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Sounds Fishy To Me; What Do You Think?

October 16 2009 at 8:08 PM
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Hello Gents,

Thought I'd share this email I just received. Don't know these people at all, but my understanding is that it's illegal to offer guaranteed returns in the US. Anyone?


Family Values Financial Services Announces
A Special Website "Pre-Launch" Offer for NEW Clients Only

Sacramento, CA - October 15, 2009 - Family Values Financial Services announces that we are teaming up with Gold Ribbon Financial and Pentultimate Associates to form your "One-Stop" Financial Services Shop.

We specialize in Investment Services...Capital Growth and Cash Flow Investments are our specialty.

We offer Capital Acquisition Services...Unsecured Personal, Business and Corporate Lines of Credit.

We are experts at Credit Management Services...Credit Education, Credit Enhancement and Credit Restoration.

We offer Debt Resolution Services...Mortgage Modifications, Debt Elimination, Credit Counseling and Bankruptcy Assistance.

We offer Professional Organization Services...LLC Formations, Corporate Acquisitions, Corporate Compliancy, Trust Formations and Limited Family Partnership Formations.
Our Special Website "Pre-Launch" Offer Expires Soon !!!

Here's a special offer for new clients only. Our Principal Protection Program allows you to earn a guaranteed 21.92% monthly on your deposit for six months. The minimum funding amount is $6,000. You'll receive a "Cash Flow" distribution of $1,000 per month for six months, then you'll receive your $6,000 initial funding amount back in full. You may opt to rollover your $6,000 for another six months. The maximum funding amount for this program is $60,000.

After your first 6 months of participation, you may also rollover into a "Capital Growth" option whereby your deposit amount will triple in six months.

If you only have $1,000 in available funding, you can choose a special deposit account that earns a guaranteed 12.25% each month for sixteen months. Your account balance will grow to over $6,000 in that timeframe, and you may then rollover your funds into the Principal Protection Program.

This special offer expires soon!!! When our new website launches (very soon), the guaranteed returns will be lower and the minimum funding amounts will be higher.

For more information and an application, please e-mail J.D. "Uncle Dave" Matthews at fvfs.dave.matthews@gmail.com.

About Family Values Financial Services

Family Values Financial Services is your first "One-Stop" Financial Services shop.

Visit our Website and Register

Please visit our website at www.familyvaluesinvestments.com and click on register to be kept informed of future special offers for new and existing clients.

Family Values Financial Services
J.D. "Uncle Dave" Matthews
President/CEO

fvfs.dave.matthews@gmail.com

www.familyvaluesinvestments.com

Principal Protection Program is a registered trademark of Family Values Financial Services. All right reserved.

 
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October 17 2009, 12:29 AM 

an old trick, they use a principal protection note which is a structured note, meaning a derivative and a one of the reasons the damage from Lehman Brothers Bankruptcy was so high; they can be a big black hole, I'm surprised they use this to offer and even quote the high return, sure it is possible with a high leverage factor but risky, its not illegal to quote a return, just stupid, it is illegal only when you do not provide the complete risk assessment.

As far as Family Values Financial Services goes, wwww.familyvaluesinvestments.com, they link to Gold Ribbon Financial,http://www.goldribbonfinancial.com/, and Pentultimate Associates,
However there is also the Cease and desist order from the California Department of Corporations, which kind of throws a wench into the machinations:

DESIST AND REFRAIN ORDER

State of California - Department of Corporations
STATE OF CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS, TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING AGENCY
DEPARTMENT OF CORPORATIONS
TO: Pentultimate Associates, LLC
dba Pentultimate Associates Financial Services
9630 Bruceville Road
Suite No. 106-111
Elk Grove, CA 95757
Gold Ribbon Financial
9245 Laguna Springs Drive, Suite 200
Elk Grove, CA 95758
David J. Ribeiro
4304 46
th
Ave.
Sacramento, CA 95824
DESIST AND REFRAIN ORDER
(For violations of sections 25110 and 25401 of the Corporations Code)
The California Corporations Commissioner finds that:
1.
Pentultimate Associates, LLC is doing business as Pentultimate Associates Financial Services
(Pentultimate), with a reported business address of 9630 Bruceville Road, Suite 106-111, Elk
Grove, California 95757.
2.
David J. Ribeiro (Ribeiro) holds himself out to prospective investors as the CEO and
Director of Investment Operations for Pentultimate.
3.
Gold Ribbon Financial (Gold Ribbon) is an entity with a reported business address of 9245
Laguna Springs Drive, Suite 200, Elk Grove, California 95758. Ribeiro is a control person of Gold
Ribbon.
4.
Gold Ribbon and Pentultimate are currently advertising investments on craigslist.com to
California investors. Both entities use the same investment offering language in their postings.
5.
Gold Ribbon and Pentultimate offer foreign currency trading via a Credit Union Co-Op
Account with a return of up to two-hundred and seventy six percent (276%) per year.
6.
These investments are securities under the California Corporate Securities Law of 1968
(CSL) and were offered or sold in this state in an issuer transaction.
7.
The Department of Corporations has not issued a permit or other form of qualification
authorizing any person to offer or sell these securities in this state.
8.
In connection with these offers or sales, Pentultimate, Gold Ribbon, and Ribeiro omitted
material facts, including that the Texas State Securities Board issued an Emergency Cease and Desist
Order to Gold Ribbon, Pentultimate, and Ribeiro on May 8, 2009, as a result of unregulated offers of
securities, and that Ribeiro is currently on probation in California as a result of a felony charge of
grand theft.
The California Corporations Commissioner is of the opinion that the Credit Union Co-Op
foreign exchange accounts offered by Pentultimate, Gold Ribbon, and Ribeiro are securities subject
to qualification under the California Corporate Securities Law of 1968 (CSL) and are being or have
been offered or sold without being qualified or exempt, in violation of section 25110 of the CSL.
The California Corporations Commissioner is of the further opinion that securities were offered or
sold by means of written or oral communications that failed to include material facts that were
necessary in order to make the statements made, in light of the circumstances under which they were
made, not misleading, in violation of section 25401 of the Corporations Code.
Pursuant to section 25532 of the CSL, Pentultimate Associates, LLC, doing business as
Pentultimate Associates Financial Services, Gold Ribbon Financial, and David J. Ribeiro are hereby
ordered to desist and refrain from the further offer or sale in the State of California of securities,
including but not limited to investment contracts in the form of foreign exchange investments via
Credit Union Co-Op Accounts or otherwise, unless and until qualification has been made under
said law or unless exempt. In addition, Pentultimate Associates, LLC, doing business as
Pentultimate Associates Financial Services, Gold Ribbon Financial, and David J. Ribeiro are hereby
ordered to desist and refrain from offering or selling securities, including but not limited to
investment contracts in the form of foreign exchange accounts, in this state by means of any written
or oral communication which includes an untrue statement of a material fact or omits to state a
material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in light of the circumstances under
which they are made, not misleading.
This Order is necessary, in the public interest, for the protection of investors and consistent
with the purposes, policies, and provisions of the CSL.
Dated: September 2, 2009
Los Angeles, California
PRESTON DuFAUCHARD
California Corporations Commissioner
By_____________________________
ALAN S. WEINGER
Deputy Commissioner



The lesson: You better have a license and the right people and show all the risk

 
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Re: offer

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October 17 2009, 10:00 AM 

Thanks Richard for your always wise counsel.
Much appreciated.

 
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good stuff

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October 19 2009, 3:19 PM 

Thank you RL for this good info!!!
We are all better educated because of your professional
input on this forum!!!
All the best,
Mike

 
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