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Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 18 2008 at 8:35 PM

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Marian T. HORVAT
Understanding the Crusades
tratto da: Catholic Family News, November 2001.

A threat to fellow Christians

Since the third century, a favorite site of pilgrimage for Christians was the Holy Land. When Islam burst out of Arabia and took control of the Middle East in the seventh century, pilgrimages to the Holy Land became more difficult, but never ceased.

But the great age of pilgrimage began with the 10th century. In Palestine, the most beloved site of pilgrimage, the lot of the Christians was no longer so bad, and men and women of every class and age, sometimes travelling in parties numbering thousands, journeyed by sea or the land route to visit "the Sepulchre of the Lord which is in Jerusalem". The Fatimid Arabs who were governing Palestine were lenient, trade was prospering, and pilgrims were welcomed for the wealth they brought to the province.

This period of relative peace came to an abrupt halt at the end of the 10th century. The Arabs were displaced as governors of the holy places by the Seljuk Turks, who reinvigorated the dwindling military spirit of Islam, and again made the call for jihad, or holy war. Their aim was the same as it has been since the inception of Islam, which does not mean "peace", despite the strange and insistent claims of this seen in the newspapers today.

In fact, the word Islam means submission, and not just a passive submission to the book of Islam, the Koran. Submission for the followers of Mohammed means to carry out the will of Allah in history. The Muslim doctrine of the jihad, or holy war, stemmed from the ideas of the prophet himself—that is, that it was Allah's will for a permanent war to reign until the rule of Islam extended over all the world. Hence Islam's political domination could be, and was, spread by the sword. This is why Hillaire Belloc predicted almost a century ago that the West could again see a threat from Islam:


"It very nearly destroyed us. It kept up the battle against Christendom actively for a thousand years, and the story is by no means over; the power of Islam may at any moment re-arise" (1).


But, back to the history. By the second half of the 11th century, the Turks had brandished the sword and were creating considerable hardships for Western pilgrims in the East. Travel was no longer safe for Christian pilgrims without an armed escort, and even then, Christians who managed to return to the West had dreadful tales of persecution to tell.


When the call for a Crusade was finally made by Blessed Pope Urban II at Clermont in 1095, he stressed the outrages suffered by fellow Christians at the hands of the militant Muslims:


"They [the Muslim Turks] have invaded the lands of those Christians and have depopulated them by the sword, pillage and fire; they have led away a part of the captives into their own country, and a part they have destroyed by cruel tortures .... They circumcise the Christians, and the blood of the circumcision they either spread upon the altars or pour into the vases of the baptismal font. When they wish to torture people by a base death, they perforate their navels, and dragging forth the extremity of the intestines, bind it to a stake; then with flogging they lead the victim around until the viscera having gushed forth the victim falls prostrate upon the ground. Others they bind to a post and pierce with arrows. Others they compel to extend their necks and then, attacking them with naked swords, attempt to cut through the neck with a single blow. What shall I say of the abominable rape of the women? To speak of it is worse than to be silent .... On whom therefore is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you?" (2)


Such descriptions raised the indignation of the multitudes and inspired an inevitable response. The general view was that the Crusade was justified as a defensive reaction to injuries sustained by the faithful in consequence of past or present aggressions. The Crusaders were protecting the right and possibility of pilgrims to go to the Holy Land.

The positive religious factor: Feelings about Jerusalem

A principal goal of the Crusade in the minds of the people was the liberation of Jerusalem. Jerusalem was more than a symbolic military or economic institution, like the Pentagon or the World Trade Center. Jerusalem was a living relic of Christendom, the site on earth where God chose to intervene in History to become incarnate and to redeem man. "Those places where the Lord's feet have trod", wrote James of Vitry, "are held by the faithful to be holy and consecrated and as precious relics" (3). Here, near Nablus was the well where He had rested and received the pitcher of water from the Samaritan woman. There, at the River Jordan, Christ had been baptized. At Bethlehem was the sacred site of His Birth. Now these sites were being desecrated and reviled, the churches and sacred vessels pillaged and plundered. For medieval man, to defend Jerusalem from such acts of profanation was the natural consequence of his great love of God.

Pope Urban II called for a Crusade at Clermont in 1095 and gave a plenary indulgence to the fighters

When Pope Urban II preached the Crusade at Clermont, he described the desecration by the Muslims of the Holy Land, and especially the Holy Sepulchre:


"Let the Holy Sepulchre of the Lord our Savior, which is possessed by unclean nations, especially incite you, and the holy places which are now treated with ignominy and irreverently polluted with their filthiness" (4).



This caused great outrage, in part because the average Western European was better acquainted with the Bible lands, as they called them, than any place other than their own villages and towns. The Holy Land was the Christians' "other home". When the great cry "Deus vult" (God wills it!) broke forth, it was the zealous response of fervent Christians who felt their religious symbols and heritage violated.

This call for a war to defend the religious patrimony of all Christendom quickly reverberated throughout the West, and initiated a great alliance of kingdoms who came together to fight a common threat to the West.

A threat to very existence of Western Civilization

What was this actual threat to the West?

By the end of the 11th century, the Muslim Turks had turned their attention to Asia Minor. The conquering Muslim hordes swept through the Christian East, and finally turned toward Constantinople. The new Emperor, Alexius Comnenus, realized his weakened state and appealed to Western Christendom for help to protect his crumbling empire.

The Christian West, which had launched the Reconquista of the Iberian kingdoms in the 8th century, were already combating the Almohades Muslims, ferocious and fanatical Arab invaders from Morocco, on their own soil. The threat of the fall of the Eastern Christian capital, Constantinople, to the Turks would leave the West vulnerable to an attack from a united and strong Arab front in the East. Convinced that the menace of Islam threatened the existence of Western civilization and that he alone had the power to organize a large expeditionary force to defend Christianity from the Muslim advance, Pope Urban II made a call to the nobility of Western Europe.

The response to Pope Urban II's plea was overwhelming. Large numbers answered the call with great enthusiasm and streamed eastward in several waves. Beyond all reasonable expectations, the Crusaders retook Jerusalem on July 15, 1099 (5), establishing several Crusader states that would last for almost two centuries.

Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal


The Crusades left a positive mark on the Western imagination. The very expression, crusade, became and has remained synonymous with heroic endeavors in the service of a great ideal. As recently as last month, President George Bush adapted the term to the present situation and called for a "crusade" against international terrorism.

For medieval man, the Crusade was an act of piety and love of God and neighbor. But it was also a means of defending their world, their culture, their religion, and their way of life. Then, as today, men fight for what is most dear to them. Then, as today, it is the right thing to do.

How, then, does one explain the anti-crusade movement in our country? A point of reference would be the pacifist minorities who zealously promote it here and there, often on university campuses. They represent the most deleterious segments of public opinion - communists, hippies, homosexuals, ecologists, feminists, liberal religious, etc., and their voices are echoed loudly in the media. Their obvious goal is to discredit the Catholic Church and her past heroes. It would be difficult to understand how the anti-crusade movement has managed to impose its unhistorical and distorted theses so profoundly on the Western mentality, except for the fact that it was accomplished with the full support of the progressivist current in the Church. But this is yet another topic, better left for discussion in a separate article.

1. Hillaire Belloc, The Great Heresies, Chapter Four

2. Dana C. Munro, "Urban and the Crusaders", Translations and Reprints from the Original Sources of European History, Vol. 1:2, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1895), 5-8

3. James of Vitry, Historia, I, p. 1081 in J.S.C. Riley-Smith, "Peace Never Established: The Case of the Kingdom of Jerusalem", Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, Sept. 15, 1977, p. 89.

4. Munro, "Urban and the Crusaders", pp. 5-8

5. The Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusades, ed. Jonathan Riley-Smith, (Oxford/NY: Oxford Un. Press, 1995, p. 141


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Jason
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Re: Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 18 2008, 9:06 PM 


Uh oh, Wait for it

Please keep it civil lads.


 
 


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Re: Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 19 2008, 9:02 PM 

I guess this sort of threat is too much serious and complicate for the average interest of the forum members


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Re: Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 22 2008, 6:37 AM 

a few historical inaccuracies

"one the holy land" was under the occupation of the mad fatamid caliph hakim Not the turks.


two the first victims of the crusade were not the Muslim "infidel" your term not ours, but your fellow christians of the east.

three islam did not burst out of Arabia engulfing the mideast for were not lands like Syria,Palestine,Iraq not allready arab???






 
 

Mario
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Re: Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 22 2008, 5:50 PM 

"three islam did not burst out of Arabia engulfing the mideast for were not lands like Syria,Palestine,Iraq not allready arab???"


you really mean that lands were inhabited by semitic people, not really arabs


differently you should admit israelis are simply another arab tribe and they are in their own right in establishing their national state in ME






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Re: Understanding the Crusades: Heroic undertaking in the service of a great ideal

February 23 2008, 11:54 AM 

two the first victims of the crusade were not the Muslim "infidel" your term not ours, but your fellow christians of the east.

TEXT


Thank you Comrade...but they will never admit they backstabed the Orthodox Christians!


 
 

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February 23 2008, 1:21 PM 

three islam did not burst out of Arabia engulfing the mideast for were not lands like Syria,Palestine,Iraq not allready arab???

It doesn't say Arabs burst out it says Islam burst out, which is true, the Arabs of the regions you mentioned were not Muslim till after Islam came out of Arabia.

Also Syria was still mostly Assyrian Christians during the crusades.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


 
 

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February 23 2008, 2:03 PM 

@E4L

how is I feel both of you got your informations from a christian source ?


of course the average guy is not as learned as we forum members on the matter but you can't foul anyone here on this



 
 


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February 26 2008, 3:44 AM 

I have always wondered why people never mention that the Latin Crusaders did more damage to Byzantium and Constantinople than the Turks ever did. Had those Crusaders not ransacked the city the empire may have lasted a bit longer.




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February 26 2008, 10:20 AM 

I have always wondered why people never mention that the Latin Crusaders did more damage to Byzantium and Constantinople than the Turks ever did. Had those Crusaders not ransacked the city the empire may have lasted a bit longer.
This is very true first the franks, and then the vennicians also add there christian bit to the Fall of Constantitnople by 1453.The crusades where never going to succede, the knights with their heavy amour and the every limited ability to move quickly where doomed from the start.the Muslin fighter where more agile and more expendable to their over lords than the knights where to theirs.
The Last Crusade (if you call it a crusade) to alexanderia in 1365 by the Knight hospitller (knight fo st john) was more of a raid, plunder and run then to try and reclaim lost terrority.The Behaviour of this Crusade was to Put the final nail in the coffin of Muslin Respect for all christian.


 
 


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February 26 2008, 9:01 PM 

the last official Crusade happened in 1269-1272



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February 27 2008, 10:01 AM 

This maybe very true in some respects, but it does not take from the fact that 168 ships (108 from Cyprus) and by far the largest combined force since the 3 crusade, the city of Alexandria fell 2 days after they had landed, but what befell the city in terms of massacre can only be paralleled with the Massacre of Jerusalem in 1099 or the Frank’s in Constantinople on 1204.the mamelukes in Cairo where marching toward Alexandria to engage this new Christian invasion (Crusader’s), when New’s of the mameluke intension became clear to the invader they returned home to Cyprus with all they loot. this maybe just what they called a raid on muslin held lands

 
 

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February 27 2008, 3:51 PM 

I have always wondered why people never mention that the Latin Crusaders did more damage to Byzantium and Constantinople than the Turks ever did. Had those Crusaders not ransacked the city the empire may have lasted a bit longer.

Even if the Crusades did not pass through, the Byzantine Empire was a dead power. It was basically being eroded from the inside out, the power struggles the meddling and traitors where far more damaging.

Though it is true the Crusades stopped any chance of the Byzantine Empire from reforming and maybe even retaking its former glory, it is unlikely. The Crusades were called by the Byzantines and the Crusade which basically destroyed the Byzantine Empire was the 4th, nearly 120 years after the first.

I personally believe they wouldn't have fallen in 1453 like they had, but they were never likely to retake their power base in Anatolia where the Turks were entrenched. The most likely scenario is that the Ottomans would not have been formed and much of the Balkans would have remained in centralised Kingdoms or Principalities, small regional powers which would have been taken over by Hungary which in turn would have been taken by Austria. The entire balance of power in Europe would have swung in Central Europe.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


 
 

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February 27 2008, 10:29 PM 

@dustybottle

Alexandria was just part of the permanent "jihad" and "crusade" christians and muslims fought for a millennium and half in the Mediterranean - frequently by proxies as the barberian pirates and the Knightly Orders

I would remember you the muslim main attacks (invasions) on Rhodos, Famagusta, Crete, Malta, Otranto ...... and raids everywhere (without mentioning the jihad through the Balkans and the two sieges of Vienna/Wien)


About the "crusade" conquest of Constantinople it is usually mentioned by historians and negatively


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February 28 2008, 8:11 PM 

I once read a book about a children's crusade.


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February 28 2008, 10:25 PM 


If the Childrens crusade actually happened (and it's not certain if it did) it may be that it has been confused through translation errors and in fact didn't involve large numbers of children at all.

However if it did happen then according to all who have written on it the crusade was a complete disaster. Most of the children never made it to the holy land at all with the vast majority being sold in to slavery after being captured on there way through Turkey apparently.

However true or not the legend of the childrens crusade has seemed to have lasted the test of time. In fact the tale of the pide piper (a German folk tale about a piper that takes all the children from the town of Hamlin because of his pipe playing who then all disappear never to be seen again) is supposed to be based on the childrens crusade.




 
 
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February 29 2008, 11:01 AM 

The pied piper story that is very interesting, maybe behind most folk stories there is some Truth

Pope eugenius having come to the accommodation with the Byzantium emperor john (8) in florance1439 the decree know as Laetentur coeli (let the heavens rejoice ) believe he had a duty to Emperor John and the Byzantium emperor. He called for another crusade to defend Byzantium from the enemy that have surround what was left of the Christian kingdom. The Call was taken up 1443 by Hungarian King Ladisles, Serbian George Brankovich and john hunyadi of Transylvania with 25,00 troop they , and from there the city of Nish and Sofia where freed from the Ottoman Sultan Murad 2 A 10 treaty was signed with the Sultan , but Rome was unhappy with the treaty and broke the treaty .This was the rock that they all perished on for Murad 2 completely defeated this crusade army in Varna in November 1444.

 
 
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