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PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

December 27 2008 at 7:16 AM
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  (Login Jacob_Foscale)
from IP address 81.208.36.86

Dear Sirs
We are direct to a platform and we have sometimes inquiries from clients
from this forum through brokers.

JANUARY 2009
- 40 weeks program with weekly payout.
- Funds remain in the clients own sole signatory account.
- After successful approval, client invited to a meeting with the trading group.
- Simple and safe procedure.
- Internal administrative block procedure or PING, under the full control of the
client at all times.
- Top 50 banks accepted with "soft" block.

- FOR > 100M$ clients it is possible to meet the trader immediately.
- FOR small(1M$ - 3M$) clients we have a small scale PPP which has performed smoothly on 2008 but
it is very important to submit application before Dec 31th or at least before Jan 5th to be able
to enter.

JacobFoscale@gmail.com

 
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Carlyformia
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Typical joker broker post

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December 27 2008, 10:55 AM 

I believe this joker got lost on his way to another forum and landed here by mistake.

I do not believe any reader of a forum such as this one would bother to contact a joker.

Pass.

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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December 27 2008, 12:17 PM 

I have an interest in seeing the structure of the platform offered.

Please feel free to respond publicly here in this form.

I also would like to know if there are safeties in place and what guarantees for success, if any?

Also how many happy clients do you have placed in this program?

Have you had clear cut success with this platform or is this the first time you have marketed this program?

Thank you for your time, in advance.

Sincerely, JW

 


 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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December 27 2008, 4:50 PM 

I had 3 successful clients till now. For 10M$+ investors
is easier to enter than for 1M$ investors.
Honestly I did not see a successful 1M$ client till now
but they told me it is possible especially sending the documents before
the end of 2008.
The platform is safe. No client complained about loss of
safety during the procedure. In the worst case it is a loss
of time if they can't enter out of some reason.
Believe me: real platforms don't have to
look for clients and unless you have more than 100M you are
not an important client.
Best Regards

 
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Carlyfornia
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I knew you would make a mistake and confess

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December 27 2008, 4:57 PM 

You stated:

1. That you have had 3 successful contracts (trades) at $10 million entry each. And then you go on saying, and I quote:

2. "Believe me: real platforms don't have to
look for clients and unless you have more than 100M you are not an important client."

So which is it?

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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December 27 2008, 5:19 PM 

It is unuseful to reply to somebody who labels you as joker broker
without any reason or explanation.
Anyway I did not write that the clients where 10M each
and I did not write AT ALL that only 100M clients can enter !
it looks like you are trying to find inconsistencies at all costs ...

 
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Your thoughts... if you please.

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December 27 2008, 8:54 PM 

I was hoping for more of a description of the product and a clearer picture of your participation, honestly.

The mechanics of the platform if you would be so kind as to walk me through the process I would like to have a handle on the product you are offering, prior to selecting you. If that luxury can be afforded me I would be truly grateful.

Sincerely, JW

 


 
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Carlyfornia
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JW

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December 27 2008, 9:35 PM 

JW,

Good question. However, in my opinion, "don't hold your breath." I do not believe a business like answer is coming your way from the original poster.

And by "business like answer" I mean; an answer that will make business sense.


 
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Maybe there is hope?

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December 27 2008, 10:08 PM 

I would have liked to give him a chance to present If only for his betterment, I am hopeful he will engage for his benefit. But I choose to be hopeful specifically when it comes to those less fortunate. Some would say that is an admirable trait, I would say giving the little guy a chance more often than not equates to No good deed goes un-punished.. But I hang in there ever hopeful.



    
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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December 28 2008, 8:38 AM 

I wrote even too much in this forum. You can contact me privately.
I decided to write because I loose time with broker chains. The investor should be ready and reactive. there are people who remain cash, ready to enter spot trades.
I don't want to teach or demonstrate anything. My (humble)knowledge comes from personal
relationships with people working in this field for more than 15 years.

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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December 29 2008, 1:50 PM 

I understand your point of view... many BS around. For skeptical people there is a program which gives a certificate of deposit from an important bank as a guarantee.
The yield is low but the procedure is as simple as buying a bond bank to bank.
easier than that I can't find anything ...

 
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To James Workman:

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January 1 2009, 5:30 PM 

If you'd like to discuss participation in a current trade program, by all means, get in touch with me. I like the attitude you've got, and I think I can help.

Paul

 
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Any updates on this subject?

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January 3 2009, 1:38 PM 

I am curious as to the outcome of this proposal.

Thanks,
Trb

 
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G_Kid
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 3 2009, 3:44 PM 

TRB, I think I can quite easily guess the outcome...



I think it prob beings in "B"...and ends in "ullsh1t"



happy.gif


    
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Well, he still has time...

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January 4 2009, 8:48 AM 

Desk closes in a month.

You out there, James?

Paul

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 4 2009, 10:42 AM 

Paul,

          I have an interest in seeing the structure of the platform offered.

Please feel free to respond publicly here in this form.

I also would like to know if there are safeties in place and what guarantees for success, if any?

Also how many happy clients do you have placed in this program?

Have you had clear cut success with this platform or is this the first time you have marketed this program?

Thank you for your time, in advance.

JW


 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 4 2009, 2:59 PM 

Dont hold your breath JW. He came to this board as a broker, every reply he makes is flippant and his recent post re hardship was not something designed for this forum.

Political rants should be made in the appropriate places.

So not bad for Paul, big jump from broker to program promoter/

 
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Can't do it public, James...

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January 4 2009, 7:15 PM 

If you want info, you're going to have to email me.

But I can get you to the person dealing directly with the trader.

And yeah, BlueBoy, that's how MY luck is changing for the new year.

How the hell is YOUR year going so far, m'lad? happy.gif

Paul

 
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Paul

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January 4 2009, 8:04 PM 

If your program has better returns than these feel free to email me..

http://www.bluegoldcap.com/>

http://www.clivecapital.com/<?xml:namespace</span> prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

A proven track record is somewhat important.

My Best, JW



    
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 4 2009, 10:06 PM 

Need an email address to go by, James.

Paul

 
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Paul, James can be contacted at......

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January 4 2009, 10:34 PM 

james_edward_workman@hotmail.com


Paul, I assume you have checked your source and know what you are doing.

Trb

 
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G_Kid
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Commodities Hedge Funds

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January 5 2009, 4:44 AM 

For James Workman

James, I see you mention BlueGold and Clive Capital. My company runs a couple of large commodity hedge funds that are very successful. Do you currently have interest in that area? Our main fund is closed, however we are able to offer access via capital protected structures, which also give leveraged returns (via a form of CPPI). Your capital is far safer within one of these structures than a PPP.

We also have some other funds which are more focussed on softs, which are currently open for further investment.

Please let me know if this would be of interest.

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 7:11 AM 

A successful commodity hedge fund in this day and age? It must be the only one in the world. Please let forum members know which one it is

 
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Yep, TRB...

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January 5 2009, 8:55 AM 

I know EXACTLY what I'm doing.

I appreciate the concern but this is a rare opportunity that sprung up a month or so back. Someone knew something, I did some detective work, and viola. happy.gif

I know the firm involved, and I know who the trader is. And my client speaks to him all the time.

And yeah, the trade is working so far, so good. Just looking for the right person for it.

Paul

 
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January 5 2009, 9:16 AM 

Annon, there are plenty of commodity hedge funds turning in positive performances in 2008. However i'm not going to be splashing up my details on here when you can't be bothered to disclose who you are!

 
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Re: Annon

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January 5 2009, 9:21 AM 

Annon, there are plenty of commodity hedge funds turning in positive performances in 2008. However i'm not going to be splashing up my details on here when you can't be bothered to disclose who you are!


    
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 9:50 AM 

A successful commodity hedge fund and leveraged returns in 2008? And looking for business in this forum? You are a real funny man!!!!

 
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I would hope this information would help everyone..

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January 5 2009, 10:56 AM 

http://www.bluegoldcap.com/<?xml:namespace</span> prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaYE3wZN_U1c&refer=home>

http://implode-explode.com/viewnews/2008-12-30_BlueGoldCliveCapitalBeatMostHedgeFundsinCommodityRout.html>

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&refer=europe&sid=auqZiUUX.aZo>

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/29/bluegold-capital-comes-strong-out-of-the-gate-report-says/>

 

http://www.clivecapital.com/>

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=acxpk_bkGikw&refer=europe>

http://www.xak.com/main/newsshow.asp?id=93743>

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=auqZiUUX.aZo&refer=uk>

www.hedgefundintelligence.com/eh/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1426559&PositionID=69355

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=57359>

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)>

By my posting all of these links I have in fact encouraged you to read and make yourself a more knowledgeable version of yourself

Your negative attitude is pointless and useless as you provide answers to the obvious but make no real attempt to contribute anything positive for the community.

I hope you would reconsider the use of your time and become a light in the dark

Have a great day, JW


 
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January 5 2009, 10:57 AM 

Gentlemen.

Happy new Year to all.

I am in position to know and confirm what Paul from Scribes is saying is not only legitimate but real as well.
This is Tier 1 trade desk.Very strong Compliance and dificult to just walk in.

Information will NOT be discussed in the Forum and open.

You may contact me via mail.

Again best wishes for 2009

Modjo

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 11:05 AM 

Modjo,

have you "successfully" completed or are you in "process" on this platform?

 
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Reply.

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January 5 2009, 11:12 AM 

Apologies.....

As i said no information will be exchanged open in this Forum.

Thank you for your understanding.

Modjo

 
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I guess you answered my question

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Yes, IbeforeE, he did...

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January 5 2009, 11:52 AM 

I don't understand what's WITH you.

Does anyone NOT understand the concept of non-disclosure?

We cannot say anything publicly. I noticed a message from James, saying he was interested in PPP, and I merely told him we have something in the works as well.

We didn't advertise Jack-crap here, and we won't.

If you don't GET that, then you don't GET how PPPs are supposed to function. happy.gif

Paul

 
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Yes, IbeforeE, he did...

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January 5 2009, 11:57 AM 

I don't understand what's WITH you.

Does anyone NOT understand the concept of non-disclosure?

We cannot say anything publicly. I noticed a message from James, saying he was interested in PPP, and I merely told him we have something in the works as well.

We didn't advertise Jack-crap here, and we won't.

If you don't GET that, then you don't GET how PPPs are supposed to function. happy.gif

Paul

 
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January 5 2009, 11:58 AM 

Sorry for repost.

Got a 501 server error and dummy me, I clicked "reload".

Paul

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 11:59 AM 

Paul:

Beacause of your reasoning, that is why most people think these programs are scams

 
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January 5 2009, 12:04 PM 

Paul:

These days, you seem to be involved in every scheme known to man... as long as it can be leveraged.
That was yesterday's news. I give you credit for persistence

 
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G_Kid
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Various...

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January 5 2009, 12:10 PM 

To Mr Anon, please email me off the board and i'll provide examples. To give you a flavour, our fund was launched in April 2004 and by Nov 2008 had returned 82.92%, with 5.91% YTD. Size is just over $1bio.

Leveraged returns are rather easy to come accross if you use a CPPI-type structure, with full capital protection over the life of the product (5 or 6 years) with an AA rated issuer.




Paul, I am very sceptical of PPP however I do have 2 clients who keep pestering me about it. I'd be happy to receive any info that you might have on your program.

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 12:55 PM 

G-Kid:

AIG also said they could insure everything you put in front of them... but guess what happen a few months ago?

 
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I apologize for the attitude...

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January 5 2009, 1:47 PM 

I just get so sick and tired of people telling me something is black when I know it's white. Sometimes, ladies and gentlemen, something IS real and legit here.

We've emailed you, G_Kid, with all information we can provide. Because of our NDA, we can't go into full details, as I'm sure you understand.

Paul

 
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My thoughts

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January 5 2009, 1:54 PM 

My post is growing more than I expected! Anyway I would like to share what I think about the PPP "wonderland":
In my experience just 20% of the "platforms" are really performing for various reasons.
Considering that there are scammers, fake trading groups and brokers chains it is not easy to find a really performing platform.
The platforms are trying to simplify the procedures to avoid scams. There is a procedure as easy as buying a bank bond bank to bank... you can have your bank verify the bond for 10 days.
In "my" platform it even happened that a secretary years ago sent the client's phone number to a broker so they were suspected to be joker brokers!
Moreover non performing clients are willing to share their bad experience more than the others.
That's why I understand who thinks that PPP don't exist.


 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 5 2009, 1:58 PM 

Yes Anon, that is very true about AIG. But what is your point? Any amount of capital protection is only as good as the bank providing the guarantee.

We had clients who lost money in Lehman issued notes. On our protected notes for our funds we use a European AA rated institution which we feel is very secure. But it's not a government backed institution, so there is always some risk.

But I don't really see the point you are making?


Paul: I will have a look at what you have sent to me and will respond in due course. Many thanks.

 
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Hey, G?

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January 5 2009, 2:18 PM 

There was some confusion.

I thought Modjo had contacted you, but he didn't have your email address, and I do not have it either.

Email me with your address, please. info@scribesunlimited.com

Thanks. happy.gif

Paul



    
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PPP

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January 6 2009, 1:49 PM 

Please advise how many clients do you have placed in this program?


Contact me:
josebueno12@hotmail.com

Rgds,


Jose Bueno
CEO
PERUVIAN BARYTES & MINES SAC
http://www.pbmsac.s5.com

 
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Re: PPP Platform - NO brokers chains

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January 6 2009, 3:34 PM 

Hey Mr Anon, you're quiet today? No comments to make??

 
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JOINUS INVESTMENT BANK LIMITED

We specialize in commercial real estate and construction finance, hard money loans and infrastructure project finance. We can fund these loans almost anywhere in the world but specialize in USA, Canada, Mexico, Carribbean Islands, Western Europe and some countries of South America and Asia. We arrange debt as well as equity finance for our borrowers. We have a special interest and capability to close difficult and complex loans.

Our borrowers includes individuals, corporations, partnerships, trusts, estates, LLC's etc. requiring 1M USD to 750M USD+ for purchase, refinance(with cash out), rehabbing, construction, development of raw land etc.

Property types include warehouses, industrial, manufacturing, retail(anchored/unanchored), office, self-storage, car washes, golf courses, marinas, casinos, raw land for commercial development, multifamily apartments, hotels, motels, condominiums, strip malls, gas stations, farms, ranches, rural properties, resorts, restaurants, non-income producing properties, special-use properties etc.

We can arrange quick funds for purchase/acquisition of properties for rehabbing and sale, working capital for new construction and development, refinance(with/without cashout), to seize a good business opportunity where speed of transaction is important etc.

We can arrange financing against various AA/AAA rated financial instruments and alternative collaterals anywhere in the world.

We can also arrange infrastructure project finance for power plants, cement plants, airports, railroads, telecommunications, highways, ports, bridges, ethanol plants, hotels, oil and gas refineries, government guaranteed projects etc. The minimum loan amount should be 100M
USD for infrastructure project finance.

We don't charge any upfront fee from our borrowers and all our fees are payable at closing out of the loan proceeds.

We also arrange proof/show of funds for various purposes viz. proof of liqiuidity, proof of networth, blocked funds for investment, proof of collateral, show of downpayment, bond requirement etc. This service is worldwide and can be used for any purpose. This is basically renting our money for short and long term. No credit checks, financials or credit scores are ever required. Funds would be shown in a bank account in your name. All of our funds are seasoned. Please ask for further details of this special program.

We also arrange seasoned/slightly seasoned medium term notes(MTN's) at very low rates for very large transactions. Please ask for further details.

 
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January 9 2009, 1:18 PM 

and where did you get your license for this? any details?

 
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Re: And, there is more...........

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Richard Ludwig
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January 9 2009, 2:16 PM 

yes, but thats not an investment bank just an investment company

Name & Registered Office:
JOINUS INVESTMENT LTD
12 ST NORMANS WAY
EPSOM
SURREY
UNITED KINGDOM
KT17 1QG
Company No. 06581248

website registrant is:

Registrant:
TagNames Limited

Trading as:
TagNames.co.uk

Registrant type:
UK Limited Company, (Company number: 4534942)

Registrant's address:
7 The Willows
Great Chesterford
Essex
CB10 1QL
GB

Registrar:
TagNames Limited t/a TagNames.co.uk [Tag = NAMES]
URL: http://www.TagNames.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 22-Sep-2003
Renewal date: 22-Sep-2009
Last updated: 21-Sep-2007

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
ns1.4d.co.uk
ns2.4d.co.uk

WHOIS lookup made at 19:14:26 09-Jan-2009

a company which exists:

Name & Registered Office:
TAGNAMES LIMITED
7 THE WILLOWS, GREAT CHESTERFORD
SAFFRON WALDEN
ESSEX
CB10 1QL
Company No. 04534942

but is not an investment bank


one wonders

 
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January 10 2009, 4:47 AM 

Can you let me know a little more about your commodity fund and particularly how your type of CPPI works?

Regards
Luxemburger

 
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