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February 10 2006 at 9:51 PM

Anonymous  (Login bigtoothbrush)
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Anonymous
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Middle kingdom(China)

Re: armor

February 10 2006, 9:56 PM 




northern song dynasty(AD 960-1127)




    
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Dienekis
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Re: armor

February 11 2006, 1:08 AM 



Mycenean armor (their king Agamemnon led the Greek army to Troy). It is a unique find and consists of four parts: the collar, the shoulder pads, the breast-plate and an articulated section of three broad belts, for the protection of the warrior's body. It was found in a tomb at Dendra and dates from the 15th century B.C.





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Darada_Raja
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Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 11 2006, 5:07 PM 

Interesting,

So people wearing armour like that invaded our land long ago...

The Tang armies crossed the Pamirs several times under Kao-Sien-Chih,

As for the Greeks, everyone knows the name Alexander. He passsed just south of our area, but back then Dardic people also lived further south than they do today, before they were decimated/driven out by the Pashtuns.

In all fairness though the Hellenistic age was a long time after the days of Mycenae, so people wearing teh Mycenean armour never passed through our region.

Post some armour from Alexander's day...

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Re: armor

February 23 2006, 1:07 PM 

I like plate armours better.


 
 


(Login Darkness1089)
Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 23 2006, 11:35 PM 

Mauryan and Post Mauryan Soldiers:




Elephant armors:

Medieval period:


Ancient:




Southern (well basically same as Ancient armor styles):




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(Login schlawa)
Panzer Brigade(Germany)

Re: armor

February 25 2006, 12:42 PM 



The middle shows the Armor of the Polish Cavallery I think.
The Left seems to be Islamic, the right might be Austrian.



This shows the Personal Equipment of a German Teutonic Knight High-Master during the Siege of Vienna.

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(Login Darkness1089)
Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 25 2006, 7:16 PM 

Some more Indian armours:

Gupta Armies:




Ancient Indian Chainmail (Used mostly in South India):


Rajputana (using Turkic helmets):




Northern and Central Indian:




Indian/Persian:


North East Indian:


Tibetan Horses (Used in Northern and North East India):


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Darada_Raja
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Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 25 2006, 7:31 PM 

In my village we have some chainmail armor, our ancestors used to take it off the bodies of Badakhshani soldiers when they invaded.

No helemts though.

"Who are the rulers of the lands beyond Guraiz and Burzil? The Darada Rajas."
The Rajatarangini


 
 


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Re: armor

February 26 2006, 2:06 AM 

Chain mail is not a good armour, they are hard to make (imagine trying to connect 100000 little steel circles), they are expensive and they don't protect well. It can't stop an arrow, it has little effect against the thrust of swords and is only minutely effective against slashes.

However they are lighter than armour plates.



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(Login Darkness1089)
Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 26 2006, 11:03 PM 

Actually chaimail is quite a good armour, and contrary to common belief, it actually does protect against sword thrusts and arrows (broad tipped only. Armor piercing arrows even go through strong plate armors). Chainmail is really good in hot weather conditions as it doesn't heat up and lets air go through to the skin. Chainmail is also quite lightweight and much more easily repaired (A damaged plate armour has to be melted and recycled where as you can mend different parts of chainmail and make it last a lot longer).

You are right about it being hard to make though. It does take 1 armourer (working 9-5) upto 2 weeks to prepare chaimail while most plate armours can be done in one.

Indian elite soldiers also used plate armours:




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In my village we have some chainmail armor, our ancestors used to take it off the bodies of Badakhshani soldiers when they invaded.

No helemts though.


I'm actually quite surprised to hear that. I was expecting you'd start saying something like you guys have lots of ancient chainmail from the times of Ghazni or something...

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(Login COWlan)
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Re: armor

February 27 2006, 1:43 AM 

Chainmails only had protective effect against slashes, not thrusts, thrusts go right through (thrust, not a poke).

Crossbows which China invented takes down any armoured knight easily. No one used wood arrows, all armies were using metal tipped AP arrows, chainmails couldn't stop them at all.



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Anonymous
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Re: armor

February 27 2006, 4:00 AM 

French armour





Duke of Burgundy suit of armour



French crusaders





1600



1415



Cuirasier (best cavalry force during the Napoleonic inflicting up to 8 to 1 casualty in most engagement)



Cuirasier Helmet


Breastplate


Sword



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Darada_Raja
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Satyameva Jayate(India)

Re: armor

February 27 2006, 4:12 AM 

The Badakhshanis used to constantly invade our region. Often a local prince would invite them to help him aginst his rivals...

We benefitted from these "invasions" we'd take the armor off their bodies and sell those we captured into slavery and use their horses.

"Who are the rulers of the lands beyond Guraiz and Burzil? The Darada Rajas."
The Rajatarangini


 
 


(Login COWlan)
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Re: armor

February 27 2006, 2:36 PM 

The medieval european plate armour were extremely expensive, they were for knights and one suit often costs more than a mansion. Not many people could afford these armour. However Chinese cross-bows through trade entered Europe and peasants with no training what so ever on it could take down an experienced knight in a blink of an eye.



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wudi
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Re: armor

February 28 2006, 9:26 PM 

These photos are borrowed from Chinese history forum.
Somewhat of a chronological order:


Shang dynasty (1600-1100BC)





Zhou dynasty (1100-300BC)



Bronze infantry amor from Zhou



Warring States Period (400-220BC)





Qin dynasty (220BC)





Bronze lamellar armor from Qin




Qin cavalry and infantry



Han dynasty (210-220AD)




Han armor



Three Kingdoms Period (220-280AD)



Cavalry



North-South dynasty (400-600AD)



Armor of cataphracts from the North-South



Soldiers from North-South



Sui dynasty (600-620AD)



Mingguan amor for cavalry



Sui soldiers



Tang dynasty (600-900AD)



Heavy cavalry armor from Tang. Mask was adopted by the Japanese.



Various Tang armor



Imperial guard armor from Tang




Tang general



Five dynasties period (900-960AD)



Rendition from the 5 dynasties era



Song dynasty (960-1300AD)



Rendition



Heavy cavalry from Song



Song general



Yuan dynasty (1300-1360AD)





Ming dynasty (1360-1600AD)



Chainmail




General



Qing dynasty (1600-1920AD)





Brigandine armor from Qing



Chainmail armor from Qing


Republic era (1920-1940AD)



Republican soldier





Evolution of Chinese armor
From top to bottom left to right (Qin->Han->North-South->Sui->Tang)


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(Login phaethon)

Re: armor

February 28 2006, 11:30 PM 

For those interested on the ancient greek armours,including the armours of the ALEXANDERS THE GREAT army,this link will give valuable info.



http://www.hellenic-art.com/armour


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Anonymous
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Europa

Re: armor

March 2 2006, 12:54 PM 

that polish armour is actually quite interesting.. from the hussar cavalry (they wore wings which i can imagine
during a cavalry charge.. would look quite cool!)

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GoItaly
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Re: armor

March 10 2006, 4:52 AM 

Armor of the Roman Empire:






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