Germans are the ONLY European nation that i respectED(not todays useless,weak Germans)...
Bismarck united the previously disparate states in the 19th century and changed history like never before...No nation ever,got together then made the world go through two world wars in such a short time...
When i looked at the pictures i thought of the fact that Germans were real strong ONCE and that there is nothing left of those days,sad but true...
"Her Türk ferdinin son nefesi, Türk Milletinin nefesinin sönmeyeceğini, onun ebedi olduğunu göstermelidir."
Hitler invaded half of Europe for Germans and it's against the law in Germany(and several other countries) to say ''i like hitler''...
Nearly all wars movies are based on how cruel,bestial Germans are...
When a right wing party takes over goverment in Austria,the whole worlds protests Austria...
When someone gets pissed of at a German they say ''stupid nazi'' and justify there situation...
Germans can't do anything back,that's what i was trying to say...No need to get cheeky...
"Her Türk ferdinin son nefesi, Türk Milletinin nefesinin sönmeyeceğini, onun ebedi olduğunu göstermelidir."
"Nearly all wars movies are based on how cruel,bestial Germans are..."
Sadly, I agreed. None of the movies I seen based on WW2 really represent humaneness of being Germans. Always and most of time showed violence and deaths. Make them think, why do they do that or this. And they don't even know their people have done violence and discrimination on other people as well.
>>No nation ever,got together then made the world go through two world wars in such a short time...<<
I dont understand, are you meaning this as good thing, something Germany should be proud of, im sorry but sarcasm doesnt travel across the internet very well.
>>Sadly, I agreed. None of the movies I seen based on WW2 really represent humaneness of being Germans<<
I agree but Hollywood needs a bad guy and as far as WW2 is concerned the Germans tend to fit the role. For most other films the English and Russians tend be the favoured baddies.
Istanbul-boy admires the Nazis because he can relate to their policies of ethnic-cleansing and genocide, as perpetrated by the Turks only a generation prior. Hollywood will never let us forget what Germany did in WWII since it included killing 6 million Jews. Now if Ataturk had killed 600 Jews, then Hollywood would make sure we would never forgot that. As it happened he only killed Greeks and Armenians and we don't matter that much.
The Serbs rioted to the Ottomans in 1804 but became independent in 1878...
The Greeks rioted in 1821 and became independent in 1829...
Just so the Greeks could part from the Ottomans there western brothers pressured and threatened the Ottomans. England,France,Russia,Austria worked together for Greece and when the threats didn't work they burnt the Ottoman navy in Navarin.When even that didn't work Russia declared war to the Ottomans and forced the Ottomans to accept a independent Greek state...
Unlike Greece some nations WARED for independence or to unite...Unlike Greeks,Germans didn't get there country as a present from western nations...Therefore Bismarck is a hero and i respect him...
---
Just cause of Nazis no one has the right to make ALL Germans suffer but unfortunately cause of fascists like you it happens...
Noone makes ALL Greeks suffer for there massacres of Turks and cause of there attempt to invade Anatolia...
Noone makes ALL Greek Cypriots suffer for the genocide they done to Turkish Cypriots...
Noone makes ALL Greeks suffer cause of there support to terrorist that killed over 33 000 people and left over 150 000 war veterans in Turkey...
---
Greeks are followers of Hitler,cause;
-They massacred Turks in Cyprus
-They massacred Macedonians in Greece
-They massacred muslims in the West Thrace
-They STILL massacre Albanians in Greece
OPTI,IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH HITLER STOP GREEKS FROM FOLLOWING IN HIS FOOT STEPS...
---------------------------------------
@ ChongLi
''>>No nation ever,got together then made the world go through two world wars in such a short time...<<
I dont understand, are you meaning this as good thing, something Germany should be proud of, im sorry but sarcasm doesnt travel across the internet very well. ''
No i was not being sarcastic,i truelly respect Germans like Bismarck and how Germans changed world history in such a short time...I mean Italy united around the same times as Germans but they didn't effect history at all,well maybe they had a few attempts that resulted with failure but that's it...
----
"Her Türk ferdinin son nefesi, Türk Milletinin nefesinin sönmeyeceğini, onun ebedi olduğunu göstermelidir."
I have several German exchange students at my school. They don't like to talk that much unless you know them really well then they might come and talk to you instead. The girls were like 5"+ and the guys were like 6"+ tall. I can't imagine them being together someday. Although I maybe wrong.
1. The photos are very good. The period/event was historically significant, DUH, so the more known, the better. Even though the expression, "A picture is worth a thousand words" was an advertisement slogan falsely attributed to Chinese philosopher Confucius, images contain an impact that words sometimes lack. For example, how could you describe to someone the quality of the camouflage job of the BF-109?
2. It is illogical to hold an individual responsible for the actions of others that they’ve never met, even if they are related by blood or nationality. There are few Germans alive today that participated in WWII today. There are few Israelis alive today that participated in the fight for independence. There are no Spaniards alive today that participated in their brutal conquest of Latin America. There are no Europeans alive today that participated in the Holy Land Crusades. There are no church officials alive today that participated in the Spanish Inquisitions. Let the present generation create their own legacies.
3. It is illogical to stereotype an entire nation, race, religion, etc. Not all Americans are redneck cowboys, not all Scandinavian girls are beautiful, though IMHO the majority are, not all Russians believe that Stalin was a good guy, even for Russia, not all Arabs are terrorists, not all Muslims want all non-Muslims to be converted or killed, etc.
“Greeks are followers of Hitler,cause;
-They massacred Turks in Cyprus
-They massacred Macedonians in Greece
-They massacred muslims in the West Thrace
-They STILL massacre Albanians in Greece”
?????????????
Cyprus/Thrace: Its better to know nothing than know half the trough or even worst, not the trough! The last applies for u.
Albania? What the...Criminality razed dramatically because they came to Greece and we massacre them? Check out our jails they are full of Albanian mafia. By the way do you know what massacre means? I dought! Then open a book if you have in turkey.
Admit it you wish turkey could to the same with Germany. You didn’t you cant and We will not ever allow u. At least Germany admitted her mistake.
Hitler was indeed an admirer of the Ancient Greek Couture and architecture but we Greeks followers of Hitler? U r completely nuts…
Just so the Greeks could part from the Ottomans there western brothers pressured and threatened the Ottomans
Dude you aren't brothers to greeks, you are not european and never will be.
By the way Hitler was manipulative pyschopath and a total loser who couldn't control his emotion. How can anyone respect a man who at the end of the war had no nerve left at all and was trembling. He never cared for the germans, his only aim was his own power and it his eyes germans were mere tools. By the german states except for Prussia were always a peaceful civilised societies.
See that people, this is one of those barbarians seeking entry into the EU. No compromise with them, in war they shall be annilated without pity. Uncivilised and totally morally repulsive people doesn't deserve to live.
-------------------------------------------- Power of a god in the hand of a man.
This message has been edited by Eric_De_La_Legion on Mar 19, 2005 2:41 AM
1453, the ottomans were another aggressive and barbaric islamic force that tried to sweep the world and subdue them under islamic law as it's the barbaric nature of islam. The ottomans had no right to invade greece and there's nothing wrong with christian europe taking it back. Christian europe was never the aggressor. The crusades were a series of semi-successful defensive campiagns against the arabic expansion that's out of control. And you chose such a year as your pen name, you must be very proud that the ottomans slaughtered so many europeans who were much more advanced, humane and democratic than them.
You forgot to mention how the crusaders killed all the jews and non believers if they didn't convert on their way to Jerusalem, not to mention all the innocent muslims they killed, raped and tortured.
And don't forget all those missionaries throughout Africa, Asia and South America who go there with tons and tons of rice, and only give those who convert and goto church food. Have you ever seen the movie Motorcycle Diaries?
This message has been edited by PappaRage on Mar 25, 2005 2:11 AM
--------------------------------------
Long Live our Soviet Motherland,
Built by the People's mighty hand.
Long Live our People, United and Free.
Strong in our Friendship tried by fire.
Long may our Crimson Flag Inspire,
Shining in Glory for all Men to see.
Current Topic - ww2 photos (colour & clear-- large pics)
