VATANI, did you first attend college or did you go straight from high school to the Army? If one had his "Lisans," what rank would he bear? Ostovar?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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My Basic training in the Australian Army reserves went for 7 weeks. Trained allong with full timers from start to finish.
Fun times ....yeah...
Seeing as im in the reserves follow up infantry training of two, two week courses gets you qualified as an infantrymen. SO its like another month all up after the seven weeks of basic.
Remember this is only for reserves, the second bit of training.
Were did you do your training Vatani?
Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)
They mean, “Come and get them!?They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie".
"Historical justice, however, obliges me to say that of the opponents that have taken up arms against us, MOST PARTICULARLY THE GREEK SOLDIERS, HAVE FOUGHT WITH THE GREATEST BRAVERY AND CONTEMPT OF DEATH. They only capitulated when further resistance became impossible and therefore useless"
Adolf Hitler
May 4th 1941, Reichstag, Berlin
Greeks are born not manufactured, we do not chose we are chosen, those who understand need no explanation, those who don't, don't matter...
Alexander of Macedonia, Leader of Hellas, and liberater of the Hellenic cities of Asia Minor, he spread the superior culture of Greece to all, resulting in the progression of humanity.
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I see. Thanks for the info. That made me upset. That's not even an officer ranking, is it? Is there any guarantee they will keep you after your two years of conscription are done? What are the chances that they will promote you to, say, Sotvan?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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issa, ostavar dovom is cosider afsari in iranian army, promotion becomes purely political at some point through your service...now adays most people who go into artesh are purely to get hired and stay as proffesional soldiers...the conscripts in artesh are less but there are now more conscripts in sepah...
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"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:13 AM
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Wow, that's pretty high. Wouldn't a Sar Gord command a battalion?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:13 AM
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Gorohban is the same as American Seargent, right? Another question, dear VATANI: If I were Ostovar Dovom, would I be commissioned?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:13 AM
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i didnt know what commisioned meant but i looked it up and it seems that yes you would be commissioned..if your in university contact the artesh attache at your school for more information..
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Thanks. This has been helpful. One last question: Where is the nearest recruiting station to Elahiye?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:14 AM
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Thank you, VATANI. I am actually mo'af from conscription (my parents are divorced and I live with my mother). I can still join out of choice, though, right?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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I see. After meeting with them, how long will it take until I am admitted into the Army?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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honestly you know how things are in iran there is no saying how long...the building is like a zoo theyll send you all over and you have to line up all your school and medical paperwork which takes a while...i went straight in after high school so it was a matter of weeks
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"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:14 AM
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Thank you VATANI jan I appreciate your kind words. By the way, were you deployed along the Afghani border? Did you see some action against al-Qaeda?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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we never fought at really close distances, we called in artillery a lot,,,one time a villager pulled out a kelashnikov right as i turn my head towards him, i hit him once in the head with the butt of my rifle and knock him out.. thats the most damage ive done to a person thanks god i never actually had to shoot anyone..although i did return fire on a jeep that was a mortar spotter for attacks on our army garrison...the guy survived though
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I see. Did the Kurds generally sympathize with the PKK or more with you guys?
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:15 AM
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I see. Thank you for your great input. And God bless you for your service to the motherland.
"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
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My training for my service in the greek AF included 4 weeks of basic training and 4 weeks specialty training (I was an AirForce MP). Basic training I found very boring and meaningless after the first week, MP-training was much better and more demanding.
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If so are you an Iranian Greek? whats the story compatriot'?
Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)
They mean, “Come and get them!?They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie".
"Historical justice, however, obliges me to say that of the opponents that have taken up arms against us, MOST PARTICULARLY THE GREEK SOLDIERS, HAVE FOUGHT WITH THE GREATEST BRAVERY AND CONTEMPT OF DEATH. They only capitulated when further resistance became impossible and therefore useless"
Adolf Hitler
May 4th 1941, Reichstag, Berlin
Greeks are born not manufactured, we do not chose we are chosen, those who understand need no explanation, those who don't, don't matter...
Alexander of Macedonia, Leader of Hellas, and liberater of the Hellenic cities of Asia Minor, he spread the superior culture of Greece to all, resulting in the progression of humanity.
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Sorry re got confused with you and vatani when i posted, didnt see it was diferent ppl lol, me the malaka.
Story i wanted to know is as are you born raised etc in Greece and done your service or are you Greek from another country and went there to serve?
Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)
They mean, “Come and get them!?They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie".
"Historical justice, however, obliges me to say that of the opponents that have taken up arms against us, MOST PARTICULARLY THE GREEK SOLDIERS, HAVE FOUGHT WITH THE GREATEST BRAVERY AND CONTEMPT OF DEATH. They only capitulated when further resistance became impossible and therefore useless"
Adolf Hitler
May 4th 1941, Reichstag, Berlin
Greeks are born not manufactured, we do not chose we are chosen, those who understand need no explanation, those who don't, don't matter...
Alexander of Macedonia, Leader of Hellas, and liberater of the Hellenic cities of Asia Minor, he spread the superior culture of Greece to all, resulting in the progression of humanity.
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I was born in Greek, lived all my life here except for my years at the university, then came back to serve. I served in Tripoli (basic training and one week specialty training), Elliniko (3 weeks specialty training), Crete (5 months) and the rest in Athens (AirForce military court and AirForce HQ). Now I live in Athens
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I have heard that for Greeks out of Greece, like me born and raised in Australia for example, the service is getting cut from six months service to three months next year.
Is that true?, if so could i do my service in the Air Force?
I have been an Australian soldier for three years, would'nt mind a change, ie do Air Force instead of Army.
Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)
They mean, “Come and get them!?They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie".
"Historical justice, however, obliges me to say that of the opponents that have taken up arms against us, MOST PARTICULARLY THE GREEK SOLDIERS, HAVE FOUGHT WITH THE GREATEST BRAVERY AND CONTEMPT OF DEATH. They only capitulated when further resistance became impossible and therefore useless"
Adolf Hitler
May 4th 1941, Reichstag, Berlin
Greeks are born not manufactured, we do not chose we are chosen, those who understand need no explanation, those who don't, don't matter...
Alexander of Macedonia, Leader of Hellas, and liberater of the Hellenic cities of Asia Minor, he spread the superior culture of Greece to all, resulting in the progression of humanity.
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My basic training was 3 and a half weeks, followed by a more advanced form of basic called Soldier Qualification which was another 3 and a half weeks (This all used to be taught in one 7 week course, but they split it up for some reason) followed by another 5 weeks for my trade course (Armoured Reconnaissance)
So in total, 12 weeks training to qualify as an armoured recce reservist.
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Yup, the Navy really has some long training times. As much as they are lucky to be on a nice warm ship, as opposed to a rainy mud hole, they certainly make up for it with the amount of training they go through.
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I have heard something similar too. It must be in the new law, currently to be voted in the Parliament, but it isn't signed yet.
AFAIK, you can apply for joining the AF, but I doubt whether it will be approved, especially since you will only serve for a very limited time. If you are really interested in it, you can ask at the consulate or have someone ask here at the Stratologiko Grafeio for a definite answer.
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Thanks for the info, i suppose if it changes to 3 months instead of six to do the AF you probably have to serve longer.
See what happens i will find out soon when i go over the next year.
Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)
They mean, “Come and get them!?They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie".
"Historical justice, however, obliges me to say that of the opponents that have taken up arms against us, MOST PARTICULARLY THE GREEK SOLDIERS, HAVE FOUGHT WITH THE GREATEST BRAVERY AND CONTEMPT OF DEATH. They only capitulated when further resistance became impossible and therefore useless"
Adolf Hitler
May 4th 1941, Reichstag, Berlin
Greeks are born not manufactured, we do not chose we are chosen, those who understand need no explanation, those who don't, don't matter...
Alexander of Macedonia, Leader of Hellas, and liberater of the Hellenic cities of Asia Minor, he spread the superior culture of Greece to all, resulting in the progression of humanity.
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AFAIK, all conscripts serve the same time, regardless of belonging in the Army,Navy or AF.
One used to serve +2 months in the AF and +4 in the Navy compared to the Army, but this doesn't apply any more. All conscripts serve 12 months now, AFAIK. There has been talks about reducing the number for the Army to 11 months, but nothing definite yet.
But the above isn't definite, if you really want to serve in Greece, only the military authorities can give you a definite answer.
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"We will write our own military manuals, which the Americans, British, and French can study in their staff colleges."
-Colonel Behrouz Soleimani, Deputy Commander of the Iranian 21st Infantry Division, following the Liberation of Khorramshahr
"If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them."
-Mohammad Khatami
"The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents.”
-Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi, on American claims that an Iranian laptop they had captured contained evidence that Iran was producing a nuclear warhead
This message has been edited by Davari on Jan 16, 2006 8:16 AM
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my whole training took a 1 year and 8 months, at the end of it I recieved the unit's pin.
it included 4 months of basic training with another 2 months of unit's basic training, all in all 6 months of boot camp. alot of nevigating, recon cours, a more advanced recon course, commanders course that was included for all the members of the teams as part of the training, and more nevigating in between- most of them nevigating with weight.
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If you are of similar ranks, then you can ride eachother till hell breaks loose. I knew female officers with male seargents or less, but thats less common. When you are in basic training there is a 40 cm law that you cant get closer than this. No one really gives a damn about this law, especially since in many divisions Men and Women undergo basic training together.
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"I have heard that for Greeks out of Greece, like me born and raised in Australia for example, the service is getting cut from six months service to three months next year.
Is that true?, if so could i do my service in the Air Force?
I have been an Australian soldier for three years, would'nt mind a change, ie do Air Force instead of Army."
tssss... Very difficult to get in AF without connections or long term service. As for the lenth of time you will serve, it has changed so much that as sjmygian said only the authorities can give you a 60% accurate answer. Probably for all now it is 12 months. They go by... and then you miss it after you cursed it
PS. gia sou re sjmygian! yiati se lene xazo-xoriati edo re; 8es na tous sxisoume;;
As for training, the standard stuff - plota, anorthodokso/nukterino polemo, b'klimakia, lemonou, skopies/peripolous, askiseis, pyrofulaki, Parmenion, voles kai poreies. kai vevea tis standard aggareies (at least when I was there. My cousin who is now serving sais that things are super-loufa. No moral, no discipline, everythin on thier balls...).
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3 month of Marine Corp boot camp, 1 3 weeks of infantry training, and 3 month of mechanical training
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I served as an conscript in Hellenic Air Force for 20 months (tripoli training center for 2 months and then 18 in Tanagra AFB as an Mirage F-1CG mechanic) after that till now i joined again and i serve as an subofficer (5 years in Mirage F-1CG again and then in helicopters AB-205 B-212 SUPER PUMA)
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I went through 19 weeks total for basic training and school for MP. All was done at one time! I found it to be really challenging and fun. It taught me alot.
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