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Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 11 2008 at 11:03 PM
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http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,595919,00.html

Summary:

In a forest in Niedersachsen ( Northern West Germany) the remains of at least 600 Weapons dating back to ancient times have been discovered. It is believed that they are the outcome of a battle between Romans and Germans 200 years after the Varus Battle, which took place 9 A.D. The discovery may be crucial to correcting the histocial view, because it prooves that the Romans did not surrender and withdraw as recently believed, but conducted larger military operations in Germany, involving Roman troops and not only German mercenaries. Archeologists have recovered at least 600 weapons while beeing protected from the public in the rural region of Niedersachsen. Among the artifacts found were arrows containing DNA samples and weapons of all sorts. The finding is due to a surprise discovery of a resident, who found antique bottles on his ground last year and just recently contacted the Archeological institute to present his discovery, after which a closer look was payed to the Area. The recovered artifacts will be presented on an exibition on Monday.

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White Dragon
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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 12 2008, 11:50 PM 

""The recovered artifacts will be presented on an exibition on Monday.""

@Shlawa do you now if this exibition are shown on net ?
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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 13 2008, 12:01 AM 

If Spiegel brings them ill post them. Dont know anything more than whats in the article.

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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 15 2008, 9:51 AM 

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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 15 2008, 4:33 PM 

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- Historians estimate the number of Legionaires in the Battle to be around 1000, and say the weapons are good enough preserved to even reconstruct where bigger numbers of arrows were aimed at.


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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 16 2008, 1:17 PM 

Roman Battlefield Discovered in Germany
December 15, 2008
Associated Press

KALEFELD-OLDENRODE, Germany - Archaeologists say they have uncovered a third-century battlefield in northern Germany which could prove that Roman legions were fighting in the region much later than historians have long believed.

Rome's most famous incursion into the north of modern Germany came in A.D. 9, when Roman soldiers were defeated by Germanic tribesman at the Battle of the Teutoberg Forest.

However, the newly uncovered battlefield near Kalefeld-Oldenrode, south of Hanover, is some 200 kilometers (124 miles) northwest of the Teutoberg Forest and appears to date to between A.D. 180-260.

At a press conference Monday, archeologists said they used coins and weaponry excavated from an area 1 1/2 kilometers (one mile) long and 500 meters (1/3 of a mile) wide to date the battlefield.

Petra Loenne, an archaeologist for the state of Lower Saxony, said she and her colleagues have found 600 artifacts, including spears, arrowheads, catapult bolts and dishes at the site of a struggle that might have involved up to 1,000 Roman fighters.

Guenther Moosbauer, an expert at the University of Osnabrueck who studies Roman-German history, said he suspects the battle might have been started by a legion seeking revenge after tribesman in A.D. 235 pushed Roman troops south of the Limes Germanicus, a ring of forts that separated the empire from unconquered land to the north and east.

"We will need to take a new look at the sources," Moosbauer said.

http://www.military.com/news/article/roman-battlefield-discovered-in-germany.html?wh=news

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White Dragon
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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 19 2008, 10:15 AM 

Read about Legion II Augusta , good reading.

 
 

White Dragon
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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 22 2008, 12:05 AM 

And also Legion I Augusta was there.


 
 

White Dragon
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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 22 2008, 12:33 AM 

Roman battlefields in Germania after Varus defeat year 9 AD think it shows from 14 AD.

Soory dont work for me at all , so a link instead.

http://www.culturalresources.com/Maps.html#rome

And if you are serius ? search for the Roman Legions !

BTW III Augusta was in Roman province of Africa , Tebessa and Lambresiae.

 
 


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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 23 2008, 12:57 AM 

The power of Rome








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Re: Battlefield in Northern Germany found, indicating a battle 200 years after Varus defeat

December 23 2008, 4:26 AM 

""The power of Rome""

LoL! Numidian Cavalry (Berber) and Syrian Arcers and Gauls , Germanians , around 230 AD there was little or no > Roman < in the Legions. <br>
And max was 600.000 thousend of Legionares.

The Battle of Cannae

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