Investing,

As of late I have seen a lot more investing into tangibles like gold, diamonds, silver and before the oil run crude oil, D-2 and so on. This leads me to believe that the real forecasters push the people this way long ago, when they saw the real estate bubble coming to the end.

Yes Will, we have not seen the worst of this fall out as of yet but it is nearing. I have clients ( and yes I have a lot of them) are moving there monies out of stocks and bonds to more solid investments like secondary markets the ones above. Others are moving more capital into private investing or funding trusts.

Now were do the Private Trust get the bulk of there capital in trading programs such as PPP’s and Buy / Sells. Which after chasing down hundreds of different programs I have finally found a good group and programs to work with. So my question is how come I see all of these posts that there isn’t a program out there that works?

Next is anyone have a complete understanding in the tax credits from doing green energy?

these things do not grant access to people who run around, you are looking at the wrong places, and frankly there is a indeed a lot of people looking at the markets and try to find ways to keep their money and stay in profits, whatever it takes. A good money manager makes money in up or down markets.

Richard,
Your point is and was taken but, the key word in your statement is ( GOOD ) money manger. Plus the fact that the investors are looking for more then a single digit profit. Please remember these investors were uses to 15 to 18% on there moneys monthly working through hedge funds and there looking for more. Either to make up for what they lost in the end or know some one that has completed a trade program of some kind being US or Euro. So since the Wall Street is a dangerous right now, futures are always a risk takers game , hedge funds are doing nothing nor putting any capital to work like they where. So i just can some it up to just one word greed and worries of the economy not bouncing back where the Euro markets are doing every well.

the double digits with secure capital are still possible and there are even deals out there who guarantee the return without the investor to go into dangerous water

Chad:

I agree with your statement that Wall Street or Futures are a very instable Market at the moment. But and as Richard told already. Good Money Market Trader earning excellent ROI not only on bullish market as also bearing market.

For any Investor or Fund Management who do have Share Portfolios and need to "hedge" it against temporally fluctuation are able to work with Margen Trade Accounts but what in fact is not available for US Citizen or Corporation.

Margen Trade over Stock Shares are exist since more than 10 years and starting in the UK by following Australia. At this moment you can have access to a Contracts for more than 4.000 Public Traded Shares included UK, Spain, France, German, Austria, Italia, Swiss, US, Australia and Japan Stock Market and you can open even Long or Short. You have to open an Account at least with EURO 2.500 up and they will give you access to their online electronic platform. Orders will be execute inmediatly and you will trade on Real Time pricing at 1:1.

Greetings
TW

DDrep,
Thank you for your your advice but, i just had one of my clients in the southern area on the country just pass compliance and his first week in the PPP made him high in the double digits on his money in one week and will go for sevreal more weeks. Now I have a larger Calf. hedge fund and a Private investing Trust that are in the process of compliance to start a PPP. Which will be using the profits to move in to a 500MM Buy / Sell.

Next have client needing to find property that has storage tanks on they to by in the southern areas of the country to store a commodity that he has purchased.

Thank you

Chad:

Welcome. I thought also to post the information as a "General" Advice so that actually members as also new members/visitors are informed about.

Regards
TW

Chad,

For your own self preservation, be careful as what has been described by you

seem unliklely.

I am not saying that it is a scam, but in my mind, it seems like you

may be getting into or gotton into an improper business.

Caution is required and I recommend that you get proper legal councel

and one who is familar with this business.

Try Wedlake bell in London.

They are not cheap but definitely good in their work.

will

Will please contact me off board diamondcrest@q.com to chat about this.
Thank you.

clearverbiage@lycos.com

I am not DDrep.

Here is why people want trading programs over US investments,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/06/16/bcnecb116.xml

http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-22-is-available!-Global-systemic-crisis-September-2008-Phase-of-collapse-of-US-real-economy_a1298.html

http://www.bankingtimes.co.uk/09062008-central-bank-body-warns-of-great-depression/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/06/18/cnrbs118.xml

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=alYak4riQl0c&refer=home

not just one , but sevreal reasons.

It is a bone of contention with this poster regarding US banking system and the claims laid in its favour by many posters here.

Before you consider such investment outside of the US for your clients, I advise you to get the best SEC lawyer you can hire in the US. The amount of red tape, regulations you will have to overcome is simply nonsensical. These regulations are specifically geared to maintain the dollar within the US.

You will find that the movement of dollars from the US to so called investments within Europe will not be as easy as you think.

Then this bring us to the scammers who will offer you:-

1. Ping programmes.

2. Trade over your account.

3. letters of guarantee.

4. Joint ventures on an established credit line where your bank will be requested to underwrite such a scheme,

Try explaining all these to a US banker,

There is only one genuine way to move money from the US in large amounts and to be secure in what you are doing. Contact me off board and I will explain the situation to you. Sorry there will be no fee for the information. Just solid advice.

Finally there are good investments outside of the US and Will here asked me re an existing investment in which we participated and he was informed that the investment was a success and we are being paid monthly, together with a guarantee on our capital.

I have read in another thread Richard commenting on Guarantee returns. There are many banks in the European Union who will offer you a minimum of 108 for your cash and if you push them hard enough you will get a 110 guarantee. The European banks are marketing hard for cash investment and in return will give you a good return. Push them even harder and you may get 'bonus' payments from them.

Hey Chad DeRousse, FDP Capital, THOMAS J. KENT JR. & Brad Robinson. You guys belong in prison fraudsters. FDP Capital is not registered with the SEC or FINRA they do not have any money and neither dose Chad. Don't believe their lies, you send the money to any of them and kiss it goodbye. No Funding for your project your money is gone, then they will stop returning all your calls and you are left with a tone of false promises. Do not do business with any of them they will lie and post additional lies to cover there tracks so they can get more money from their victims don't become a new victim you have bean warned. My clients lost lots of money and others I know to all of these CON-MEN!!!!!!!!!! Here is more below to prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who was defrauded by any of these individuals or company's feel free to email us anytime.

john123035-bank@yahoo.com



FDP - look them and you up on Rip-off Report and here is what I found:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/312/ripoff0312517.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/312/ripoff0312517.htm#293955




http://www.mortgagegrapevine.com/thread/?thread=505787




Chad DeRousse Arrest Video



Video: 3 Arrested In Connection With Fraud Case



http://www.kptv.com/news/19148392/detail.html

3 Arrested In Connection With Fraud Case
POSTED: 9:34 am PDT April 10, 2009
UPDATED: 9:58 am PDT April 10, 2009
VANCOUVER, Wash. -- FBI agents searched a home and arrested three people in connection with a scam that took thousands of dollars from people living in southwest Washington.
FBI agents arrested Chad DeRousse at a Vancouver home Thursday. One neighbor said the agents took his home computer as they served a search warrant in the morning. They also took several weapons from the home.
While agents served the warrant on DeRousse's home they were also in Camas at the home of Alyson and Darcy Start.
The U.S. Attorney General's Office said the three have been under investigation for several months.

The three made their first court appearance Thursday in a federal court on charges of mail and wire fraud.
Most of DeRousse's friends and family refused to answer questions about the case, but one friend believe he's not guilty and that DeRousse would never break the law.
The FBI said the three will likely be transferred to a federal detention center later this week.
The three individuals face several charges that include 17 counts of conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud and 16 counts of actually committing wire fraud.






http://www.columbian.com/article/20090410/NEWS02/904109993/0/FRONTPAGE

FBI arrests three charged with large loan scams
About $1 million was stolen, says indictment
Friday, April 10 | 6:12 p.m.

JOHN BRANTON,
COLUMBIAN STAFF WRITER

Three Clark County residents are in federal custody in Sea-Tac, after being arrested Thursday by the FBI and charged with defrauding business operators out of more than $1 million in advance fees for commercial loans that were not provided.

Darcy and Alyson Start, who live at 20320 S.E. Fernridge Drive on Camas Prune Hill, have been charged with conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud, according to their indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Tacoma.
Also charged in the same indictment was Chad Derousse, 12613 N.E. Ninth St., in Vancouvers Fircrest neighborhood.

The three are accused of working together, out of their homes, to cheat more than 20 people or businesses.

The Starts allegedly operated companies they called Advanced Lending Solutions Inc., Rocket Processing Inc., and Imperial Acquisitions and Holdings, using Web sites to advertise their ability to obtain loans.

Advanced Lending was incorporated here in December 2004, and the alleged conspiracy started "no later than January 2006," the indictment says.

Derousse is accused of operating Diamond Crest Consulting Corp., with his Web site claiming: "We work with over 100 Class A lenders," and saying he could arrange loans ranging from $1 million to $10 billion.

The defendants allegedly failed to obtain the loans and kept the advance fees, totaling more than $1 million, for their own use, in a number of local bank accounts.

The FBI traced about 17 wire transfers ranging from $3,500 to $250,000, the indictment said.

If the U.S. attorneys allegations in the indictment are true, it appears similar to the type of recession-related crime that President Barack Obama described Thursday in a White House briefing, according to whitehouse.gov:

"Last point we want to make as people have become aware that the government is helping to promote refinancing, were starting to see some scam artists out there who are contacting people saying, you can refinance your home, the government has got a program, were ready to help oh, but by the way, first youve got to pay some money. I just want everybody who is watching today to know that if somebody is asking you for money up front before they help you with your refinancing, its probably a scam."

The local matter surfaced after loan-seekers complained to the Vancouver Police Department. Police then asked the FBI to take the investigation.

The defendants are being held in the Federal Detention Center in Sea-Tac.

On Monday at 10:30 a.m., there will be a detention hearing in U.S. District Court in Tacoma, said Emily Langlie, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorneys Office in Seattle. A judge will decide whether to keep the defendants in custody before the trial.

The indictment describes a kind of bait and shuffle among the three as their customers tried to learn whether their loans had been obtained or demanded that their fees be refunded.

"It was further part of the conspiracy that, on occasion, and for the purpose of deceiving the victims and lulling said victims into a false sense of security, Darcy Start, Alyson Start and Chad Derousse would falsely report to the victims that they had, in fact, obtained financing."

When a victim called and asked to speak with Darcy Start, Alyson Start said he was "out on business," the indictment alleges.

"In or about January 2008, Chad Derousse told (a victim) that he should never call Rocket Processing again because it could jeopardize their deal," the indictment said.

Between April 2007 and December, the Starts allegedly took their ill-gotten cash to casinos in Washington and Nevada and gambled with several hundred thousand dollars.

The indictment also seeks forfeiture of the defendants real or personal property that can be traced to the alleged conspiracy.

John Branton: 360-735-4513 or john.branton@columbian.com.

Guess Chad's PPP meant SHAM