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Did the Vikings make a telescope?

November 15 2008 at 5:59 PM

White Dragon  (Login ingenting)
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""The Vikings could have been using a telescope hundreds of years before Dutch spectacle makers supposedly invented the device in the late 16th century.

This remarkable possibility has emerged from a study of sophisticated lenses just recognised from a Viking site on the island of Gotland in the Baltic Sea. They were initially thought to be merely ornaments.




"Visby" lenses were initially thought to be ornaments

"It seems that the elliptical lens design was invented much earlier that we thought and then the knowledge was lost," says Dr Olaf Schmidt, of Aalen University in Germany.

The late Dr Karl-Heinz Wilms first heard of the so-called "Visby" lens in 1990 when he was searching for exhibits for a Munich museum. It was named after the major town on Gotland. Dr Wilms found a picture of the lens in a book and planned to examine the original.

But it was not until 1997 that a team of three scientists went to Gotland to take a close look at what were actually 10 lenses locked away in the storeroom of a local museum.

Perfect shape

One of the team, Dr Olaf Schmidt, told BBC News Online: "I was excited, of course. The polish of some of the lenses was almost perfect. The second thing that caught our eye was that their imaging was very good."




This lens was an almost perfect ellipsoid

When the lenses were put through their paces, the team was amazed. The lenses passed a series of tests almost as well as modern optics.

Made from rock-crystal, the lenses have an accurate shape that betrays the work of a master craftsman. The best example of the lenses measures 50 mm (2 inches) in diameter and 30 mm (1 inch) thick at its centre.

"The surface of some of the lenses have an almost perfect elliptical shape," Dr Schmidt said. "They were obviously made on a turning lathe."

The lenses have a flattened central area that makes them excellent magnifiers.

"They could have been used as magnifiers, allowing fine carving to be carried out, or they could have been used to start fires or to burn wounds and cuts so that they did not get infected."

What intrigues the researchers is that the lenses are of such high quality that they could have been used to make a telescope some 500 years before the first known crude telescopes were constructed in Europe in the last few years of the 16th century.

Lost knowledge

The Gotland crystals provide the first evidence that sophisticated lens-making techniques were being used by craftsmen over a 1,000 years ago.

At that time, scientists had only just started to explore the laws of light refraction.

According to the researchers, it is clear that the craftsmen who figured the lenses knew more about applied optics than did the scientists of the time. They must have worked by trial and error because the mathematics to calculate the best shape for a lens did not become available for several hundred years.

The researchers speculate that the knowledge to make such an accurate lens was known to only a few craftsmen, perhaps only one person.

But it seems clear that the Vikings did not make the lenses themselves. "There are hints that the lenses may have been manufactured in [the ancient empire of] Byzantium or in the region of Eastern Europe," Dr Schmidt said.

Some of the lenses can be seen at Gotland's Fornsal, the historical museum in Visby. Some are in the Swedish National Museum in Stockholm. Others have been lost. ""

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/702478.stm

 
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Vin
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

November 17 2008, 2:24 PM 

Sssh! Don't you dare to take away what's ours wink.gif

 
 

Eric
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

November 18 2008, 4:28 PM 

I doubt the Vikings created this themselves. Vikings were technologically not very advanced compared to other cultures. They may have stolen these artefacts from other cultures.

Just when I type this I finish the article and I'm apparently correct:
"But it seems clear that the Vikings did not make the lenses themselves. "There are hints that the lenses may have been manufactured in [the ancient empire of] Byzantium or in the region of Eastern Europe," Dr Schmidt said. "

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Hawkssss
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

November 19 2008, 2:44 PM 

vikings=savages=/=smart people

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White Dragon
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

November 30 2008, 11:30 PM 

""Lost knowledge "" so we just speculate yet , but Byzantine , Iran or Chinese, is my tip , but Maya as a possible maker of these lenses too.

 
 

Wankers R US
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

December 2 2008, 7:04 AM 

my guess is that they wallop the spectackled fella who came from byzantine who was at the wrong place at the wrong time and his glasses are the only one to survive the passage of time....

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White Dragon
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

December 2 2008, 9:21 AM 

""my guess is that they wallop the spectackled fella who came from byzantine who was at the wrong place at the wrong time and his glasses are the only one to survive the passage of time....""

That would be a bad guess , Vikings had a lot of stuff in those days.

 
 


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if it is true

December 30 2008, 11:29 PM 

then persians landed on moon

 
 

Kappa
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

December 30 2008, 11:52 PM 

Vikings ,out of all barbarians these guys were the dumbest of all running around with those horns in there hair that painted themselves blue!!!








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White Dragon
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

December 31 2008, 2:11 PM 

""painted themselves blue!!!""

You mean Proto Greece and Picti ? they painted them selfes blue , not Vikings and no horns on their helmets. LoL


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soft bootie
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

June 1 2009, 9:29 PM 

Vikings where actuallly rather advanced in their technology in many areas chiefly shipbuilding and navigation where it took centuries for Europe to catch up.

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Danmas
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

June 4 2009, 3:54 AM 

They should also be credited with getting the early medieval european money economy going by "liberating" all that gold and silver from the church and putting it back into circulation.

 
 

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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

June 29 2009, 5:18 PM 

Possibly the Vikings got it from Byzantium. Many of them served in the Veringian guard as body gaurds to the emperor. They were master seamen and boat builders.

 
 
Eric California
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Re: Did the Vikings make a telescope?

June 29 2009, 6:15 PM 


The vikings where quit primitive morally but advanced in shipbuilding


though it should be noted that already during the "viking age" many vikings had become christian like for example Leif Eriksson who reached present Canada from Greenland and Iceland





 
 
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