I will return in due time after finishing my gathering of info on this man.The information so far is very interesting,and dissapointing, and my apologies at katchit08 for ever doubting his intensions.You were right!After all..Proper DD takes a while...



Let this be a warning sign if anyone is involved with this man, and his minion, Donald Peyton .Stay away!!!!Only time you will waste around them.



They have nothing they claim to have....





Details are avail....



modjo

He dropped my client's $220 billion project, and gave NO explanation and he's been impossible to reach on the phone for three weeks now. He has completely vanished and his lawyer refuses to speak to me -- his lawyer!!!

Modjo, please send what you have. I'm at wit's end here!!!! I've gotten about ten phone calls in the last 48 hours from people who had $10,000 fees to do and I don't know what to do!!!!

mystchaoscat@yahoo.com

The problem went into existence because the man was linked to a rather secretive network through 2 brokers and misrepresented himself and got cut off by the brokers, who in turn got cut of by the principals and then instead of being open and admitting defeat they went on and beside wasting other peoples money and time violated a bunch of laws and regulations. files with them even if good are not going anywhere but to the local bin

Can you email details on this? Would appreciate it.

Paul

Guys,

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/New-Port-Richey/f-e-energia-inc-5993385.aspx

And

http://donald-peyton-victims.2wsinc.net/

Try adding these names to your diligence

Judge Joseph E Ashmore from Dallas
Allan Clarke his sidekick from Dallas
Roger Cole from London
Jean-marie Michels a broker from Brussels who was working for the group on the pretence that he was connected direct to the US

Or simply go straight to ABM AMRO head office in Holland, investigative department.give them the names and sit back and be amazed what you will be told.

Well, ABM AMRO has been a bit sleazy the past few years, from my understanding. I was told by a brokerage firm I visited once that they NEVER do paper business with these guys anymore and word has gotten around, I think. I sure haven't seen anything coming from them lately but didn't they merge or something anyway?

This Peyton site just shows that he's a sleazy lawyer. Most of them are. :-D Would he REALLY get so involved in something that could ultimately get him disbarred though?

Paul

Paul, it is not ABN AMRO who was/is sleazy but the jokerbrokers who attempted to corrupt their paperwork.

Have you ever seen ABN AMRO charged with fraud/attempted fraud, like other banks, Well I haven't though knowing this forum, I am probably about to proven wrong.

However I maintain that it was the JB scene which caused the illfounded reputation of ABM AMRO, and despite this it still remains a very strong bank and one the I would do business with should the opportunity present itself.

who would you prefer ABN or UBS

I think I CAN prove you wrong. There was an incident late last summer, maybe early spring, featuring ABM AMRO in some kind of hanky panky with bank instruments. I don't know all the details, but it involved a lot of fake bank officers from fake offices and they got untold millions just passing themselves off as legit ABM people. I hope someone can research this - I just remember it was a topic of conversation last year here.

Paul

Paul, you just confirmed what BBB posted. The fraud comes from fake ABN AMRO bankers and not from the bank itself.



Quoting your own post....



fake bank officers from fake offices and they got untold millions just passing themselves off as legit ABM people.



End of quote.





Trb

I read someplace that ABM AMRO was heavily INVOLVED in the scam itself. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm wrong here. This is one of the reasons they were up for sale or merged last year.

Paul

Paul, you have been misadvised. ABN were never on the market for sale, they were the subject of a buyout by several major institutions, ie. Barclays, Santander and RBSI.

The takeover/buyout never materialised because of the start of the credit crunch, Yes Paul, it was known within banking circles for a long time before anyone decided to take action on the collapsing market.

ABN has survived and is fully protected now by its Government.

Please do not listen to these stories, ABN are very open and have a division in New York in their legal department who are quite open to discuss these smears re dodgy paper and dodgy officers. What bank has not fallen foul of such idiots and fraudsters.

Believe me when I tell you, the banks are unknowing players in these scams and should you come across something you believe to be a scam, contact their legal division, tell them the truth about how you came across the paper or offer, and that you are completing your diligence. You will be amazed at their honesty in helping.

It is these type of scammers which cause the creation of forums such as this, and thankfully those type of scams are dropping. BY making all instruments electronic they have eliminated 75 percent of frauds, now they are simply working against the fraudsters who claim to control funds in other peoples account. No doubt they will eventually find the way to control this avenue.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Paul

Paul:

do you really think ABN AMRO does not have the brain power to cover their tracks through special structures; everything they do is legal, it may be borderline sometimes but it is within their regulatory framework and they pick the subsidiary which is used if the bank itself can not do it, these people are pro's and a delight to work with; they kick your behind if you are not on the same level but what else is new in shark pool when you get to an ORCA.

"Paul, you have been misadvised. ABN were never on the market for sale, they were the subject of a buyout by several major institutions, ie. Barclays, Santander and RBSI.

The takeover/buyout never materialised because of the start of the credit crunch, Yes Paul, it was known within banking circles for a long time before anyone decided to take action on the collapsing market.

ABN has survived and is fully protected now by its Government. "

Sorry gents, but the above post is incorrect. The take over of ABN Amro did take place by a consortium of RBS, Fortis and Santander. The stake bought by Fortis is now wholly by the Dutch Govt, and technically you could say that the part owned by RBS is now semi-owned by the UK government.

ABN Amro are still trading as a very reuptable bank, however a lot o fthe old email addresses at ABN Amro Capital Market have have change to end rbs.com

I was NOT hearing things when I heard about AMRO's woes. :-D

That's something to keep an eye out for now though. If you should get an email from a supposed AMRO official, the domain better say "rbs.com". :-D

Paul

Paul, unless they are from the part that Fortis bought, and then it might say something like @Dutchgovernment.com Hahaha

It could read, "Dutchgovernment@yahoo.com"

:- )

Can someone please explain how a query re Earl Wescom has turned into a subject decrying ABN AMRO

I suppose when someone doesn;t have an idea re the original subject it must be an ego thing to simply respond.

I believe ABN AMRO to be as honest a bank as most, which is more that one can say for Wescom and associates.

Mr Kid if you have information to the contrary on the subject's named Earl Wescom, I would be glad to read your comments. You seem by your posts to know everything. So perhaps you can share your knowledge on this subject.

Katchit

Sorry, i've never heard of Earl Wescom. I was just trying to point out that the info posted regarding the non-sale of ABN Amro was rather incorrect, and should be dismissed. I'm sure participants on this forum would like to think that the majority of information posted is reliable.

As a participant in capital markets, it pays for me to know what's going on! Plus we have traded with ABN Amro Capital Markets for a number of years. Their leveraged and delta-1 certificates are very good products for gaining instant exposure to many different asset classes. We have also traded with their Asset Management guys, who were due to be integrated into Fortis but that integration is now up in in the air with the Dutch government looking for a buyer and no current integration. The Capital Markets part of ABN Amro is now fully integrated with RBS.

Why not do us all a favor, quit talking in ****ing riddles, and explain exactly what you know about Earl Wescom?



That means EVERYTHING. No more ****ing puzzles. I've had it.



SPILL IT already. All you're doing is pissing me off now.



Paul

I am sure glad that I have achieved my aim with you. YOu are simply using this board for smart ass comments. YOu have contributed nothing substantive or of any interest to the forum.

By your own admission you know nothing about the paper business. If you need any inform on Earl Wescom read the posts that do mention his name, after that you pay for a good diligence service same as the rest of us.

So I am really glad that I have managed to show you up for what you are, anyone who has to swear or use kiddy terms to look like they are swearing are not worthy of my time or efforts.

So Mr. know-it-all we clash again, if you are going to quote from the ABN AMRO site quote all the extract not one that suits your needs.

Press Release24 Sep 2008
Squeeze out of ABN AMRO minority shareholders completed
On 22 September 2008, RFS Holdings B.V., the company incorporated by RBS, Fortis and Santander to acquire ABN AMRO Holding N.V. ("ABN AMRO"), completed the squeeze out of minority shareholders of ABN AMRO. As a result, RFS Holdings B.V. has now become the sole shareholder of ABN AMRO.


This has been superceeded now by the recent Government Investment

Future of ABN AMRO
ABN AMRO was acquired by the consortium of Fortis, RBS and Santander in October 2007. On 3 October 2008, the Dutch state announced that it has bought Fortis Netherlands, including its interests in ABN AMRO. The Dutch state de facto replaces Fortis as a stakeholder in RFS Holdings, which continues to manage ABN AMRO. RBS-bound businesses are not affected by this change.

The Dutch government's interest in ABN AMRO includes Business Unit Netherlands, Private Clients and the International Diamond & Jewelry Group, which are now completely separated from Fortis. Fortis's interests in ABN AMRO shared assets is also included in the acquistion by the government.

In the coming period the Dutch state will work together with the representatives of the acquired entities to decide on the best strategy to move forward. More information will be provided when it becomes available.


I stand by statement the bank was not placed on the market on open sale, because of any irregular business, or malicious reasons as Paul stated or any other reaons, this was simply a share buyout, which as we all have seen has happened all over the world in todays climate. I am not going to split hairs with you. Sadly like Katchit I was not amused by the swearing of Paul on this or any other forum. Considering he made a sweeping allegation re ABN AMRO he has never posted any facts to support his comments,

SO Paul to quote yourself, tell us all you know about the devious workings of ABN AMRO, not simple title tattle something that we can all investigate and seek the truth for ourselves that only you seem to know.

Hello Mr No-Idea, I think you'll find you said the takeover never materialised because of the credit crunch (check your post above). I was merely pointing out that the takeover did take place. You also said ABN Amro was now Government owned. This is partially right; The Dutch Government own the stake originally owned by Fortis.

I've not been a long term user of this forum, but I'm not a fan of seeing things that aren't true.

You have no ****ing idea what is going on with Earl Wescom and probably lost money because you blindly, and stupidly, followed his lead.

Okay, that clears up a lot. Maybe next time you'll be smarter. We can only hope. :-D

Paul

Like I said, anyone who has to use swear words to make a point is not worthy of respect or response.

YOur comments do not bother me and those who require the information only have to use my private email and they will be given what they require,

as for you, your a nobody who must swear to try to have a conversation. Go back to searching all the others forums where you seek answers and then come here for verification.

Funny how you appear so regularly on the Bradynet, usually the sign of jokerbrokers offering scams.

Katchit, I must protest. I'm hardly ever at Bradynet, and the fact that you seem to go there quite often suggests you must be a broker too.

And maybe if you were a hot-tempered Italian like me, you WOULD swear more. :-D

Paul

Posted by ScribesUnlimited (Saturday, March 11, 2006)
$200k needed ASAP for oil lease

Need $200k as soon as possible to take an oil lease off the market. This one-time investment will yield the investor 1.2% of $3.5 billion in oil. This has just come in; and we are not entirely sure of the current status, but from our last contact, this deal was still being executed and the leases must be held until the other investors reach an agreement.
Principles only, please. If you do not have the $200k liquid cash right now, please do not contact us. Further information will be made available once proof of funds has been established.

Call (216) 371-4752 or send an email with your interest and contact information to scribesunlimited@adelphia.net.

Paula and Paul
Scribes Unlimited
http://www.scribesunlimited.com
There are over 58 such entries from your company on brady

not including a large amount of your smartass responses.

suggest a boxing ring, not a public forum

have mercy please..............

When were YOU on Brady last, Katchit?

Last night? ROTFL!

Paul

Dont use brady or any other forum, when someone has to swear I found it necessary to do a little search to satisfy my curiosity and found our you were begging for money

read all the responses of how you were trying to scam clients, not my words, the words of the responders to your posts asking for money.

So obviously bradyposters know you better than this board. Perhaps thats why you left, you could not beg funds there anymore for your projects.

Now you on this forum looking for info on clients in whom you have no knowledge or involvement, seems a bit like sticking your nose in for the sake of a comment. Perhaps you tell the forum, what your interest is in Wescom, me I think it is simply being nosey and a requirement to satisfy your desire of smartass responses, seem to follow you all over the place,

Thankfully now that I have read all about you, I am glad I did not take the time to respond. As a matter of fact will now read through all your posts on this forum to see how many constructive posts you have offered against some sort of smartass response. be an interesting lesson, then again are you worth it, I ask myself. They may be full of illmannered responses full of swearing to make you feel like a man. Being an Italian is not excuse for rude and offensive language or behaviour. There is no excuse it simply sums up the person who writes it.

I was in posession of the full mandate.

They had great forecasts, however it was apparent that all they were trying to acheive was to scam the govt. (After being in possesion of the grant for this bio fuel project they were trying to start).

I hope no one got involved.

Didnt get as far as to know if this earl actually existed.

Will kosher beer and hot dogs be sold at the event?

TRB,

Make it Old Speckled Hen for the Ale and Bruehwurst in those dogs.

will