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Anyone here know how to change the trigger tension, (how hard it is the pull the trigger), on a Daisy Powerline 1000? There should be a screw right aroudn the trigger that does that, right?
I have gotten pretty good with my springer but, I have noticed that when I pull the trigger, it is so tight that it moves me slightly off the target. I'm pretty acurate as it is but, if it would make me more accurate, then I want to do it! LOL!
Just wondering!
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Oct 3, 2008, 11:46 PM from IP address 205.188.117.19
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If it is a single screw, 1st stage take up will be its job. It will have no bearing on the 2nd stage weight. That can be made a bit better by some moly. Other options would be trigger inserts.......
There is a trigger in front of the trigger and a larger one behind (aft) of the trigger.
I saw another site where some guy is selling a longer screw for softening the trigger pull on my model and sking $10.00 (USD)for it so, I assume that one of the two screws is an adjustment I just don't know which one. It sucks being dumb. Luckily, I only have to be stupid once! LOL!
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Oct 6, 2008, 2:24 AM from IP address 205.188.117.19
Typically, the rear screw holds the action inside the stock...
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and the front screw is used to adjust the trigger. My guess is that the front screw only adjusts the first stage travel. Before I send you in a wrong direction, it would be best to have a schematic and the manual. If you can't find either by way of good old Google, try emailing Daisy from their website.
Once you find out the real deal, be sure to post about it so others who have similar interest can find the information. Good luck and be safe when messing with triggers!
LL
Posted on Oct 11, 2008, 10:22 AM from IP address 70.44.232.219
I woke up this morning and delivered my papers, I got home and went out front to play with the dogs. As I went out side I noticed my dog Jayden barking so I looked at what she barking at. I saw her, a young gray squirrel about 80 yards. I quickly Ran into my house grabbed my 1377carbine and a hand full of Crossman wad cutters. As I went back out side I didn’t see the squirrel anymore, I figured he went into my grandpas back yard where all the nut trees are. I quickly trotted to their favorite tree, a tall black oak with many bushy limbs And sure enough there she was, sitting right at the base of the tree looking strait at me. I raised my gun up just so I could get a better view of her because at this point I was probably 50 yards away from her. I circled low and very slowly I got within 20 yards and she took up the tree! I waited for a little bit but she never showed so I walked around the tree very slowly and spotted her looking at me with her left eye about 15 yards up, raised my gun aimed at the side of her head and let the little piece of lead fly. I was assured with a loud thwack noise and a crashing through the leaves as she hit the ground she did her death roll for about 15 seconds and expired. All in all a great way to start the season.
The pellet went right where I intended, in between the eye and ear.
Jon
teamblue125mx@yahoo.com
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Posted on Oct 1, 2008, 2:56 PM from IP address 24.140.17.158
can u guys tell me alittle ( or alot lol) about the fx whisper? in .22c cal.? like how many shots per fill, how accurate is it?, thanks in advance guys:)
Posted on Sep 20, 2008, 10:28 PM from IP address 64.12.117.19
Pelletholders are now available in three pad thickness to use with newer, longer pellets. Most standard pellets work with a .250" pad; pointed pellets, .177 Predators work with a .325" pad; .22 Predators work with a .425" pad. www.pelletholder.com has been updated to allow you to make this choice and order with credit cards.The pellet should be inserted into the pad with the skirt flush with the surface of the pad. You may need one of each pad thickness. David Phillips
Posted on Sep 18, 2008, 5:37 PM from IP address 205.188.117.19
I assume that "Oorah" realizes that power is not everything. Accuracy is the most important aspect of any shooting one might do. When you bought your newest rifle, did the company provide you with any foot per second information? That would be key to figuring out the power of the rifle. Of course, the manufacturers estimated FPS is usually based on a pellet that is too light for any real animal shooting. Nonetheles, it gives you a place to start from.
I am assuming that you are interesterd in the "effective take down range" more so than the "power" though. The best way I've found to figure that out is to go out and shoot it at something a specific distance away. Mine will shoot through a half inch sheet of plywood at 33 meters with little problem. Well, there is a problem. Due to neighbors living near by, I have to use something thicker than half inch plywood!
Oorah, now is your chance to brag on those groups! With my DPL-1000, I can get three inch groups at about thirty-three meters. I can do better if I brace myself against something first though. My DPL-1000 is a springer and has a litle more recoil than a .22 powder burner. It's also a little muzzle heavy and that makes it somewhat off balance.
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Sep 17, 2008, 4:54 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
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but the PSP modified can get up into the 25 fpe range. The power issue is pretty much covered, especially with heavy lead. The challenge is keeping a tight group out at your planned hunting distance. A PSP392 is a cannon!
LL
Posted on Sep 17, 2008, 4:32 PM from IP address 70.44.232.219
It might be useful if someone posted that formula for figuring out the FPE again. I remember it being on here a few months back but, for the life of me, I can't remember which topic it was under or exactly how it goes.
for instance, my rifle has a muzzle velocity of 1,000 feet per second...etc
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Sep 19, 2008, 5:06 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
A few months ago I started looking into buying an airgun to become a coke can sniper lol. Well this past weekend I took my 66 powermaster down to the country and did a little squirrel hunting. My first time out I bagged 3 nutters. I learned real quick that this was not as easy as I thought it was going to be but boy is it fun. My buddy gave me a Gamo Delta. It's a little bit heavier than the 66 but just as fun for me. I'm thinking of continuing my slowly growing collection with a Benji 397. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for tuning me in to a great new hobby and post more pictures...I've got nothing better to look at when work gets slow.
Posted on Sep 2, 2008, 9:57 AM from IP address 132.22.254.237
I dont know if any one remembers me, it has prolbaly been 2 years since I have last loged in here. Anyway I just wanted to say hello. I am going to try and remember to get on here more often.
P.S. Led, hows your lab? she is probaly full grown by now.
Jon
teamblue125mx@yahoo.com
Posted on Sep 1, 2008, 3:16 PM from IP address 24.140.100.30
As for the air rifles, I have a daisy powerline 880 and a Daisy Powerline 1000. I have a pistol too but, it on;y shoots BBs and although it is a Daisy, I really don't remember what type it is. I'll try to get that info before I log back on.
My Dad turned me on to pellet rifles and BB guns when I was around 6. He bought "us" a daisy lever action BB gun of some kid and a Daisy that was similar to the Powerline 880 that I have now. We ended up wearing both of them out long before I even go into my teens!
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Sep 3, 2008, 2:29 AM from IP address 205.188.117.19
Steel Breech.... $30
Flat face piston.... $25
Flat face valve, modded..... $25
14 inch 2289 barrel.... $10
This alone should yield approximately 550fps with 14.3gr pellets in .22 at 12 pumps... plenty enough for small game within reason.
If you just need a little more velocity, add a steel breech and a longer barrel. You can cut away a few threads on the valve, port it, polish it, and install a lighter valve spring and get significant gains as well.
Posted on Sep 1, 2008, 11:35 PM from IP address 75.143.201.2
I know this isn't any help but, when I started wanting a little more range and take down power at distance, I just went and bought another air rifle! I had a Daisy powerline 880 and when it no longer served my purposes, I bought a Daiswy Powerline 1000. I hvaen't been disapointed yet.
Of course, if you are just looking to do the modifications for personal entertainment, well, that's one thing but, you need more power for the game you're after, it's a lot of work for something that is sitting on the self at the local store.
I'm not tryingto put you off the hobby r anything but, I liek to keep things simple. "Why mod if I can buy?".
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Sep 2, 2008, 1:01 AM from IP address 205.188.117.19
by Rob in NC (Login rob3dr) Airgunhunters message board/moderators
I think some people simply want to get something out of nothing... they want a quick fix. Perhaps they think it will be cheaper... and it can be... but often, when you add up the costs of all the 'little things' you've surpassed the cost of a different gun.
For many, including myself, tinkering is the fun part. I have 7 or 8 13xx guns that I've modded and I enjoy the process. Granted, after modding them, I typically dont shoot them a lot, but there is something to be said for joy of ownership. I just like having them!
but.... to your original point... yes, financially and practically, it tends to make sense just to get the right tool for the job to begin with rather than try to make a gun into something it's not designed to be.
Posted on Sep 2, 2008, 8:19 AM from IP address 152.133.7.66
I agree whole heartedly. Also, there is the issue of "If you're not really good at tearnig an air rifle apart, (I am - sort of), and also REALLY good at putting it back together with the desired modifications, (I am deffinately not), would you really want to put it next to your face and pull the trigger? (Not this air gunner!).
Unless one knows enough about what you are doing to not need a lot of modification advice from a web site, then one should probably just go get "the right tool for the job". WalMart, for one, has an excellant selection of air rifles for the cost.
Buying a gun that you know is reasonably safe is usually cheaper than a hospital visit and is ALWAYS less painful in the long run!
Just my opinion though.
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Sep 3, 2008, 2:37 AM from IP address 205.188.117.19
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Now that is a problem many of us face. Why? I am not completely sure. I think it is because we want to have the most PERFECTLY reassembled / tuned airgun in the world. I like having that Frankenstein on the work bench, just waiting to show the world what I know. Often it is nothing at all, but it just feels good!
And as you say, I then go online to buy a shooter. Still, I keep that junk box with a hope and a prayer! Like the lotto, ya never know!
LL
Posted on Sep 3, 2008, 5:50 PM from IP address 70.44.232.219
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Sitting with my first cup of coffee this morning, I found some quiet time to check out Cliff's DVD release, "Airgun Hunting the California Ground Squirrel". Sarah was sitting in her usual spot, just under my feet. Together we ventured off into this video, amazed at the sounds, slow motion effects and riveting shots from both camera and rifle. I remember thinking to myself," If not for that rattle snake, Sarah would be retrieving those pests." I was literally sucked into this video with the dog by my side!
Of course I'll watch this again on the bigger screen, but I needed to sneak this one in there. One thing that I found very pleasing was Cliff's succinct comments. He covers slicing the wind, hold-over, basic equipment, technique, critters' behavior, environment, looking into the shadows, trajectory mapping, rifles and pellets without overkill. Most dear to my heart is his emphasis on the laser range finder. With all the other variables he was up against in that environment, knowing the distance wasn't an issue. And don't you know that it showed in his precision? Peek-a-boo!
Being an amateur photographer, I can appreciate the work involved with simple stills. This is a monumental composition of video shooting, editing and publishing. In my opinion, "Airgun Hunting the California Ground Squirrel" is the best spent $20 in our great sport, and will hold dear to both experienced and novice airgun hunters.
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Not exactly big game hunters, these sisters can land pellets one on top of the next out to 30 yards. They sure can clean up backyard pests, and look good while doing it! Both .177 caliber rifles love JSB Exacts.
LL
Posted on Aug 17, 2008, 5:20 PM from IP address 70.44.232.219
by LedLauncher (Premier Login ledlauncher) Airgunhunters message board/moderators
that like Remington, Beeman and other big names, they are selling less expensive Chinese or Spanish imports to make a buck off the relabeling. Just a hunch. I'd love to see a new kid on the airgun block make quality hardware such as the "R" series, but I don't think it will happen.
As childish as this might seem, there is a picture of Winnie the Poo I am looking for and was wondering if any of you either had it or know where I might be able to get a copy of it from. Why? Well, no it's not just to be childish! LOL!
The picture is of Winnie carrying an AR-15/M-16 with a caption above him that said "I'm off to the range".
Now, my son is very young and I wanted to get this picture for him. His room is decorated in images from that book series, (his Moms idea, not mine), and I thought that this would be a cool one to frame for his wall.
If any of you happen to have it or run across it, please let me know!
While I have your attention, have any of you ever seen a BB gun that is made to look like an AK-47? I saw one at a flea market about two years ago and I could kick myself for not buying it. It was made a little smaller than the real rifle and would fit in my sons hands almost perfect in a few more years. If anyone knows where I might be able to find it, I would appreciate you letting me know!
Thanks again!
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Aug 6, 2008, 5:20 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
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Though I did look around a bit...
the gun you reference is likely an XS-B3-1. This is a variant of the Chinese B3. I have a couple B3's and for the money, they are fun little guns. This of course depends on what you expect out of them. Accuracy is decent, that is to say that 20 yard groups should fall in under an inch with no problem. Velocity should be around the 600fps mark with most mid weight pellets.
There are a number of modifications one can do with the little B3's. My B3-1 has been deburred and properly lubed, a buttstock added for a bit longer LOP on the metal stock, and has the sights removed for addition of a scope or red dot. While not a very refined rifle, they are built like a tank.
Posted on Aug 6, 2008, 8:49 AM from IP address 152.133.7.66
This sounds like the kind of thing that I am looking for! Thanks! Is the B-3 variant available from any particular chain store or would I come out ahead to try and get it off of the internet somewhere?
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Aug 7, 2008, 2:53 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
i got this squirrel with my new daisy 880s out of a tree from 20 yards with 4x15 scope i had got many more since then but this was the first and it was huge
i got this squirrel in my back yard in a house in kentucky after hours of sighting the gun but it was well worth it
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Posted on Aug 5, 2008, 11:12 PM from IP address 74.130.114.248
Aaron:
Congrats on the squirrel! Nothing like blooding the new pellet rifle with tree rat! LOL! You must be in Georgia to get on tht size though. Just wondering.
I had a Daisy 880 a while back. It came with a scope and was a pretty good rifle. I got a lot of enjoyment out of it. Mine was reasonably accurate out to about 20 meters as well. At around 30 meters I was shooting about a foot diameter pattern though.
Why am I not still using it? I wore it out! LOL! Actually, I think that one of the gaskets in it must have dried out and or ruptured. It's still; in the back room. It still shoots even but, no where near the FPS that it should have. Nonetheless, it was a good rifle to get back into pellet/BB shooting with. (I used to have one when I was a kid that my Dad got me. He wore that one out! LOL!)
Now I am using a Daisy Powerline 1000. It's a springer so, it's a little more powerful and it's reasonably accurate out to about 40 meters. Of course, being a springer, it has about as much recoil as a .22 powder burner.
Still, you got a great pellet rifle and a great first kill with it! Keep it up! Safe shooting and have fun!
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Aug 6, 2008, 5:05 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
Kentucky is a nice state to live in. I've been through there a number of times.
The best thing about the Daisy 880 is no recoil. It really allows you to practice the all important shot placement. My DP 1000 was a little difficult to handle until I got the hang of it. I do wish my old 880 was still in fighting form though. I miss it.
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Aug 7, 2008, 2:56 AM from IP address 64.12.117.19
These are some of the 16 g-hogs I took this summer with my Diana 36 .177. My 350 .22 has been away for a while getting an advanced tune but the 36 worked superbly at close range (25yds or less) and wiped out almost all of the g-hogs in my back yard before even the Condor arrived. These are the adult g-hogs with 1-2 young adults. I will not bother posting pics of younger ones.
The 36 is basically the same as a Diana 34 (highly recommended!) but with better wood. It puts out 13.6 - 14.2ft-lbs of muzzle energy using 7.9 to 8.3gr pellets. These G-hogs were taken with either 7.9gr Crosman Hollow Points (CPHP's) or 8.3gr Superdomes. On the Chrony CPHP's ranged from 899-920fps, and the Superdomes 860-870fps. These 8 to 15.6lb ground dwellers were shot between 19 and 25yds, with 1 shot to the head (between eye & ear), all on my property. A 2nd shot was sometimes taken but was not needed. I just feel comfortable putting another one in them because they 're very tough and make me nervous when they move a little because I 've lost a couple of them over the years when I thought they were dead or were going to stay down. A different gun may be depicted once or twice because I didn't want to get the 36 wet.
Only head shots will bring these animals down. Do not attempt anything but.. I 've seen them take bullets from 30-30 and 30-06 to the body, and still managed to walk or crawl to their hole.
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AirForce Condor .22
Diana 350 .22
Diana 36 .177
Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240/2300XT Custom
A few other Crosman CO2 & Pump .177
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Posted on Aug 4, 2008, 8:58 PM from IP address 71.169.21.198
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The 36 was my first adult airgun. I got one when I was around 9 or 10... saved up for a couple years selling beans and mowing lawns to get it. I could barely cock it and it was far too heavy for me, but still... it was mine and I loved it...haha
I know what you mean about the body shots on whistle pigs. They are certainly tough animals. Makes us realize just how fragile we as humans are when we step on a shard of glass and immediately set down and stop... then we see a 15lb animal take a shot with a .22LR and still manage to run to cover..haha
Posted on Aug 6, 2008, 8:54 AM from IP address 152.133.7.66
Well, I figured that this might just be a phase I'm going through so I bought a cheapo crosman 66 powermaster. For now I've just been shooting at targets and I have to say it is pretty accurate. Not sure if it will be powerfull enough for hunting though. Supposedly shoots pellets 645 fps. Anyone ever used this gun for small game?
Posted on Aug 4, 2008, 8:52 AM from IP address 132.22.254.237
Yes you can use it for hunting but you must get close to your prey. I owned a 66 Powermaster about 20yrs ago. I still have it and it works well.
It does about 640fps with BB's, not pellets. BB's are much lighter than pellets. With 7.9gr pellets you will get approximately 570-580fps which is about 5.8 ft-lbs of energy at the muuzle.
You can take birds out to 30+yds with it and mice/rats to 25yds. You can also shoot squirrel but you must be within 15yds. I got a few squirrels and rabbits from 10 to 15yds but you have to shoot them in the head or neck. Do not aim for the body or you will surely lose them. They 'll run away and die in their nest suffering. It takes 3.5-4fpe on impact to kill a squirrel or cottontail so you must make sure you are within 15yds because your pellet will start losing energy the moment it leaves the barrel. Most of the time it required a follow up shot for me but that's because I didn't have a scope but I managed to disable most of them first so it was no problem taking another shot at them. Get yourself a scope so you can shoot accurately at their head right behind the eye. Buy some Crosman Premier pointed pellets (the red/dark blue large round tin) from Walmart. You 'll need all the penetration you can get. I had the most success with pointed pellets. Make sure they are the Premier line. I had good luck with neck shots too but it took them a while to expire (10-30secs). I had better luck with head shots when shooting "fur" and never had an exit wound no matter how close they were. Again try to get as close as you can because you don't have much power to work with. Set your limit to 15yds for rabbit & squirrel and you should start racking up some good kills with proper shot placement.
The 66 is a good starter gun. You can upgrade to a used spring-piston rifle after you 've had enough of the 66 or feel the need for more power. There are many on the Yellow (forum) classifieds. My suggestion is to look for a used German RWS Diana 34 (or 34 Panther - synthetic stock). They are the best bang for the buck. They usually go for $130-150. They average 800-900fps in .177 depending on the weight of the pellet. You can take out small game with those at 35-40yds with proper shot placement. They are extremely accurate. Again it's all about shot placement and knowing the energy your pellet carries down range at various distances.
AirForce Condor .22
Diana 350 .22
Diana 36 .177
Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240/2300XT Custom
A few other Crosman CO2 & Pump .177
Posted on Aug 4, 2008, 8:27 PM from IP address 71.169.21.198
and found it rather effective on rats, grackle, and such out to 20yds or so. The accuracy on mine went away fairly quickly past that distance. After it got ran over, I replaced it with a Daisy 953. It is not as powerful as the 66 but it is definantly more accurate.
I've taken squirrel past 20yds and grackle at 30yds with the Daisy***, and as long as the accuracy is there, I wouldn't hesitate to do the same with the 66.
Accuracy is the most important thing to consider. Find the pellet the gun prefers and the distance it will maintain it's accuracy and have at it. If you follow the link you will see I prefer head shots, but shoulder/chest shots can be effective as well.
Not quite the same as the OP was asking about but, I was taking squirrels and some birds at around 30 meters with a Daisy 880 last summer. I was using a scope that I calibrated to that distance but, it had enough punch that far out.
If G-d didn't want us to shoot animals, then why did he make them so tasty?
Posted on Aug 9, 2008, 5:43 AM from IP address 205.188.117.19
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The one most accurate in your gun. Not to sound like a broken record, but with airguns, it's all about shot placement. Try different pellets in your gun at the range you intend to shoot your quarry and find out what pellet groups best. Use that pellet.... be it a wadcutter, dome, or hollowpoint.. the most lethal shot is the one that hits it's intended target.
Usually... at ranges of more than 30 yards, dome pellets prevail over pointed or hollow point... but thats not always the case. Just have to experiment and find out.
Posted on Aug 2, 2008, 10:26 PM from IP address 75.143.195.128
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When the CFX was hot on the market, they were going for more... now the prices have seemed to level out. Just list what you think is fair and let the consumers decide if your price is too high. You can always add 'or best offer' after your asking price to allow leeway.
Posted on Aug 2, 2008, 10:27 PM from IP address 75.143.195.128
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I replaced it with a Daisy 953. It is not as powerful as the 66 but it is definantly more accurate.