Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
February 21 2005, 2:52 AM
Some of the armours/shields looks arabic/persian/islamic, or at least, heavily influenced.
Well, Most of the armouries posted here are actually pure Indian, except the elite armour, that armour includes a traditional Indian armour with a Mughal helmet...
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
February 21 2005, 9:22 AM
Yes i was actually referring to the helmets...should have been more specific. The design and distinctive nose guards kinda gives it away. But not a surprised considering the amount of contact they had throughout history. And yeah that "elite" armor looks badass hehe...i think that must be the armour of lords and kings i guess...
Do you have more pictures of the Tulwar? I like those.
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
February 21 2005, 8:58 PM
Philippines:
spears...
swords...
armor...
"Do not weep, do not announce my death. Beat the drum,
blow the trumpet, wave the flag for advance. We are
still fighting. Finish the enemy to the last
one."-Admiral Yi Sun-Shin, November 19, 1598
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
February 22 2005, 1:03 AM
Yes i was actually referring to the helmets...should have been more specific. The design and distinctive nose guards kinda gives it away. But not a surprised considering the amount of contact they had throughout history. And yeah that "elite" armor looks badass hehe...i think that must be the armour of lords and kings i guess...
Do you have more pictures of the Tulwar? I like those.
Well, many Indian helmets were adopted from islamic styles, but the bulk of the Indian weaponry remained indigenous like the artillery, armour, shields and swords.
Here are more talwars:
And some other swords:
And some arrows used by us:
North India
South India
A common bow
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 7 2005, 12:08 AM
Weapons of the Ming, Han, Song, Tang, Qin, Qing dynasties.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 7 2005, 4:19 AM
lol haha yea i noticed the similarity also. I also noticed that the Assamese helmet looks like the helmets used by Burmese and Thai armies of the 14th and 15th century. Interesting.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 7 2005, 6:24 AM
Ming silk outfits
This is a cavalier armour and horse of the Ming dynasty China
Han soldiery.
Mongol armor
Mongol lamellar, notice the light armor of the mongol cavalier; speed was the essence in victory, not full armor
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 7 2005, 10:43 PM
How could you forget the armoured elephants:
Notice the leg guards and tower are missing:
Here are some pics:
Alexader's impression of an Indian elephant:
There were also times when elephants carried cannons on their towers . It was also common to see elephants carrying giant crossbow weapons on their towers...
War Elephants became obsolete by 14-15th century in India. They were the most powerful piece on the field, and were well armoured and well trained. It was common to see them swing large (specially designed) swords, maces and chained iron balls.
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This message has been edited by Darkness1089 on Mar 7, 2005 11:08 PM
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 7 2005, 11:21 PM
The helmet looks very turkish in design.<br /> Funny though, how would the soldier see with the mail covering the whole face with no slots for the eyes? :D
I try to find a pic for comparison, although the armor is beautiful. I do suspect its more of a ceremonial piece rather than one you take to battle, could be wrong though.
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Force Without Justice Is Tyrannical.
This message has been edited by Runekeeper on Mar 7, 2005 11:22 PM
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 8 2005, 2:25 AM
Wow very nice; the armour on those elephants are quite similar to the ones of the Thai empires of Sukkothai and Ayuthaya as well as the Bagan Burmese Empire states and the Khmer Empire of Cambodia. Nice.
Impressive Iranian armor.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 8 2005, 2:23 PM
The helmet looks very turkish in design.<br /> Funny though, how would the soldier see with the mail covering the whole face with no slots for the eyes? :D
lol....
Its quite interesting, I never knew Turkics had helmets siilar to us. But the on I showed in colour is full Rajput armour, the one in black-and-white has a turkic helmet...
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 8 2005, 2:26 PM
Oh, and about the elephants carrying cannons on their towers, it never really caught on because the cannon was quite heavy and the boom from the cannons made the elephant's balance quite unstable...
It was extra expensive and risky, but it looked good
Nice Iranian armour...
and a question to the Phillipino guy, are those armouries of Spanish origin? The helmets look very European....
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 8 2005, 7:55 PM
Well considering that the Seljuk turks took control of most of central asia, im sure they played in important influence in India; I know that some iranian armor (Sassanid Empire) greatly conquored northern indian regions, im sure cultural and military influence was taken during their rule.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 9 2005, 12:23 AM
"Well considering that the Seljuk turks took control of most of central asia, im sure they played in important influence in India; I know that some iranian armor (Sassanid Empire) greatly conquored northern indian regions, im sure cultural and military influence was taken during their rule."
Umm Darius was one who led a succesful campaign in Indus (I think he managed to be an overlord for about 25-30 years), but after that, when Bibisara, the Mauryans, the Guptas were in power, no one else came into India successfully (white huns managed to hold for some 15 years). Sassanid Empire was beyond Indus valley.
And these armouries originate in India, they're similar to what the Guptas used...
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 9 2005, 12:55 AM
"and a question to the Phillipino guy, are those armouries of Spanish origin? The helmets look very European.... "
I've read before that the helms were indeed influenced by the Spanish Conquistadors, perhaps even taken as war loot although the chain mails were very middle eastern in design, not surprising since they are muslims and probably gained through trade. But considering their skill working with metals, I do not doubt their capability to replicate them if not producing their own designs. I've posted before some of their weapons which are very exotic and beautiful.
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Force Without Justice Is Tyrannical.
This message has been edited by Runekeeper on Mar 9, 2005 12:56 AM
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 9 2005, 4:48 AM
Now this is central or norther Philippine armor? Nice designs..very very scaring looking swords..lol...
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."
-Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Emptiness and Fullness
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 14 2005, 1:20 AM
Nice Roman stuff....
I always loved Roman siege engines, my favourite one being the ballista. But then again Alexander's men mention of similar weapons used be Porus's army
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French armour and weapon, broad sword and mace (used as side arm by Normans, bretons, Franks and burgundian)
Men at arm pretty standard throughout europe
13th century knights
14th century knights
french full helm
Crossbow
Trebuchet
Bombard The introduction of this weapon made the Longbows almost obsolete, theyeby England losing the 100 year wars despite the longbows dominating the battelfield for a 100 year.
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Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 15 2005, 11:29 PM
this weapon kicked some French arse in Belgium
it's the famous batlle: "de gulden sporen slag"
translates in something like "the golden [insert the thing that a rider uses to kick his horse with his foot] battle"
the year after we lost miserably but hey, we won a battle
Re: Post Pictures of Your Countries' Weapons of the Good Old Days...
March 16 2005, 12:18 PM
Beautiful!
I remembered i watched this Korean movie couple of years back....Musa i think and really enjoyed it.
something i noticed is that a lot of the east asian armies of the past utilised chain armor mostly amongst other types (laminar, scale) but the weapons displayed thus far there seems to be a lack of a dedicated piercing weapon(s), most i see are slash kind which are not very effective against chain armor...at least it seems that piercing weapons were not very prevalent.
Just saying what i observed from this thread.
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Ming silk outfits
