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June 23 2009 at 5:57 AM
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bluebadboy  (Login bluebadboy)
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How many people on this forum undersand and/or believe in the ping system, ?

can those of you who do, please explain how, when and where it can work ?

the circumstances, required to make it work?


 
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June 23 2009, 6:27 AM 

Hi Blue,

With Golf Clubs or SONAR. happy.gif

Never a ping system be involved in.

They will request some sort of authorisation, and pong you blind.

Like giving Cassanova the master keys to your beloved's chastity belt.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/27708/thread/1207722603/last-1211687002/Two+%26quot%3BPing%26quot%3B+Private+Placement+Programs

I am on my fourth pint and youngs does not cut it like guiness or the speckled hen.

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June 23 2009, 10:24 AM 

I love my old Ping Black Eye clubs.

BBB...I was trying to figure out when I first heard the phrase "ping your account"

I had a situation last week where we needed someone to send a MT-799 for a transaction I am working on and the guy stated "can't you just ping my account?"

 
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June 23 2009, 10:50 AM 

Me too Chad, this seems to be the flavour of the month currently, Everyone who has cash to invest asks the same question can you not ping my account,

I try to explain to them that their proposal is like ringing up the bank across the road and one bank officer asking the other to go stand in the the window and undress, never heard of such a system and wondering what has brought this sudden surge of pinging to the table. Admittedly it is from our US investor, maybe has to do with the US reporting for movement of funds abroad and their inability to utilise the swift system

As for me, much prefer Nike clubs, hit the ball longer and not the dreaded ping sound

 
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BBB

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June 23 2009, 10:54 AM 

Hello BBB!

By now we know better. Once someone mentions "ping my account" immediately move on. You are dealing with someone who has been attending "joker-broker cyberspace university" and this chap will waste your time from now on....if you continue dealing with such individual.

P.I.

 
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June 23 2009, 2:05 PM 

Thanks P.I. That much I do know, what i am trying to establish is why we have this sudden impulse from all american investors re this ping garbish. It doesnt exist in the real world and you simply cannot talk to any american investor with cash who insists on the ping method as a way forward.

I tried to explain to a potential investor, go into JP Morgan Chase and ask them what is a ping method and would they comply with a request from HSBC to check someones account and a daily basis. He refused because some broker had told him this was the only way to invest and basically rubbished my proposals.

Have all brokers in the US simply gone made and invented this system,

 
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June 23 2009, 2:09 PM 

I first heard about pinging accounts a few months ago from some US joker. He was using it in a negative way though..his words were "I'm not telling you who I bank with, because then you'll just ping the accounts, as that's what you Europeans always do".

Funnily enough I didn't do any business with him!

 
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June 24 2009, 3:15 AM 

I'm sure that you had exchanges with Richard, however I just refer tohttp://www.bradynet.com/bbs/newdeals/106793-0.html for those who have never read the link

 
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June 30 2009, 7:56 AM 

Sorry for coming back to this,

Today I have received an offer purporting to be from Standard Charter bank offering a ''ping system'' are we all missing something or have the banks now joined with the brokers on a if you can't beat them then join them syndrome''

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June 30 2009, 12:24 PM 

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http://www.tradingscreen.com/

 

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firewalls and filtering-routers. POPs and CPEs also act as filtering-routers. The firewalls and filtering routers are configured

to protect against the attempts to access unauthorized servers and routers, and denial of service attacks, including attacks

through Ping of Death, SYN flooding, bursting-of-packets and LAN denial.

 

http://www.csulb.edu/journals/jecr/issues/20021/paper2.pdf

 

Ping An Insurance Group said that it plans to buy stake worth up to a combined Rmb22 billion ($3.2 billion) in Shenzhen Development Bank (SDB). Ping An will purchase up to 585 million new shares from SDB for Rmb10.7 billion ($1.5 billion), and another 520 million shares from US-based Newbridge Capital, currently the biggest shareholder in the bank, for Rmb11.45 billion ($1.7 million) by the end of 2010. The two deals will enable Ping An to acquire a nearly 30% stake in the bank, and become its top shareholder.

https://www.theasianbanker.com/A556C5/Update.nsf/0/021B0611281BE02C482575DD0010D618?OpenDocument


 
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June 30 2009, 12:28 PM 

James we know you are from \Florida where everything is supposed to be big, sadly your humor is not. if you cannot contribute something serious to a discussion stay quiet, this is very important to a client who is now brainwashed and in danger of losing a lot of money because some big mouthed yank tried to convince him that ''pinging an account'' is legal.

no doubt you will cut and paste and waste more time. sadly that is life with the lifes of you

 
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June 30 2009, 12:38 PM 

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June 30 2009, 12:28 PM 

 

 

James we know you are from \Florida where everything is supposed to be big, sadly your humor is not. if you cannot contribute something serious to a discussion stay quiet, this is very important to a client who is now brainwashed and in danger of losing a lot of money because some big mouthed yank tried to convince him that ''pinging an account'' is legal.

no doubt you will cut and paste and waste more time. sadly that is life with the lifes of you

 

Francis,

I have provided 3rd party verifiable information that should make your problem that much easier to solve. If my offering a helping hand is unwelcome, so be it. The information provided though from once again a 3rd party reputable source should help you make things clear to whomever is suffering from the Ping Disease.

JW

P.S.

Something I received that may also be helpful. I hope the click and paste link is not so overwhelming complicated that you have trouble or think for some reason because it is easy for you to operate and verifiable (by you) that is meant as some kind of slight.  I prefer verifiable 3rd party easily digestible information. But I am a dumb Yank.

http://www.schroders.com/StaticFiles/Schroders/Funds/SIL%20-%20Unit%20Trusts/English/Life%20Company%20Matrix.pdf


 
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June 30 2009, 1:29 PM 

a dumb yank that is the first sensible post you have ever made here

 
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June 30 2009, 1:31 PM 

Types of other scams that are around at the moment include:

  • Bogus FSA and FOS communications letters or emails claiming to be from the FSA or FOS asking for your personal information or money.
  • Bank charge cold callers telephone calls or emails out of the blue, offering to help reclaim your charges often claiming to be from the OFT.
  • Identity fraud someone impersonates you without your knowledge, often by stealing discarded or lost documents.
  • Advance fee schemes letters or emails that offer you vast sums if you make payments up front.

Investment scams

  • Share scams (also known as boiler rooms) a stranger rings you out of the blue and tries to offer you shares in a company you have never heard of.
  • Affinity fraud investment scams that target members of a group, such as a community or a religious, ethnic, elderly or professional group.
  • Chain letters letters or emails that contain a list of names and guarantee you a huge return for your small initial investment.

Online scams

  • Fund transfer schemes moneylaundering scams that tempt you to use your bank account by offering a commission. But you could wind up with a prison sentence too.
  • Online fraud (phishing) fake bank websites that crooks use to try and get your personal details and money.

To "Ping" an account is to in fact to gain privileged information about the account "Pinged". Although more sophisticated than the above it falls into one or multiple of the scams / frauds mentioned above.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

I have posted this information (or clipped and pasted) from an outside source so it may be easily verifiable by any or all who have suffered the "Ping" Scam pitch.

 

Be well, JW

 


 
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June 30 2009, 1:33 PM 

I forgot the link sorry...

 

http://www.moneymadeclear.fsa.gov.uk/news/scams/scams_and_swindles.html

 

Being helpful other than to make sure the Germans don't rule you I know maybe a novel idea in that head of yours Francis.

You should not look gift horses in the mouth. It takes a certain type of ego to rationalize the act.

JW


 
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June 30 2009, 1:50 PM 

Mr. Arbizu maintained that he had felt overwhelmed by pressure from UBS early on to keep existing clients and bring in new ones. Just months after he joined the bank, he promised an important client, Alberto Lopez, a wealthy farmer in Argentina, that he would generate a 21 percent return on one of his accounts. Of course, this was impossible, Mr. Arbizu told The Times.

Months later, Mr. Lopez wanted his investment return. Scrambling, Mr. Arbizu secretly dipped into Mr. Lopezs principal, which he replenished by secretly tapping $2.8 million from another star UBS client, the Acevedo Quevedos family, wealthy and politically prominent in Paraguay.

Mr. Arbizu left UBS for JPMorgan Chase in November 2006 without informing the Quevedo family. The following April, the Quevedo family contacted Mr. Arbizu, saying that its members needed money from their UBS accounts to buy land.

Panicked about covering the shortfall, Mr. Arbizu said he pretended he was still the familys banker at UBS, and secretly raided a JPMorgan Chase account held by Natalio Garber, a prominent media executive in Buenos Aires, for the funds.

He did so, he said, by faxing transfer requests with forged client signatures to UBSs New York offices, and then visiting the offices to ensure with Mr. Decastro that the transaction had gone through. Everybody there liked me and trusted me Oh great, youre visiting us, Mr. Arbizu recalled. I think that my presence there saying that it was O.K. made people not follow the controls.

Weeks later, Mr. Garber learned of the ruse and called Mr. Arbizus boss to complain. JPMorgan Chase fired him and alerted federal prosecutors in Manhattan, paving the way to an indictment that accused Mr. Arbizu of 12 illegal transfers while at UBS and JPMorgan Chase, totaling more than $5.3 million.

Darin Oduyoye, a spokesman for JP Morgan Chase, said that the bank was waiting for the U.S. government to pursue extradition of Mr. Arbizu, but declined to comment further, The Times said.

In the interview, Mr. Arbizu told The Times that the 12 transfers, some to client accounts in tax havens like Andorra and the Netherlands Antilles, totaled only $2.8 million.Mr. Arbizu secretly made eight of the transactions from accounts held by his former UBS clients from March 2007 through March 2008, up to 16 months after he had left for JPMorgan Chase.

JPMorgan has not dropped its lawsuit, but it has not made filings that would push its case forward. Last February it quietly closed a case that it had filed against Mr. Arbizu with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, the agency that monitors brokers, although a spokesman declined to say whether it had dropped or settled the case.

By contrast, UBS has not sued Mr. Arbizu. But in May 2008, it filed a report with Finra to declare the bank had initiated an internal investigation of Mr. Arbizu a month earlier. The next month, UBS amended the Finra report to include details of $2.8 million in illegal transfers from an unnamed Paraguayan client. But UBS said in the amended report that it had received complaints about those transfers only in May 2008 one month after it began investigating Mr. Arbizu for illegal money transfers.

UBS quietly settled the Finra action for $1.44 million last December. In mid-June, UBS filed a broker report for Mr. Arbizus successor, Mr. Decastro, saying that he had left the firm amid an internal investigation of violations of firm compliance and client confidentiality rules.

I know I am stupid, Mr. Arbizu told The Times. I feel that in all these years I had my head divided into two sections, in one small section all this problem and in the rest my normal life.

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/private-banker-moved-funds-undetected/?scp=1&sq=Arbizu&st=cse

 

For a "Bank" to pay out 20% returns.. seems more along the line of an "Investment Bank" type of mind set.

 

Leveraged returns in this market top 100% easily with no tax benefit blended in.

 

I guess I would have an interest in a "Bank" return of plus 20% as long as it was properly handled.

 

G_Kid.. maybe after you give it a once over you can explain whether or not it is (in either case) a way the Swiss are fighting back.. or if it is an Investment Bank pretending to be a Bank.

 

Thanks for your time and help, JW


 
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June 30 2009, 3:14 PM 

JW, not sure what you mean about whether they are pretending to be an investment bank or not?

However it could definitely be the Swiss looking for some revenge!

 
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bluebadboy
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June 30 2009, 3:15 PM 

james as a US citizen swiss banks won't entertain you because of the forms you must complete before you can open a swiss bank account. This is imposed on us citizens by the us authorities not the swiss authorities.

if you feel you can comply with all the us authorities forms i would gladly introduce you personnally to the bank

would just love to see you have to eat large slices of humble pie.

next move up to you i have made the offer show the ability to comply with the us authorities and the dosh and i will open the door







 
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June 30 2009, 4:05 PM 

james as a US citizen swiss banks won't entertain you because of the forms you must complete before you can open a swiss bank account. This is imposed on us citizens by the us authorities not the swiss authorities.

if you feel you can comply with all the us authorities forms i would gladly introduce you personnally to the bank

would just love to see you have to eat large slices of humble pie.

next move up to you i have made the offer show the ability to comply with the us authorities and the dosh and i will open the door

 

Francis,

Why does everyone have to be against you all the time? The question was whether the Bank was really an Investment Bank or the Swiss turning up the heat.. And I have money in Swiss accounts.. To my knowledge the Swiss are happy to take on new customers like every other Bank in the World right now.

The long term problem (You are Irish not Swiss so this can not be a reflection on you Francis, just to be clear) I see is getting money out of the accounts and back into some non-Swiss working structure.

I am as transparent as clean glass so I don't worry so much but for the institutional monies.. are they going to corner the Swiss for every penny being sourced? The back office alone would kill the deal.. (Francis, if you are a back office guy.. I meant no offense)..

I think the Swiss are more in compliance than Viet Nam, China, I could go on but Asia proper is off the Grid for sure but lacks the name brand recognition the Swiss bear the brunt or burden of carrying..

Be well all (Francis, when I say be well all.. this includes you), JW


 
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June 30 2009, 4:12 PM 

JW, not sure what you mean about whether they are pretending to be an investment bank or not?

However it could definitely be the Swiss looking for some revenge!

 

I was wondering if the Swiss Bank was really an Investment Bank.. or if like you so aptly stated are they turning up the heat for inflows?

 

I do not see a U.S. Bank keeping up with a 20% plus interest rate.. I don't see a BRIC Country Bank (mainstream) hitting those types of numbers..

 

In the article I posted (I know more clip and paste.. dear Lord save us from me clip and pastes) the Swiss seem to pretty open about staving off the push for Transparency.. I will as a dumb question as a dumb Yank.. Where will the CIA or any other clandestine org. move money to and from? I will say again that Asia proper is off the Grid and not coming back any time soon..

 

My best G on your Isle.. I hope the fish are biting for you..

 

JW


 
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June 30 2009, 5:13 PM 

james if you said mass in the vatican i would not believe you or your intentions. stick to your extracting yourself from the Chad mess

 
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Francis...

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June 30 2009, 5:49 PM 

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james if you said mass in the vatican i would not believe you or your intentions. stick to your extracting yourself from the Chad mess

 

What exactly do I need to extract myself from Francis?

You should spend more time with your grand daughter and less time rutting are around in the dirt in the end you are the only one who ends up dirty.

But to be clear Francis.. I have not been approached by any of the Federal Authorities prosecuting Chad.

But to be clear once again, Francis they are more than welcome to walk down the hall and make an appointment like anyone else who wants to see me. Transparency or the fact that I am more of a Brick and Mortar type of personality than you care to joust with is truly beyond my control.

I did post with the greater good in mind more so than you truth be told.. But I the help being sourced and from a 3rd party serves you several ways, mind you that the thought of making your case is less important than waddling back for a spit ball fight on line..

If I remember correctly it was you and Chad that became far closer than I and his local representative who came and sat in my offices. Two internet personalities puffing each other is the thought that went through my mind honestly.. But to each their own. My experiences in other forums have not translated in this forum quite so easily. This forum that you do not care for if memory serves is more about brokering than Banking in almost all cases. But the service I provide through providing information that is sourced so the General Populace will be able to digest the information easily and freely seems to bother you for some reason. I guess your ability to charge for general information is being diminished every time I post, my apologies for cutting into your fee schedule.  Once again to each their own.

 

But in the interest of practicing what I preach.. Transparency, even for you Francis.

 

My best to your Grand Daughter, JW

 

 

 Chad DeRousse - Diamond Crest Consulting - Vancouver/WA


http://www.kptv.com/news/19148392/detail.html


VANCOUVER, Wash. -- FBI agents searched a home and arrested three people in connection with a scam that took thousands of dollars from people living in southwest Washington.

FBI agents arrested Chad DeRousse at a Vancouver home Thursday. One neighbor said the agents took his home computer as they served a search warrant in the morning. They also took several weapons from the home.

While agents served the warrant on DeRousse's home they were also in Camas at the home of Alyson and Darcy Start.

The U.S. Attorney General's Office said the three have been under investigation for several months.

The three made their first court appearance Thursday in a federal court on charges of mail and wire fraud.

Most of DeRousse's friends and family refused to answer questions about the case, but one friend believe he's not guilty and that DeRousse would never break the law.

The FBI said the three will likely be transferred to a federal detention center later this week.

The three individuals face several charges that include 17 counts of conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud and 16 counts of actually committing wire fraud.

Chad DeRousse - Diamond Crest Consulting - Vancouver/WA

 

 

February 2, 2009

World Aerospace Energy Inc. and Al Jamal International Corp. (product title holders) here by confirm with full responsibility the guarantee of the funds in the amount of $1,900,000.00 USD to Shell Capitol Group, and its Investors.

It is the intention of both World Aerospace Energy Inc. and Al Jamal International Corp. that in the event of a failure by either party, Exit buyer or Seller , that Shell Capitol Group and its investors will be guaranteed the return of the investment within 30 days from the time of receipt.

______________________________

Mr. Samuel Alex Oseiwusu/CEO

World AeroSpace Energy Inc.

Al Jamal International Corp.

10 SPRING RIDGE CT DANBURY CT. 06811 TELE:1-323-967-1082 FAX:1-203-746-1582

WORLDAERO1@AIM.COM

 

February 3, 2009

 

Re: Request for Third party investor.

 

Dear Agent/ Loan Officer,

The Seller, World Aerospace Energy Inc. / Al Jamal International Corp, who is a Joint Venture Partner (JVP) with the Refinery connected by the pipeline Baku-Novorossiysk to the Sheskharis oil terminal in Novorossiysk Russia has received an official Letter of Intent (LOI) to purchase from confirmed capable major buyer for a February allocation of  Russian D2 Gas Oil in the amount of 15 million MT, this is a spot transaction, in which they would pick up at the port near the Refinery.

Upon request, we have available a sample soft offer, attestation letter and a few letters from the seller on this allocation.


This Buyer will not pay for any additional fees that are normally attached to a Refinery purchase. They will only pay the cost at the port or the refinery for the fuel being sold. The JVP can not provide these funds for the fees and taxes to retrieve the Buyers Charter Party agreement due to stipulations in its 10 year contractual agreement with OAO NK  Russneft.

Based on the Port and pipe line restriction, If the buyer brings a vessel DWT of 100k they can lift 250k MT of D2 every 3 to 5 days.

Based on the loading schedule, we perceive the profits earned will far exceed the initial investment of $1,900,000.00

I would like to point out that first the Client/ Investors funds would be wired directly to Attorney J.S.Power, who is bound by an insurance policy called errors and omissions. This would be their primary protection against fraud.  Second the act of wiring this to the lawyer and the lawyer's bank accepting this wire is your secondary protection measure. Third, once the funds have been accepted by the Lawyer, a Letter of reception will be issued to the Client/ Investor for his records.  Finally, if these funds are routed through an escrow company as additional (although unnecessary) option, you would have double indemnity regarding the protection of these funds.

If your client /Investor wishes to use an escrow company, Cascade Title Company located in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Vancouver Washington has been notified and is expecting the escrow instructions to proceed.  We have provided these instructions as an attached file for your Client/ Investor to forward to the escrow company, if they decide to go this route.



It should be known that these funds of $1,900,000.00 first are wired to the Attorney J.S Power Esq. whose offices and Bank are located here in America. 

These funds will only be released upon receipt of Notarized Invoices pertaining to the Taxes and Fees due on Contract Number:  AL J/13.0M-MT/SPOT/220408.


Then the investors funds are sent to the proper Russian offices to satisfy the tax, charges and fees associated with this allocation, in exchange for the Charter party agreement.

Once the Charter party agreement is presented to the Buyer, a P.O. will be issued. This document enables the Buyer to start lifting the fuel.

The Investor will receive by wire from the Lawyer J.S. Power Esq. the initial investment reimbursement of $1,900,000 as soon as the P.O is issued to the Seller.

In addition, within 8 days following each lifting and issuance of the ship captains Uliage Report, the Investor's commission of $1.00/MT (total 15m MT as lifted) will be wired to the paymaster for disbursement.

Please let your Client/Investor know if he wishes to speak to the JVP directly this can be arranged for any further inquires or questions.

Here's the contact numbers of all companies involved.

 The Seller: is World Aerospace Energy Inc / Al Jamal International Corp

My contact to this company  is Mr. Sal Carpanzano is a joint venture partner with the refinery and  owns 50% of World Aerospace and 33%  of Al Jamal

His numbers are 
Home Office: (941) 745-5391
Cell: (732) 337-5877
Fax: (203) 746-1582


 

 

 

 

 

The Law firm:  Mr. John S. Power
COUNSELOR AT LAW

800 RIVERVIEW DRIVE, SUITE 109

BRIELLE, NEW JERSEY 08730

Cell: (732)-580-0287

 

Office: (732) 223-3400  
 Fax: (732) 223-1473


The connection to escrow company is  Mr. Chad De Rousse of Diamondcrest Consulting Corp
His contact information is.

12613 NE 9th St.
 Vancouver, WA 98684
Cell: 360-931-7781
Office:360-885-7732

Please contact Chad for a introduction to Cascade Title before contacting them directly

Cascade Title
805 Broadway, Suite 747,
Vancouver, WA 98660
Office  (360) 695-1301,
Toll Free (877) 695-1301,
Escrow Fax (360) 695-2358,
Title Fax  (360) 369-0204
http://www.cascadetitleco.com/

In closing, This offering needs to be under way by February 5th 2009  in order to start lifting by the buyers deadline.

Please feel free to contact Mr. Carpanzano, Mr. Power or Mr. De Rousse to confirm this venture.

Thank you,


Ed LeCocq

Managing Director

 

February 2, 2009

ESCROW INSTRUCTIONS

Dear Gentlemen:

The Escrow instruction are as follows.

Funds in the amount of $1.900,000 will be sent to the Designated Trust Account of John S. Power Esq.

Bank Of America

405 Union Avenue

Brielle, New Jersey 08730

ABA# 026-009-593

JSP Trust Account # 48808 29499

Funds will only be released upon receipt of Notarized Invoices pertaining to the Taxes and Fees due on Contract Number: AL J/15.0M-MT/SPOT/220408.

The office of John S. Power Esq. will be responsible for forwarding payments and disbursements.

Mr. Samuel Alex Oseiwusu/CEO

World AeroSpace Energy Inc.

10 SPRING RIDGE CT DANBURY CT. 06811 TELE:1-323-967-1082 FAX:1-203-746-1582 WORLDAERO1@AIM.COM

 

RE: Details on major purchase for 15 million spot of D2ž

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Yes, it thank you.
 
Is not exactly the clarity I was hoping for.
 
Are these are the people you have worked with before?
 
Are these the names you are used to seeing?
 
Thanks, JW


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From: diamondcrest@q.com
To: james_edward_workman@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Details on major purchase for 15 million spot of D2
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:50:02 -0800

 

 

 

 

Diamond Crest Consulting Corp. TM

12613 NE 9th ST.    Vancouver, WA  98684                             (360) 885-7732 office / (360) 885-7761 fax

 

 Yes, it thank you.

Chad

 

 

 

Chad deRousse

President, Diamondcrest Consulting

Office:360-885-7732

Fax: 360-885-7761

Skype: dcccboss

 http://diamondcrestconsulting.com

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: James Workman [mailto:james_edward_workman@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:35 PM
To: diamondcrest@q.com
Subject: FW: Details on major purchase for 15 million spot of D2

 



Are these the names you are used to seeing? In other words nothing has changed from your last deal too this one?
 
I am checking in with you on that fact as if it has worked well thus far I would like to know from you these are the right people.
 
My Best to you and yours Chad, JW


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:38:37 -0500
Subject: Details on major purchase for 15 million spot of D2
From: shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com
To: James_edward_workman@hotmail.com

 February 4, 2009
 
Re: Request for Third party investor.
 
Dear  Mr. Workman,

Base on our brief conversation I wanted to send a summery of the deal we will be going over in the morning.

The Seller, World Aerospace Energy Inc. / Al Jamal International Corp, who is a Joint Venture Partner (JVP) with the Refinery connected by the pipeline Baku-Novorossiysk to the Sheskharis oil terminal in Novorossiysk Russia has received an official Letter of Intent (LOI) to purchase from confirmed capable major buyer for a February allocation of  Russian D2 Gas Oil in the amount of 15 million MT, this is a spot transaction, in which they would pick up at the port near the Refinery.


Upon request, we have available a sample soft offer, attestation letter and a few letters from the seller on this allocation.

This Buyer will not pay for any additional fees that are normally attached to a Refinery purchase. They will only pay the cost at the port or the refinery for the fuel being sold. The JVP can not provide these funds for the fees and taxes to retrieve the Buyers Charter Party agreement due to stipulations in its 10 year contractual agreement with OAO NK  Russneft.
Based on the Port and pipe line restriction, If the buyer brings a vessel DWT of 1
00k they can lift 250k MT of D2 every 3 to 5 days.

Based on the loading schedule, we perceive the profits earned will far exceed the initial investment of $1,990,000.00

I would like to point out that first the Client/ Investors funds would be wired directly to Attorney J.S.Power, who is bound by an insurance policy called errors and omissions. This would be their primary protection against fraud.  Second the act of wiring this to the lawyer and the lawyer's bank accepting this wire is your secondary protection measure. Third, once the funds have been accepted by the Lawyer, a Letter of reception will be issued to the Client/ Investor for his records.  Finally, if these funds are routed through an escrow company as additional (although unnecessary) option, you would have double indemnity regarding the protection of these funds.

If your client /Investor wishes to use an escrow company, Cascade Title Company located in Vancouver Washington has been notified and is expecting the escrow instructions to proceed.  We have provided these instructions as an attached file for your Client/ Investor to forward to the escrow company, if they decide to go this route.



It should be known that these funds of $1,900,000.00 first are wired to the Attorney J.S Power Esq. whose offices and Bank are located here in America. 

These funds will only be released upon receipt of Notarized Invoices pertaining to the Taxes and Fees due on Contract Number:  AL J/15.0M-MT/SPOT/220408.

Then the investor's funds are sent to the proper Russian offices to satisfy the tax, charges and fees associated with this allocation, in exchange for the Charter party agreement.

Once the Charter party agreement is presented to the Buyer, a P.O. will be issued. This document enables the Buyer to start lifting the fuel.

The Investor will receive by wire from the Lawyer J.S. Power Esq. the initial investment reimbursement of $1,990,000 as soon as the P.O is issued to the Seller.

In addition, within 8 days following each lifting and issuance of the ship captains Uliage Report, the
Investor's commission of $1.00/MT (total 15m MT as lifted) will be wired to the paymaster for disbursement.

Please let your Client/Investor know if he wishes to speak to the JVP directly this can be arranged for any further inquires or questions.

Here's the contact numbers of all companies involved.

 The Seller: is World Aerospace Energy Inc / Al Jamal International Corp

My contact to this company  is Mr. Sal Carpanzano is a joint venture partner with the refinery and  owns 50% of World Aerospace and 33%  of Al Jamal

His numbers are 
Home Office: (941) 745-5391
Cell: (732) 337-5877
Fax: (203) 746-1582


The Law firm:  Mr. John S. Power

COUNSELOR AT LAW
800 RIVERVIEW DRIVE, SUITE 109
BRIELLE, NEW JERSEY 08730
Cell: (732)-580-0287
 
Office: (732) 223-3400  
 Fax: (732) 223-1473

 


The connection to escrow company is  Mr. Chad De Rousse of Diamondcrest Consulting Corp
His contact information is.

12613 NE 9th St.
 Vancouver, WA 98684
Cell: 360-931-7781
Office:360-885-7732

Please contact Chad for a introduction to Cascade Title before contacting them directly

Cascade Title
805 Broadway, Suite 747,
Vancouver, WA 98660
Office  (360) 695-1301,
Toll Free (877) 695-1301,
Escrow Fax (360) 695-2358,
Title Fax  (360) 369-0204
http://www.cascadetitleco.com/

In closing, This offering needs to be under way by February 5th 2009  in order to start lifting by the buyer's deadline.

Please feel free to contact Mr. Carpanzano, Mr. Power or Mr. De Rousse to confirm this venture.


Thank you,

Ed LeCocq
Managing Director


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Tel:754-235-0126  
Fax:954-212-2600
shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com

Skype: Ed: imloaded, Tom: tgun11


Satellite  Office :
Jacksonville, FL
Tel 754-235-0126 Fax 954-212-2600

Main Office:
Miami, FL 33137
Tel 305-704-8120 Fax 305-704-8121


 
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June 30 2009, 6:06 PM 

As I go back and look through the Chad's correspondence Francis it would seem to me the sharing of information between the two of you was at a fevered pitch. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

Sincerely, JW

 

 

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Diamond Crest Consulting Corp. TM

12613 NE 9th ST.    Vancouver, WA  98684                             (360) 885-7732 office / (360) 885-7761 fax

 

 After talking with BBB he told me all about R.A. Mansfield or should I say a william penn. Have fun with the info! He is a joker broker of the highest degree, his office in Philly is a barber shop. He claims to be in the Army but cannot find any proof. Of that and I was in the Army and still have family in the service and they could not find him either.

 

 

Chad deRousse

President, Diamondcrest Consulting

Office:360-885-7732

Fax: 360-885-7761

Skype: dcccboss

 http://diamondcrestconsulting.com

 

Making your diamonds in the rough shine. . . . . . . . . .

 

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Here is more dialogue of the no due diligence deals presented.

 

Re: Details on the small investment needed.ž

From:

Shell Capital Group Oil (shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com)

Sent:

Fri 3/13/09 5:17 PM

To:

James Workman (james_edward_workman@hotmail.com)

James,

Not all my submissions will be so tight, I had funder just vanish and cost me 2 valuable days on the Oblation Inc venture.  It had a great rate of return with no risk shown so I submitted it to you.

 Now  the JVP offer of 25% being presented has a week from Thursday to fund before we lose the option.

if you require any further details on this offering it will be sent to you.


Enjoy your weekend.

 Ed




On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:22 PM, James Workman <james_edward_workman@hotmail.com> wrote:

I just walked in and have not read anything yet...
 
As for the time sensitive no due diligence available type of deals..
 
I have zero appetite for such..
 
Have a great weekend, JW
 
P.S. Sorry Rusty to have not gotten back with you sooner on this.





 

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From: whuseman@jaxattys.com
To: shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Details on the small investment needed.
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:09:55 -0400

 

Ed,

 

I appreciate your enthusiasm and eagerness to get deals done.  I have forwarded all your emails on to my client and as of this moment have not heard from him.  Assuming he is interested I am absolutely sure he will contact me.

 

For your use and information, I do not encourage my client to hastily enter into any agreement regardless of how harmless such a agreement may seem.  It is and always has been my experience that with every opportunity comes risk and it is my job to protect my client from adverse risk or undue liability.  Quite frankly, the urgency of your emails concerns me in that this is how things got so convoluted the last time we tried to do business together. 

 

Again, my apologies if this seems terse but please understand, I simply cannot drop everything on my schedule to accommodate your timetables.   My client has your information and should he elect to engage in a conversation with you regarding this potential opportunity, I assure you we will be in touch with you or he will advise me accordingly.

 

Take care and have a great weekend.

 

Rusty

 

William R. Huseman, P.A.

3733 University Blvd. West, Suite 210B

Jacksonville, Florida 32217

(904) 448-5552

Fax (904) 448-5653

 

From: Shell Capital Group Oil [mailto:shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:30 PM
To: Rusty Huseman
Subject: Fwd: Details on the small investment needed.

 

Rusty,


.NEED THIS LETTER ASAP.  THIS DOES NOT OBLIGATE YOU AT ALL TO THE DEAL.  This 230k goes to secure the JVP for her oil contract.  The other 270k goes to secure the property (total of your 500k).  You'll get the 500k back in 5 business days and then another 1m in a week.  The property I will forward you is the collateral.  Need the name of the company  that you want it signed over to.


Please contact me when you read this.



The letter below needs to send back under the investor company letterhead ASAP.

It should be noted that this letter dose not obligate the investor in any way if they see not to proceed after the reviewing of the collateral.

Ed

PLEASE NOTE THIS LETTER IS STRUCTURED, TO SHOW THAT FUNDS DUE TO HER ARE IN ROUTE.


Dear Ms. Lawrence

We received your request for the advance payment of $230,000 off of the total accumulated fees earned for services rendered along with contractual future earnings
on payorder #XXX.  Based upon our satisfaction of your consistent performance we have decided to sign off on your request and advance you the sum of $230,000.  These funds will be released immediately to your designated account.

Thank you and we look forward to continued success in our relationship. 

Signature
Title

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Managing Directors
Tel:754-235-0126  
Fax:954-212-2600
shellcapitalgroupoil@gmail.com

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Tel 754-235-0126 Fax 954-212-2600

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There has been a bit of blur of the distinction between private and investment banks, which is not helped by most investment banks having a private banking decision.

In your original article, I am presuming the UBS guy was offering a bespoke discretionary service, probably linked to some prop trading strategy from their investment banking side. I've been involved in similar investment services myself when I was on the buy-side.

 
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Re: PING system

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June 30 2009, 6:07 PM 

There has been a bit of blur of the distinction between private and investment banks, which is not helped by most investment banks having a private banking decision.

In your original article, I am presuming the UBS guy was offering a bespoke discretionary service, probably linked to some prop trading strategy from their investment banking side. I've been involved in similar investment services myself when I was on the buy-side.

 

I thought I had posted this one.. Sorry G... My fault.. No wonder poor Francis had his panties in a twist..

Sorry for having a conversation without posting the wrong story G.. really I goofed.

My best to you and yours, JW

 

Swiss declare war over tax evasion

By Richard Milne in London

Published: June 28 2009 22:33 | Last updated: June 28 2009 22:33

An economic war has broken out between Switzerland and the rest of the world after the crackdown on Swiss banking secrecy, according to one of Genevas leading private bankers.

Yves Mirabaud, a managing partner at Swiss private bank Mirabaud, told the Financial Times that nothing was easier than dodging tax in the US and UK.

In rare public comments, the Swiss private banker said: There is a feeling in the banking community, and also in the population . . . that we are in an economic war.

There is nothing easier than doing tax evasion in the US. Look at Delaware companies or trusts in the Channel Islands.

Mr Mirabaud portrayed Switzerland as a country picked on by bigger rivals: It is more than simply fighting against tax havens. Switzerland is a small country. It is not powerful.

Swiss private banks have come under pressure after countries, led by the US and Germany, made Switzerland agree to ease its strict bank secrecy laws this year. The situation was exacerbated by the plight of , the worlds largest wealth manager, which is involved in a legal fight with US authorities over alleged assistance in tax evasion.

Mr Mirabaud said that UBS had behaved poorly and had not helped the Swiss financial centre. He added that discussions on bank secrecy had cost us all a lot.

But Mr Mirabaud said the crackdown on bank secrecy had yet to lead to an impact on business, although it could do so in the future as it was unclear how much transparency there would be. There is a certain uncertainty for our clients, he said. They have been asking questions and we dont have all the answers. But business is good.

Swiss private banks and politicians are adamant that fishing expeditions from foreign countries to find out customers names known as the automatic exchange of information will not be allowed.

But it is unclear where the line will be drawn on how much evidence of possible tax evasion will be needed for disclosure of customer details to be enforced.

Privacy is very important for us in Switzerland. Automatic exchange of information is the negation of all this. In this case, we have some common interests with countries like the UK, Mr Mirabaud said, alluding to offshore centres such as the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.

Mr Mirabaud said that the past few months had been an unpleasant time but that factors such as the quality of staff and the political stability of Switzerland meant the country was still an attractive destination for potential private bank customers.

We understand that we are in an economic war and we have our own weapons, he added.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6e8d95d2-6411-11de-a818-00144feabdc0.html


 
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