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Seeking information about Ralph Cohen

July 7 2007 at 2:00 PM
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Purported to be a top trader in the World.

 
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will
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Re: Seeking information about Ralph Cohen

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July 7 2007, 10:29 PM 


Vindeer,

There are several Ralph Cohens around and as for being a top trader

in the world, I think that that is pure joker Broker Bull....

Understand the business.

It is Borrower to Underwriter/Dealer to Broker(Registered) to Lender.

Lender to Broker( Registered/Institutional) to End Buyer.

There is no Trader and there is a lot more to it and this does not

cover Retail.

Here are 2 Ralph Cohens for your perusal.

will

http://www.micropower.co.uk/council/cohen.html>

http://www.advfn.com/news_Appointment-of-Director_12921049.html>

http://www.medfac.usyd.edu.au/people/academics/profiles/rcohen.php>



    
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EagleUNOS
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Top Trader??

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July 8 2007, 5:02 AM 

Will,.. I seconded that.

Top trader ... too wide a spectrum.

It could be top trader of toilet papers, waste papers, steel, wood, crude etc...
Got to be more specific.

Mail me direct off-board and I shall provide a clue or two in how to determine whether he is among the club.

 
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Bluebadboy
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Ralph Cohen

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July 8 2007, 10:31 AM 

If this is Ralph Cohen connected to PB Trading or CDM in australia, then stay well clear. This is a bogus individual. Claims to have accounts in UBS will lease funds for a fee and you will get bogus papers which are totally unusable


    
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ddrep
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Still looking for information

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July 9 2007, 8:11 PM 

If you still looking for information about Ralph Cohen please check this Link:

http://p198.ezboard.com/Elfort-Holdings/fthediligizeriiboardfrm8.showMessage?topicID=188.topic

Hope the information will help you.

DDrep
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your DD

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July 9 2007, 9:36 PM 

When using just a name for a DD you will never get far.  There is for example a Ralph Cohen , who is a managing partner at  SJ Berwin LLP and he is a very good lawyer. There are all kind of people who have that name; just read Finger to the Wind at http://www.fingertothewind.com/Spammer%20Heaven.htm.

A man who purports himself as "top trader in the World" just does not need any due diligence anymore, he is already classified by himself as someone you do not want to do business with anyway, but never mind.... you may find he has a different name anyway


 
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bluebadboy
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ralph Cohen

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July 12 2007, 4:19 AM 

We are actively pursuing Ralph Cohen but no one seems to know his whereabout. We even have Us Attorney generals office visit a New York address that he uses on Paper. We believe him to be in Switzerland, but we are closing fast. We have now ensured that 3 of the people closest to him cannot move.


ddrep we have read the posts today thanks, can you supply an address for Cohen, even a business address or are you another cohort of his.

 
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Re: ralph Cohen

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July 12 2007, 9:32 AM 

bluebadboy:

Sorry. I found only this information about Ralph Cohen. I never been in contact with this gentleman.

Regards
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not sure it is worth the effort

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July 12 2007, 2:18 PM 

I'm not sure it is worth the effort, especially when looking at the track record of political decicions of the prosecutors office you are talking to. More than once they just closed the door to files which had all the details and proof and data and decided not to prosecute because they assessed the people who lost money as either "deserved what they got" or "a bunch of greedy foreigners" and so on.

anyway, good luck


 
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bluebadboy
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ralph Cohen

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July 13 2007, 2:13 PM 

If we all felt like you no crooks would be brought to account. Are you saying you have never been conned by anyone in the finance Market, because all your posts seem to indicate that you are the Worlds foremost expert on every matter from Russian d2 to private placement programs.

for you info such programs DO EXIST and i know an entity who is being paid regularly from such a PPP. Sadly i do not have to required funds nor am I able to solicit such funds, because that is also against the regulations of the body to whom I am accredited.

 
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ahem

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July 13 2007, 4:33 PM 

Now my friend, it is not that way, I have my experience and no I am not the world's foremost expert, its just that at this point in my life I have handled a bit more diverse business than most of the people frequenting this forum, thats all, I'm a voice under many and readily available to learn something new (yes it is difficult to teach an old dog but I ask you to try anyway).

 

My assessment on Mr. Cohen and his similar breathren is that we invite people to take advantage of our mistakes and wrong points of view. They do confidence crime and yes it is wrong to let them go away with it but frankly it does not make sense to throw good money after bad money. People usually do that when money is not an issue, either they do have enough of it or they have been made so angry that they go to any length to get the culprit. The first ones who have the money and do not care are usually the ones who pay the higest price in money because they just change the party which takes advantage of them (first it is the scam artist, then the lawyer and then there is a judgement , a lot of fees and no recovery, sometimes someone goes to jail but it is usually a minor thing). The later, who goes after the criminal because he feels frustrated, offended, taken advantage off, his honor and standing down and all that beside the money, is the one who pays the price 3 times, less in money because thats usually gone but by exposure of his own gullibility and the bad experience he suffers with justice.

In my opinion the party which lost all is looked at badly because he or she has shown bad common sense and the judges look at this as a sort of invitation to the scam artist. Thats wrong from my understanding but nevertheless I have seen it often. People like Mr. Cohen (if he is a scam artist, which I do not know, but you can replace his name with others) are usually very intelligent, have the experience in their business and are very sharp in regards of how they attack their query. Since governments only pay so much to their prosecutors, they do not get the brightest in regards of commercial transactions, especially cross border (its gotten better but still not good, even with the amount of lawyers without jobs the difference in payment is large, a good international financial lawyer in my books makes above 500.000,00 USD a year after 2 to 3 years) and so the quarry you want to attack is difficult. In addition a lot of prosecutors have limited language ability and can not afford to put the time in, because frankly there are only so many hours a day.

 

I feel that to keep an eye out on the quarry, taking your time, and moving slowly and silently with friends you make on the way, gets the scam artist more effectively and revenge is food best eaten cold, so take your time.

I have helped a lot of people back up after they got scammed and I learned to rely on networking  with reliable friends and partners and reaching out. The application of good common sense and carefull assessment of business oportunities helps. I'm known in my network as Dr. No because I more likely say no before I say yes, therefore I only see some of the transactions but I'm always called when things go downhill. It is not that I've never been scamed, probably a couple of times I did not get it till it was to late, some probably claim I never got it, but some I got. It is a way of live that you run into people who see an opportunity to take advantage.

The reason I'm around is that I had help and assitance, I kept my mind open and learned from my peers and every once and a while got a big bad kick in my derriere from my seniors (both over the phone and in reality) I've been on the principal side, the broker side, the broker broker side, the assitant side and so on and you learn. The today internet allows you to access a lot of different input much faster than in the old days but still you have to understand and sort and it is easier to do so when you have a good real life education.

So thats why I'm saying to the defrauded that he should first contentrate to learn the leasson from the fraud, then apply the lesson to avoid future exposure, then rebuild the business and then keep a longterm eye out for the culprit and built a case to expose him with a final agenda of bringing him down. I understand the hunt, do not misunderstand that, I sometimes relished hunting the 2 legged culprit with all resources I had at my disposal and some regreted to cross me, but thats a revenge side and adrenalin junky side, which is not good for business if the hunting is not the only business you do ( sadly I have to accept the charge that I had a time that was my 100% paid job and I was good at it).

Let me tell you, life goes on after the fraud and you better life it when shooting the trouble maker is at a lower number of your priorities list (never mind keep the gun ready just in case)

 

Now in regard s of investment opportunities, there are all kind available for the low amounts of money to the high amounts of money. I never said private transactions do not exist. That would be foolish because I have them on my table all day, I'm saying there are many misconceptions about their risk, structure and handling and mechanics and that most of them do not exist through private brokers. I have also the problem that most people who try to deal in them and are not institutional investors or regulated brokers have no idea about the associated legal structures.

I'm probably a bit far from the day to day business but I remember the need to succeed in the early days of my professional carreer (bills need to be paid) and so I also remember my mistakes, so the only thing I'm doing here is to hint from my perspective, which I openly say may not be yours and you can take it as you will.

 

Just as a finish, never mind what I say above, I have learned that having big guns on board minimizes the exposure to fraud (beside the most sophisticated and the most dumb) and enhances your chances to get a shot at the culprit. It also helps to talk through the vineyard of financial services, it gets things done faster than through the law and the effect is sometimes immediate.

Good luck!


 
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Re: ahem

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July 13 2007, 7:53 PM 

Normally I would never comment such a personal and private remark as made by Mr. Ludwig but in this case…
I have never seen anyone from the industry say, in such a modest but straight way, how it is.
Mr. Ludwig I like your style and while reading between the lines anyone, with a sense of the old handshake-business-style, can see that this was from the heart.


    
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will
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'Self serving Interest"

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July 13 2007, 11:48 PM 



Bulebadboy,

Richard as usual in his aged wisdom is in my opinion is right,

You have to realise that enforceing the law is not necessarily possible

and to be hoodwinked by Cohen or anyone else for that matter

is the fault of the investor himself or herself.

Had they had taken the trouble to dive a little deeper in their Due D,

spend time and effort to learn the business of PPP, it would not have

happened.

Ultimately the decision to go ahead on any transaction, fake or not,lies

with investor and often the decision is made on greed and self interest.

Wild claims of 30% returns weekly, 40 weeks X xxx amoumt and billions

in profits, blah blah blah,.....

Most loose sight of reality and common sense goes out the window.

You are right to say that PP exists, but it is not for everyone and

anyone.

The barrier of entry itself is detterent enough.

will

 
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