gave J&K the ninth overall rank among the then 17 big states of India, the classification being based on eight factors of macro-economic performance. Another reality is that, according to a report by G Venkatramani in The Hindu of October 8, 2004, India's J&K has only 3.48 percent of its population falling below the poverty line and its consumption of foodgrains is higher than the norm of 420 g per capita per day set by the Indian Council of Medical Research. What's more, the research foundation of the internationally renowned economist, M S Swaminathan, has drawn up a 15-point action plan that will achieve a poverty-free J&K by 2007. Clearly, the government of India's massive financial assistance for over a decade and the presence of a large number of security forces with families have helped create a large market and a generally benign economic ambience in the state -- without any foreign aid of significance.


However, one of USIP's intentions in engaging a reputed Kashmir hand like Habibullah for preparing a report at a time when Indo-Pak relations are in the midst of a thaw may well have been to create slots for a US role in J&K's affairs, economic and otherwise. And the man has delivered the goods, albeit quite comically at places.


Thus, while calling for a direct role for the US in encouraging the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank to provide low-interest loans in key areas of investment such as power generation, timber and food processing, the Habibullah report also states that 'the United States could engage the world's leading financial experts to help design multilateral investment programs.' The comic part is the recommendation that the Government of India's 'Ministry of Disinvestment could, in consultation with the World Bank, draw up a plan for channelling investment through private enterprise.' Dear, dear, if a senior civil servant of ours didn't know that our Communists had sent the disinvestment ministry packing even as he was writing his report, and that, in any case, 'disinvestment' meant only selling off government enterprises, god help USIP.


Similarly, Habibullah says US help to Pakistan in modernising its armed forces will enable Pakistan to achieve parity with India in the area of non-conventional warfare, encourage it to spend more on education and health care, rid Pakistan of the incubus of religion-based terrorism, restore a robust democracy in 'Kashmir,' undercut the rationale for unrest in 'Kashmir', and, thereby, presumably, facilitate a peaceful resolution of the 'Kashmir' conflict. As a formula for ultimate Indo-Pak peace, this one will take a lot of beating.



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