Celebration of music, art and culture at feet of Mt Blanc (ANSA) - Aosta, June 20 - Italy is preparing to toast its ancient Celtic heritage at the 2006 edition of a festival that has rapidly become one of Europe's most important events of its kind. The 10th edition of Celtica features a packed schedule of art, music, dance and other cultural events and pageants at towns throughout the Val d'Aosta region. The show has been split into two parts this year - a series of ritual ceremonies and concerts are being staged for the summer solstice, on June 21, while the main festival programme runs July 5-9 .
Performers and Celtic culture enthusiasts are coming from France, Spain, Ireland, Poland, Great Britain and all over Italy to take part. Among the big attractions are Breton band Bagad de Vannes, Irish sister fiddle-and-flute duo, Cora and Breda Smyth, the Irish Air Corps Pipe Band and Wales' Mabon ensemble. As usual, the festival's heart is at the beautiful, ancient Peuterey forest, 1,500 metres above sea level and near the Courmayeur ski resort .
Conferences by noted archaeologists, historians and scholars of Celtic culture will be plentiful .
Visitors will be able to find out about the development of Celtic languages, learn about the spirituality and natural-healing techniques of the ancient Celts and trace the historical origins of Celtic legends and stories .
There will be exhibitions of Celtic coins, metalwork, weapons, clothes, symbols and art .
Artists from all over Europe will hold workshops to teach people how to do Celtic embroidery, weave traditional baskets and make various craft objects .
Historical re-enactment groups will show visitors Celtic archery, axe throwing and flint fire-making among other things .
There will be Irish and Scottish dancing lessons too and children can get tuition on swordplay .
Those feeling less energetic can sit down and enjoy the tales of a number of storytelling societies .
Since its debut in 1997, when 2,500 people came along, the festival has seen attendances grow exponentially .
Over 35,000 visitors came last year .
The event's popularity shows northern Italians are increasingly interested in learning about their Celtic roots .
Many guests to the fair are at pains to tell observers that the Celts had settled in the north of Italy long before the Romans muscled in .
What's more, a growing number of historical societies dedicated to the Celtic way of life are sprouting up in Italy's northern provinces .
Some have put this down to a desire to assert a distinctive regional identity, which is linked to the development of the devolutionist Northern League party .
However, organizers say the festival is devoid of political undertones .
The festival events programme is available online at www.celticavda.it .
One of the many examples of funny and innocent initiatives that are now brought up to political levels in the name of so-called "identities", choosing some parts of local histories and often denying others. All those things are encouraged both by local powers and Brussels: cheer up! Europe is now beginning its new feudalization on economical, cultural and political levels.
Par St Michel vivent les Paras,
Pour que toujours vive la France...
Et pour qu'au nom de Dieu vive la Coloniale!
"Le fantassin se doit de calquer en tout son attitude sur le morpion, cet animal sublime qui meurt mais ne décroche jamais" (Maréchal Joffre)
The Celts were very widespread indeed. Most of Wesrten Europe was originally Celtic and genetically many still are, but linguistically and culturally the Celts have been largely repalced by the Latins and Germanics.
Their was even a Celtic group as far east as Anatolia.
Today the only places which still Celtic are some parts of France and Ireland, Wales and Scotland.
In Scotland their are many people of Germanic ancestry too as many Angles and Vkings settled in the Scotish lowlands. The Scots language was previously considered a form of English but today considered a separate language, it has very little Celtic in it. Scots is the language of the lowlands the language of the Highlands is Scotish Gaelic, which is very much Celtic.
Sadly only 60,000 people still speak Scotish Gaelic, but with Scottish Nationalism rising after the reopeneing of the Scots Parliament many are taking an interst in learning Gaelic.
"Who are the rulers of the lands beyond Guraiz and Burzil? The Darada Rajas."
The Rajatarangini
<<Awesome! Go Gallic brotherhood. Northern Italy was part of Gaul after all>>
Without the cost!!! Just like in transalpian Gaul!!!
For the interior, you are right, but one correction, we do not talk for the northern Italia, but for Cisalpian Gaul!!!
Today Cisalpian Gaul is part of the Italian republic, but she is not a geographical and historical part of Italia, and how you can see, also and genetical!!!
Quote:Today Cisalpian Gaul is part of the Italian republic, but she is not a geographical and historical part of Italia, and how you can see, also and genetical!!!
What about you have a closer look at a map. Gallia Cisalpina was geographical part of the Italian peninsula. Italy is modern creation like Germany and is not as ancient as France. Not to confuse Rome with Italy. Rome had to conquer the entire Italian peninsula. And Gaul wasn't a country but federation of loosely related tribes. Yes you can say northern Italy was Gallic and the Northern Italian League is also pro-Gallic.
All Gallic tribes
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This message has been edited by Eric_De_La_Legion on Jun 23, 2006 3:41 AM
<<What about you have a closer look at a map. Gallia Cisalpina was geographical part of the Italian peninsula.>>
I expected to have some debate with you about history but please!!! About geography??? I told that the geography science is clear to all!!!
Ok I can understand, no problem with that.
What you will say about this geographical map:
<<Italy is modern creation like Germany>>
Correct!!!
<<and is not as ancient as France.>>
I think that you can tell me more about 'ancient France', because this is something new for me!!!
<<Not to confuse Rome with Italy. Rome had to conquer the entire Italian peninsula.>>
Correct, but what is your stand???
<<And Gaul wasn't a country but federation of loosely related tribes.>>
Correct!!!
<<Yes you can say northern Italy was Gallic and >>
If you mean the northern part of today italian rebublic, which is not in the italian peninsula, this is also and my stand!!!
<<the Northern Italian League is also pro-Gallic.>>
Correct!!!
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This message has been edited by kapamonimos on Jun 23, 2006 6:08 PM
Abstract:
The cromlech of Monsorino: an example of geometry and astronomy in the culture of Golasecca
by Adriano Gaspani
The word cromlech comes from the welsh language and it means exactly "curved stone". The cromlech is an enclosure of many stones set in a circle enclosing one or more tombs. It is also called "ring tomb" and is well known in all europe and in the Ticino area where after the first mellennium B.C. the Golasecca culture set up.
The cromlechs situated on the top of the hills like at Monsorino and on the plains like at Vigevano and Vergiate, have different sizes from 3 to 10 diameter meters. The circle of Vigano, unfortunately disappeared, was the biggest one with a diameter of 17 meters and a corridor of about 30 meters. In the Ticino area, at Carrera in Sesto Calende, the use of these funeral enclosures started in the VIII c. and went on in the VII and VI c. as well.
The strange thing is that at Monsorino they used the Pitagora triangle in the VII and VIII c. B.C. a period of 3-4oo years before its coming.
Abrégé:
Les cromlechs du monsorino: un exemple de geometrie et d'astronomie dans la culture de golasecca
de Adriano Gaspani
La parole cromlech est originaire du Galles et à la lettre se traduit par "pierre voûtée". Le terme indique une enceinte de plusieurs pierres disposées en rond, un cercle qui renferme un ou plusieurs tombeaux. Ces derniers, appelés aussi " tombeaux circulaires " sont très diffusés dans toute l'Europe et aussi dans le réseau du Ticino, endroit où au cours du premier millénaire a.J.C. s'est développée la Culture de Golasecca.
Les cromlechs construits soit au sommet des collines, comme dans le cas de Monsorino, soit en plaine comme à Vigevano et à Vergiate, ont une grandeur variable de 3 à 10 mètres de diamètre. Le cercle de Vigevano, complètement disparu, était le plus grand avec un diamètre de 17 mètres et un couloir de 30 mètres environ. Dans le réseau du Ticino et à Sesto Calende, localité Carrera, on a commencé à ériger ces enceintes funéraires au cours du VIII siècle et on a continué pendant les siècles VII et VI.
La chose tout à fait étonnante est que dans le cas de Monsorino on a utilisé le triangle de Pitagora déjà au cours du VII et VIII siècles, au moins 3-400 ans avant sa invention officielle.
Il termine cromlech è di origine gallese e letteralmente si traduce in "pietra curva". Il termine indica un recinto di pietre fitte disposte in circolo che racchiude una o più sepolture.
I cromlech, definiti anche "tombe a circolo", sono diffusi in tutta Europa, e sono presenti anche nel comprensorio del Ticino dove durante il primo millennio a.C. si sviluppò la Cultura di Golasecca.
L'archeologo P. Castelfranco, alla fine del secolo scorso, ne riconobbe 43 lungo la riva lombarda del fiume e 4 su quella piemontese. Tra questi, tre dei più caratteristici fanno parte del sito del Monsorino.
Oltre che al Monsorino alcuni cromlech sono stati scoperti in località Garzonera a Vergiate, nella brughiera del Vigano a Somma Lombardo e, relativi alla fase II-III di Golasecca, vale a dire dal VI al IV secolo a.C, nel Canton Ticino a Minusio presso Locarno.
I cromlech, collocati sia sulla cima delle colline come nel caso del Monsorino sia in pianura come a Vigano e a Vergiate, hanno dimensioni variabili grosso modo tra i 3 e i 10 metri di diametro. Il circolo del Vigano, oggi scomparso, era quello di maggiori dimensioni con il suo diametro di ben 17 metri e con un corridoio di circa 30 metri. L'uso di questi recinti funebri inizia, nel comprensorio del Ticino, con l'ottavo secolo a.C., come a Sesto Calende in località Carrera, e prosegue per tutto il VII e il VI secolo a.C.
L'area del Monsorino è collocata nei boschi posti sulle colline prospicienti il fiume Ticino essa fu individuata per la prima volta nel secolo scorso dall'abate G.B. Giani (1788-1857), eminente studioso nativo di Golasecca.
Nel 1965 furono intraprese, dalla "Società Gallaratese di Studi Patrii", opere di scavo e ripristino dei cromlech. I cromlech tuttora visibili al Monsorino sono attribuiti alla fase I di Golasecca cronologicamente collocata tra la seconda metà dell'VIII e tutto il VII secolo a.C.
Nell'area del Monsorino sono visibili tre cromlech, qui identificati con A, B e C e due corridoi rettangolari, detti allées, uno solo dei quali è connesso al rispettivo circolo di pietre. La funzione del secondo corridoio, quello privo del circolo non è chiara. Al loro interno e al loro esterno sono state individuate tombe a cremazione i cui corredi però, a causa del tempo trascorso dal ritrovamento, non sono più rintracciabili con sicurezza. (...)
This message has been edited by diquinonsipassa on Jun 23, 2006 8:09 PM
The astronomy in the culture of Golasecca
Conference of the 3rd Festival Celtique in Aosta
by Adriano Gaspani
To reconstruct the history and the culture of the people living in the region of Lombardia just before the roman capture and the Gauls invasion in the 338 B.C., we have to consider all the archaeoligical remains and the historical events.
Actually the archaeologists can't tell which were the populations living in the plane and in the lakes area in the north of Italy.
The researches reveal the existence of a common culture of the people living in the area of the river Oglio, which is known as "Golasecca Culture", name that may have originated from the most famous place near Varese, where the first remains of that culture have been found. Looking at a comparison between the tombs and the nemetons and the stars maps dating back to the first millemnium B.C., we see that there were standing stones erected in correspondance to the constellations, well known in those distant ages.
L'astronomie dans la culture de golasecca
Conférence tenue au cours du Festival Celtique de Aosta
de Adriano Gaspani
Pour reconstruire l'histoire et la culture des populations qui habitaient le territoire de la Lombardie avant la conquete romaine et l'invasion des Gauls en 388 avant J.C., il faut prendre note des informations résultat d'une analyse des restes d'archéologie et des sources historiques.
A présent les archéologues ne peuvent pas établir quelles étaient les peuplades qui habitaient la région des lacs et la plaine du nord de l'Italie. A la suite des recherches archéologiques on a pu quand (établir l'existence d'une culture commune des habitants de la région qui s'étendait jusqu'au fleuve Oglio et qui prit le nom de "Culture de Golasecca", nom d'une des principales localités tout prËs de Varese, où ont été retrouvés des restes. D'une étude sur la position des tombes et des nemetons et des mappes des étoiles de l'an 1000 avant J.C., on peut dire que l'alignement des pierres correspond exactement aux principales constellations, déjà connues dans l'antiquité.
(Conferenza tenuta ad Aosta nel corso del terzo Festival Celtique: Prima Parte)
Lepontic language
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Lepontic
Spoken in: Cisalpine Gaul
Language extinction: ca. 400 BC
Language family: Indo-European
Celtic
Continental Celtic
Lepontic
Language codes
ISO 639-1: none
ISO 639-2: to be added
ISO/DIS 639-3: —
Lepontic is an extinct Celtic language, the language of the Lepontii, that was spoken in parts of Cisalpine Gaul between 700 BC and 400 BC. Sometimes called Cisalpine Celtic, it is considered a dialect of the Gaulish language and thus a Continental Celtic language (Eska 1998).
The language is only known from a few inscriptions discovered that were written in the alphabet of Lugano, one of five main varieties of Northern Italic alphabets, derived from the Etruscan alphabet. These inscriptions were found in an area centered around Lugano, including Lago di Como and Lago Maggiore. Similar scripts were used for writing the Rhaetic and Venetic languages, and the Germanic runic alphabets probably derive from a script belonging to this group.
Lepontic was assimilated first by Gaulish, with the settlement of Gaulish tribes north of the River Po, and then by Latin, after the Roman Republic gained control over Gallia Cisalpina during the late second and first century BC.
The grouping of all of these inscriptions into a single Celtic language has been disputed, and some (including specifically all of the older ones) are said to be in a non-Celtic language related to Ligurian (Whatmough 1933, Pisani 1964). Under this view, which was the prevailing view until about 1970, Lepontic is the correct name for the non-Celtic language, while the Celtic language is to be called Cisalpine Gaulish. Following Lejeune (1971), the consensus view became that Lepontic should be classified as a Celtic language, albeit possibly as divergent as Celtiberian, and in any case quite distinct from Cisalpine Gaulish. Only in recent years, there has been a tendency to identify Lepontic and Cisalpine Gaulish as one and the same language.
While the language is named after the tribe of the Lepontii, which occupied portions of Rhaetia (in modern Switzerland and Italy), in the Alps, bordering Cisalpine Gaul, the term is currently used by many Celticists to apply to all Celtic dialects of ancient Italy. This usage is disputed by those who continue to view the Lepontii as one of several indigenous pre-Roman tribes of the Alps, quite distinct from the Gauls who invaded the plains of Northern Italy in historical times.
This message has been edited by diquinonsipassa on Jun 23, 2006 9:36 PM
I Celti in Italia settentrionale nella Prima Età del Ferro
Carta dei ritrovamenti della Cultura di Golasecca IX - V sec. a.C. tratteggiati i comprensori protourbani di Sesto Calende - Golasecca - Castelletto Ticino e di Como. (da I Celti, Bompiani)
I Celti in Italia settentrionale nella Seconda Età del Ferro
I Celti della Seconda Età del Ferro
I Celti furono un popolo indoeuropeo, chiamati dai Greci Keltòi, Galàtai e Galli dai Romani, erano stanziati in tutta l’Europa settentrionale e centrale.
I primi riferimenti relativi a questo popolo nell’Italia settentrionale, risalgono alla prima Età del Ferro,
certamente al IX secolo a.C. con la cultura di Golasecca,
la cultura Paleoveneta di Este VIII-VI sec.a.C.,
quella Villanoviana nel bolognese della Prima Età del Ferro,
e probabilmente ancor prima (Età del Bronzo Finale) con la cultura Protogolasecchiana XII-X sec. a.C.,
la cultura di Canegrate, risalente addirittura al XIII sec. a.C., coeva con la cultura dei Campi di Urne nord europea, o la Civiltà Camuna, nella fase Età del Bronzo Finale.
Oltralpe, sicuramente i più importanti furono nell’alta Austria, i Celti Hallstattiani, dall’omonima località (Halstatt), VIII-VI sec. a.C.
This message has been edited by diquinonsipassa on Jun 23, 2006 8:56 PM
Nice presentation Mario. I like Celtic metallurgy and jewellery.
France and Northern Italy have been historically very close. First with the Gauls into Northern Italy, then with the romans into Gaul and later after the collapsed of Romes, the Romano-Gallo-Franks (Merovingians and Carolingians) into Italy.
I find it absurb that people only associate France with the Gauls only and Italy with the romans when both nations were historically peopled by a mosaic of different interacting peoples.
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This message has been edited by Eric_De_La_Legion on Jun 24, 2006 5:13 AM
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what a joke
The Latins come from the Latini Daci Tribes of Romania, They entered the Italian Peninsuala and were racialy simmilar to celts and vlachs.
The latins were racially different from the celts. The Connacht haplotype which is representative of the "celtic" people does not occur as frequently in Romania or southern Italy as it does in most of Northern Italy and Western Europe in General.
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This message has been edited by Eric_De_La_Legion on Jun 27, 2006 6:55 AM
I am refering to Celtic being the aboriginal peoples of europe or otherwise known as the black sea pottery people.
The Celts were the first migrants out of the steppes of europe and anatolia to set foot in europe (not discounting the Basque,Illyrian and Gauche unknowns), After them came the Nords and From them (The celts) came the Poles (northern slav) Etruscan Hellenes and Latini Daci.
After the Nordic Invasion southward out of Sweden they pushed the Gemanic Celts into The rhineland,barvaria,austria and france.
Those who were east of this became the Poles,Bohemian and Moravians.
further east Nords settled and mixed with what is refered to as Slavs and gave birth to the southern slavs.
That being the Russian,ByeloRussian,Ukrianian,Carpathian and Serb,and Bulgar (from volvograd)
Further North Ungartic and Lappo-mongols went to the remoteparts of scandinavia.
CELT = Caucasian European prototype Not Eugenicist/Anthropologist head measurement.
I'm referring to the Celt as the people who originally spoke a Celtic language or derivative which differed considerably to the languages spoken by the Slavs.
The celts were not aboriginal to Europe, there were a mosaic of races prior to the celt migration; the celtic ultimate origin is a mystery but it is agreed the pre-la Tene celtic culture originated somewhere around the Danube.
By the way the Nordics are more related to the Slavs than the Celts are related to the slavs. Migration movement must have been from eastern Europe into Scandinavia then from Scandinavia into germany.
The gotlander "Nordic" haplotype (group of genes that are inherited in block) occurs in one third of germans (mostly northern and Eastern germans) as well in northern-east slavs countries. it occurs minimally in western Germany, Bavaria, France, Northern Italy and western europe in general. The connacht haplotye remains dominant haplotype in western Europe occuring at 100% among the connacht people, around 70 to 80% among the Irish and scots and around 45% to 60% in France, England and Northern italy..
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I Celti in Italia settentrionale nella Prima Età del Ferro
