Zidane is not an angel but the rumor is Mazeratti called him a terrorist.
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The fact he attacked the ugly wog, and therefore played his game, cannot be justfied; but since he had a go at the wog, at least send him to the hospital, for Christ sake.
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Zidane wanted to show a "fighters" face to his future voters. All this was a theatre so that all the immigrants from Algeria and Senegal would give him political support... So what if he was called a terrorist?
I won't be surprised if Zidane will be struck by a Fiat in the near future.
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Italy floats in soccer heaven
Night of wild celebrations for Azzurri's fourth World Cup (ANSA) - Rome, July 10 - After a night of wild celebrations, Italy is preparing to welcome home the Azzurri heroes who gave the nation its fourth World Cup Sunday .
"It's All True - Champions of the World," read Monday's front-page headline of sports daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, above a photo of captain Fabio Cannavaro holding high the sport's most sought-after trophy .
"The Italy of Champions," declared Milan-based daily Corriere della Sera .
The Azzurri return from Germany Monday afternoon for a victory party at Rome's Circus Maximus, the site of an ancient chariot-racing arena. AS Roma and Italy star Francesco Totti said he wants at least "two million" fans to come .
With the match tied at 1-1, Italy beat France 5-3 on penalties in Sunday's final .
Palermo left-back Fabio Grosso nailed the winning spot-kick, sparking celebrations that lasted till dawn .
Fans sprayed each other with prosecco sparkling wine - French champagne was avoided - and launched the so-called 'carousel' of people buzzing around in cars and scooters, waving flags and hooting their horns .
Some even squeezed into the open boots of automobiles, while others cruised around on the roofs to get a better view of the parting and groups of friends piled into the backs of trucks .
One of Rome's famous 'speaking statues' - which have been used for centuries by local people for graffiti poking fun at the authorities - featured a notice announcing the death of French football .
"In 25 years time, when today's generation of children are adults, Italy's World Cup celebrations will stay in their memories," wrote Gianni Riotta in Corriere della Sera .
"July 9 2006 will be alongside joys like a wedding with confetti or a sand castle at the beach with a child ". The unofficial anthem of the victory was the "po-po-po-po-po-po-po" riff of the White Stripe's song 'Seven Nation Army' - some fans changed the lyrics to "the cham-pions of the wor-ld" .
The tune was originally adopted as a soccer chant by AS Roma fans and was then adopted for the national side .
There was also plenty of chanting casting aspersions about the villain of the night - France's Zinadine Zidane, who was sent off for head-butting Italy defender Marco Materazzi .
Curiously the two players were also the protagonists of the main events of the match during regular time. After just six minutes Materazzi tripped France's Florent Malouda in the penalty area and Zidane chipped in the resulting spot-kick .
The Inter stopper soon made amends, heading home the equalizer at the other end. Materazzi also scored one of Italy's five penalties in the shoot-out .
"It is the greatest (feeling of satisfaction) of my life," said Azzurri coach Marcello Lippi .
"I won the Champions League and the Intercontinental Cup with Juventus, but the World Cup transmits other types of emotions" .
AC Milan midfielder Gennaro Gattuso said the match-fixing scandal that threatens to see his club relegated, along with three others - Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina - actually helped the Azzurri at Germany 2006 .
"Without the scandal we would not have won this World Cup," the player said. "It gave us strength and team spirit" .
Italy's three previous World Cup wins came in 1982, 3-1 against West Germany; in 1938, 4-2 against Hungary; and in 1934, 2-1 against Czechoslovakia .
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Point is, Zidane has been playing professional football for what?
18 years? And in all that time, you think that a French player of Algerian origins hasn't heard everything before? Especially in France, "sale arabe".
So it's really incredible that he lost it there and then, unless of course the pressure of the event, this being his last game ever and all the other elements all came to a head.
According to The Guardian Materazzi told Zidane that he was a terrorist.
As Zidane was very friendly with Buffon some minutes earlier, it should have been something seriously bad, involving bad sexual behavior by his female relatives, hints at intercourse with various kind of animals or heavy racial slur (or all together):
"goat-****ing Ayrab cutthroat spawn of a syphilitic whore and an HIV-positive pig", may be ? But usually football players aren't too good at creative insult, and anyway, as my mother taught me:
"Never answer provocations"...and Zizou behaved very, very badly.
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This message has been edited by diquinonsipassa on Jul 10, 2006 1:35 PM
"Zidane wanted to show a "fighters" face to his future voters. All this was a theatre so that all the immigrants from Algeria and Senegal would give him political support... So what if he was called a terrorist?
I won't be surprised if Zidane will be struck by a Fiat in the near future.``
Buddy you were alright b4, now you just turned into a total ****tard. Shut the **** up, have u been drinking?
And Eric_de whatever, are you sure it was because of the headbutt that you nolonger like zidane, and think platini is the best? are you sure it has nothing to do with your racist attitude and the fact that platini is a true french in your terms while zidane is muslim?
I can only say "soar losers", Zidane had absolutely no right whatsoever to do what he did. We don't know what Materazzi said to Zidane. But to encourage such behaviour is disgusting, what must the youngsters think of this.
OK, he insulted me (we don't know this !!!!!!) let's kick him hard. I will be out, but so will he and I will be supported by everyone.
Yes, that's the way it should be
Don't try this at home lads
"The enemy dies relaxed," observed a Lockheed Martin manager.
In the end Mazzarati was the winner, he scored the equalizer, got zidane sent off, scored the penalty and won the world cup. Tell me whose the true loser? Macho man?
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Issa I'm not bitter, only because you yourself cannot accept defeat and curse on the team that defeated you doesn't mean I'm the same. I've said this once and i'll say it again, France beat brazil fair and square and deserved it. Thats it, Zidane is a great player and imho 2nd best in french history (behind Platini). What he did was awful and the fact that you support what he did is just as bad.
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Lol Issa!!! I see you failed in every single one of your predictions in this Mundial. But I can't understand why you get so excited?! It's just a game, that's why knocking out players on the pitch is not tolerated anymore.
I have a feeling Pheobus that issa knows very little about the beautiful game. btw I love it how you use the term "mundial" thats so south american of you. lol
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Thank you and good night to you to, I wish I knew some greek but your complicated language is the main and sole reason which keeps me from living there. I'm off to the "kafeinioelas" (spelling?) peace.
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F*** off BrazilPride, you don't tell me I do not know football! Iranians care more about football, know more about football, and have more fights over football than any wanker European or Latino! And you referring to it as "beautiful game" is GAY!!!
And Mundial is the sh*ttiest word in any language. Farsi counterpart is best: "Jaam-e Jahani"
Dude that guy is a sissy little girl, the pussy went down like chicken ****.
btw Sucks for Italy, cause thanks to the girlie little bitch players they have no one likes the Italian team other than the Italians themselves, honestly I've never seen a team so hated by everyone.
Man what is every Muslim so bitter about? Zidane was not representing the Muslim world but the French. He let the French down by letting his emotions get the better of him. In the end, he may have cause France to lose, who knows.
PS Zidane is not Muslim...
Also, to Phoebus and BrazilPride... IMHO BRING BACK 1980'S FOOTBALL. **** these players are bunch of sissy bitches now. Maradona was getting hacked like a piece of wood by a lumberjack, yet he stood his ground and ran on to kick goals. The new players just fall over and roll around like a bunch of beached whales with a harpoon stuck in their sides.
Have you ever seen Pele play a game (on reply of course)? This guy got ****ing hammered every time he got the ball, yet still managed to kick more goals then these free kick whores.
Der Kaiser (beckenbauer for football n00bs) got hit more times then any other player IMO, his shines are pretty ****ed now a days. Yet we compare players like Ronaldo and Rooney to these Demi-God's.
These players get hit and run on. Now a days, we have these players fall over and act better then Brad Pit.
I totally agree that Zidane acted like a dumb ass (deserved everything he got). What I'm saying is that football is becoming so pansy like its not funny. Personally Zidane should of at least headbutted his face (may as well since he was going to get a red card, a ban, and get disgraced)... Maybe bring back the manly football for a day.
The best game easily this world cup was Portugal Vs Netherlands... They acted like men (first time ever for Portugal) and reminded me of the 1970's/1980's football. Bring back the hooligans, the nationalistic (not racism unless your a total sensitive bitch) chants and insults and BRING BACK THE MEN ON THE FIELD!!!!!!! God how I wished Ronaldo was stuck in a time warp and got hacked in the legs, then he would have had a reason to cry about (and go to hospital).
We are watching the bloody Women's world cup.
But whatever, if you like watching the tactical 'simulations' (WTF?) go for your life, every country is becoming a culprit and its getting to insane levels.
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"F*** off BrazilPride, you don't tell me I do not know football! Iranians care more about football, know more about football, and have more fights over football than any wanker European or Latino! And you referring to it as "beautiful game" is GAY!!!"
LOL issa that was your funniest post to date, do you really believe that Iran is more passionate and more knowledgable about the game than europeans and latinos? Damn do you know how many brazilian coaches their are overseas? Do you know that there were three brazilians coaching in the world cup? How many iranians? How is referring to the beautiful game, "gay"? The way we play it down south its an art form, maybe you should come to the beaches of copacabana to see how the game is truly played you seem to have no idea lol.
"And Mundial is the sh*ttiest word in any language. Farsi counterpart is best: "Jaam-e Jahani"
Yes indeed Jaam- e Jahani sounds so natural........ lol
"God bless Zidane!"
god bless u 2 issa
@Zana that was funny I'll give you a point for that last comment.
@Rzcec I agree that you have alot of people falling down now in days, but Maradona did the same thing back in his day, so good was his ability that he decided when to stay up or not. The man cheated alot, that doesn't take away the fact that he's probably the best player ever to grace a football pitch. Pele did stay on his feet but he was fouled so much in the world cup of 66 (bs european referring) that he vowed never to play in a world cup again.
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i don´t care whether zidane is a muslim or not but he was the greatest player of the last decade and that dirty rat materazzi called zidane´s sister a prostitute. i mean, how would you react???
this just shows the dirty attitude of the italians.
anyway, 2010 ivory coast is going to be the next world champion.
Rzeczpospolita The best game easily this world cup was Portugal Vs Netherlands... They acted like men (first time ever for Portugal) and reminded me of the 1970's/1980's football.
Portugal Vs Netherland the best game ??? WTF it was one of the worse: run - fault - kick, run - fault - kick and so on. No action or fair play, with the Portuguese waiting the first good occasion .. to dive.
I can't agree less.
The best match was France vs Spain or FRance vs Brasil. and no I'm not biased
Now, we all agree that Zidane should have aimed higher. But where I don't agree at all it is when some say he sould have targetted the nose. That is non sens and even dangerous.
No guys, be serious, he should have targetted the mouth and make Materazzi eat his teeth. That's less dangerous but more spectacular
To finish, have you Noted that the Italians are less upset than the first concerned: the Italians and the French ?
We are already going over it, but we'll get you next time Italian be sure of that.
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Self dignity is priceless! Nothing compares to it. You cannot buy it, not even with all the gold in the world so dont ever trade it. This, in other words would be Zizou message to us all.
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Lee the nose is nice and satisfying to hit though, you get a good crunch noise
Good point but I'm affraid i still differ: the nose is not more "satisfying". It's just more "comfortable": hitting The mouth you can hurt your head with the teeth. but sometime you have to be ready to accept some sacrifice in life specially after having been called "terrorist".
This message has been edited by ultrarep on Jul 11, 2006 4:46 PM
Zidane did it. And i'm glad it was him who did it, even if it's not a good exemple.
That probably cost the cup to the french team...but eventually, the sight of this scum rolling on the ground was worth it. .
BTW, this story is far from being over and mazerOtti will have to explain himself.
Zidane is a legend... the other scum is just a scum and will always be.
Cheating, looking at the ref' all the time better than try to succeed with your own strenth, cowardness, insult with the protection of stupid rules so that you don't take your responsabilitie, be a b!tch who crybaby, fly away as if you were hitted by a IED everytime someone touch you...
...Zidane is an example to all of us.
DO NOT ACCEPT TO BE INSULTED!!! NEVER!!! WHATEVER THE SITUATION
Be patient, let he's chance to the ofender, be cool, treat problems with humour as far as possible... but at least if nothing else work:
"The builders of this empire were not worthy of such an army. Two centuries of persecution could not wear out its patience; two centuries of thankless toil could not abate its ardour; two centuries of conquest could not awaken its insolence. Dutiful to its masters, merciful to its enemies, it clung steadfastly to its old, simple ideas - obedience, service, sacrifice."
Why do people think I am prone to support France? Are people such idiots that they do not realise the Osirak nuclear reactor was built by them? That the Exocets being fired at our cargo ships were French-built? That the Mirages and Super Entendards flying sorties over our airspace were French?
There is no reason for me to be biased toward France! If anything I would be biased toward Italy!
This message has been edited by Davari on Jul 12, 2006 12:10 AM
I never said you were better but your not more knowledgable and your not more passionate, ask any neutral observer. Your posts don't have the tone of a moderator, I'd quite while your ahead or you'll have your rank removed.
peace.
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Re: Zidane should have aimed higher !
July 12 2006, 1:20 AM
What you saw at that moment was the real Zidane, the Zidane withough the tens of millions of dollars and worldwide fame. You saw a ghetto Arab losing his cool, as ghetto arabs are apt to do. Who knows, if Zidane had not become a footballer and a millionare, he might well have become a terrorist, or at least a hoodlum scum of the streets like so many of his French Arab brothers. So if Matarazzi had called him a terrorist, he could well be right. It is very easy for him to be high and mighty and "love his country" when he has all that he has. The best that can be said of this incident is that Zidane stepped of the stage wearing his true colours.
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@BrazilPride
Shouldn't you be busy having your monthly hard-on? Seeing that you Brazilians are surrounded by half-naked women all the time, it is only logical to assume you become immune (and therefor impotent)...
LOL "month long hard on" no issa i'm fine thanks for the concern though I rather be in my situation than yours. Don't cheat on yourself bro... resist the urge
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Quote:What you saw at that moment was the real Zidane, the Zidane withough the tens of millions of dollars and worldwide fame. You saw a ghetto Arab losing his cool, as ghetto arabs are apt to do. Who knows, if Zidane had not become a footballer and a millionare, he might well have become a terrorist, or at least a hoodlum scum of the streets like so many of his French Arab brothers. So if Matarazzi had called him a terrorist, he could well be right. It is very easy for him to be high and mighty and "love his country" when he has all that he has. The best that can be said of this incident is that Zidane stepped of the stage wearing his true colours.
Go tell a berber he is an arab, and he'll slit your throat open.
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I don't understand, is there shame in being Arab?
What do you support ignorance? It is out of ignorance that he claimed Berbers are Arabs. If you were smarter than that you should be supporting me instead of this NAZI c0ckhead.
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Hold up zane now as much as I find Rooney a low class piece of white trash, to say that Ronaldo is better I think its a bit unfair. Sure he dribbles alot more, which is nice but Rooney can change the face of the game in an instant, blistering pace, strong and very accurate.
@mash how can you expect anyone to take that "ranking" seriously, come on, America? Tunisia? Iran? To me the funniest one was how the U.S is there all they did was paint themselves with the red,white and blue, wow! Iran i didn't even see them they were always outnumbered by all the other supporters, especially in the mexico game.
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This message has been edited by brazilpride on Jul 12, 2006 1:58 PM
sorry TWO trick pony he can get a 7.0 for diveing as well
To be fair he has great potential, but right now that all it is potential. He never fulfilled it at United perhaps he can at Madrid. Fergie alienated Van the man for him who will probably now also leave and all it earned him is a kick in the balls. I think he wanted to leave before the world cup with all the crap that got leaked to the press and this is the perfect excuse for him, I also think Madrid told him to play it this way to force the price down but knowing Fergie if he did go on strike he would make him sit in the reserves for a while and let him rot first.
F*ck you Ronaldo, you’re a diving little s*it and you stabbed United and Fergison in the back, I am glad your windows got smashed
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Guys, wearing body paint and wearing the teams top or flag doesn't mean your a better fan. In the games I saw with Iran, the fans sat around picking their noses half the time, or sat quietly watching the match.
In the Germany matches, the crowd was roaring half the time with chants. In the Netherlands matches, Polish, Croat, Italian, English, Spanish matches the fans were incredible. They didn't shut the **** up.
You can't compare the zealous fanship of Europe and Latin America to Iran's. I mean American fans better then German or Italian... seriously dudes... the Americans don't even understand the offside rule (look to Panda). Iran is in its infant stages in fanship compared to these continents, I would say Koreas fans own all Asian fans... those guys don't shut the **** up, until they get hammered into the ground (the team I mean).
@ ultrarep
Thats cause you don't appriciate the fact these guys didn't act like pansy's, but just went to hack. The reason there were so many fouls is because this is how far this sport has degenerated into a women's game of netball rather then the physical mans sport it was.
@ BrazilPride
Cheating? They are cheating now, what difference does it make? I'll tell you what difference... if this was the 1980's, the Italian Grosso wouldn't have got a penalty against Australia. Nor would have Henry got one against Portugal. It would have forced them to be aggressive, constant attack is the only way.
As a matter of fact, maybe Ronaldo would have grown some balls and actually not fall over 85% of the time.
Like I said... I enjoy the old ways far better then the new ways... Watching replays of the old world cups with 2-3 score lines, no yellows or reds, and some true hard fighting for that goal... well....
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If I support the Palestinian's I'm a dirty Liberal with a self hating conscience that loves death, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
"Cheating? They are cheating now, what difference does it make? I'll tell you what difference... if this was the 1980's, the Italian Grosso wouldn't have got a penalty against Australia. Nor would have Henry got one against Portugal. It would have forced them to be aggressive, constant attack is the only way.
As a matter of fact, maybe Ronaldo would have grown some balls and actually not fall over 85% of the time.
Like I said... I enjoy the old ways far better then the new ways... Watching replays of the old world cups with 2-3 score lines, no yellows or reds, and some true hard fighting for that goal... well...."
Well you should also know that back then, football wasn't as physical as it is today, players weren't as strong thats where I think the game is losing in beauty. Just look at the body structures of the players back then to now. The thing is referreing is pretty crap now and their far to sensetive, however we need to realize that not everyone plays hard football like the english and germans do. Thats why Brazil didn't win the cup of 66. I agree that Italy shouldn't have gotten the penalty, along with Henry but I think we need to include technology as they do in american sports, because we get far to much controvesy now in days.
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@Rzec
Our numbers were not high in Germany, what do you expect? You heard the Europeans because they were greater in numbers. And we don't cheer a team who is losing, we curse them. So...
Just saw Zidanes interview and I thought he was noble in admitting what he did was wrong. You can tell he didn't want it to happen but I don't believe him when he said he didn't regret it. If he could go back he wouldn't have done the same thing. Zidane should be commended for this, but I don't think he deserves the golden boot, not because of his actions but because he wasn't the best player on the pitch. However I don't want fifa to take away his award soley because of that one incident.
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I could show you the same thing all around the world, that doens't make them better fans. And the Mexicans were about the same in number, yet they were always loud. Argentinian fans were not the largets, yet they were loud as well... Numbers doesn't matter, just passion... 1500 Australian's in the Dutch-Australian friendly made more noise (though I think we are even worse, because most Australian's were bandwaggon jumpers, not like the Ethnic's).
@ BrazilPride
Zidane had every right really. He should have held it in on proffessional terms, but I would have loved to smack that smug Italian Materrazzi... If he kept saying it, I would have broken his nose.
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@Rzec
You know nothing about Iran's passion for football, I do not know why I bother arguing with someone who has his mind made up.
In Germany, during Germany's own matches, there were people in the stands waving non-German flags. If another country plays Iran's national team in Iran, you will not see a single non-Iranian flag. And if you did, you can be sure it would not remain for long (i.e. that person's ass would be kicked)!!!
In every single Esteghlal-Perspolis match, someone dies in a fan fight. Riot police need to be called to most club matches and every national team match. I have never went to an Esteghlal-Perspolis match for this very reason, I feared for my life! Show me another country where people routinely kill for a mere football disagreement!
@Rzcec it gives him a reason to hit someone or in his case headbutt, but it isn't the right thing to do, especially in a world cup final. Like i've said earlier playing in Argentina, were its truly dirty i've had alot of sh!t said at me but the right thing to do is ignore it and let your feet to the talking.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
You're right Brasilpride and i can't understand why some people are rude with you about it because this point of view is the good one for people who have good and peace values.
The problem is more to forgive Zidane, try to understand his move.
A kind of understanding toward him better than trying to give lessons.
Ten minutes before the end of his career... what came through his brain? nobody know.
The way I understand it:
"In 10 mn it's the end of my career ... I'm tired ... this bastard insult me .... i'm used with this - i ignore .... i've been insulted for all my life .... if I don't headbutt now, I'd never do it anymore .... and tomorow morning i'd see in the mirror someone who've been insulted for all his life without reaction .... this bastard keep insulting my race, my sister, my mother"
... All this in 1/10th second.
-> HEADBUTT!!
Finally he just show that he's not a half-god or a saint. He's a human.
And on the pitch, it hasn't changed much IMHO. Zidane was tired.
I could say the same thing. You just made up your mind and call traditional ultra-hardline fans like the Barney Army, The Deustchland Brigade, Polska Ludzje, Italian Patriot's (can't remember the right name) and many others as less passionate.
You are calling nations who's people have been following football for about a century and playing it for just as long less passionate with a nation that till recently had a regime that disliked the sport fervently. We in Europe and South America have clubs that are older then the national teams, and in Iran if I'm correct only formed a professional league on par with third tier clubs 5 years ago.
Like I said, until I see Iranians even when outnumbered, after losing a match and start rioting in a foreign nation... English fans do it, Polish, Italian and Spanish are all famous for it. Argentinian fans go nuts in South American world cups. Colombians, Peruvians, Uruguayans are all famous for becoming dirty when an opposing side wins, or comes to their nation to play.
Iranian supporter's are not famous for any incident or fanfare.
I never stated they are not passionate, I have stated they are not more passionate then Europeans and South American. So come on mate, no need to insult.
If I support Israeli's I'm an evil Zionist who loves killing, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
If I support the Palestinian's I'm a dirty Liberal with a self hating conscience that loves death, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
I must say the most passionate supporters in terms of noise are the Uruguyans, i saw their play off game in Montevideo in 2001 and 2005 and when they score the sound that follows is unbelievable. Rzec you make a good point regarding clubs and their histories.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
@Rzec
The government disliked football? Your basing this on what? Word of mouth of some Shahi? Shahis have also said that the police forced a young girl who wore nail police to put her hands in a bowl of roaches, do you believe them? Shahis always lie, this is fact.
As for not participating in WC qualifiers in 1982 and 1986, we were fighting a war. How can we fund sport when we are fighting a total war?
I saw this on a documentary about Iranian football history (along with the other group teams histories). The Regime didn't like football for some odd reason or another (something like disgraceful or un-honourable I don't remember, don't quote me on that), but after seeing how much people loved and enjoy it they embraced it with open arms. Its similar to Soviet Union's stance on many types of sports, football was one of them, and changed immediately when they realised their people loved it and could actually play.
But am I not wrong that Iran only set up a league that is considered third tier only recently? Not mistaken a good 5 years ago?
This is where fans build up their passion. This is where national pride starts. Clubs with histories that stretch to early 1900's even late 1800's. Fan rivalry, chant making, hooliganism, flag bearing, PASSION. It all makes for one big show in World cups.
@ BrazilPride
Uruguayans go NUTS. They spat on us in 2001, swore, threatened, even threw crap. They are blood thirsty fans. They think cause their team won in the amateur days of the world cup (as in before the professionalisation of Football in the 70's) they are God's team. In two of the world cups half the teams didn't even show up (one in Uruguay had NO European teams).
They are dirty, and by God it was the best day when we beat those divine right SOBs... bloody peasants.
If I support Israeli's I'm an evil Zionist who loves killing, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
If I support the Palestinian's I'm a dirty Liberal with a self hating conscience that loves death, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
Rzec true, but still I mean gotta hand it to the Uruguyans a nation of 3 million and they beat Brazil on home soil, in a world cup final with a record attendance of 200,000 people! The little bastards beat us.
@Issa but unlike in Europe or in south america in Iran you don't have teams that have been around for over 100 years, their are rivalries that are much older than my grandparents.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
I'm sure there is no need (if you did see the documentary) for Fifa to lie about whether or not the Iranian's love football or not.
Iran's league is a little ahead of Australia's, in terms of time. Iran only recently revamped the league to be on par with other third tier leagues (equal to leagues such as Australia, Austria, Greece, Poland etc).
Australia only did this a year ago, before that only ethnics played or supported the teams in the SNL. Those were some hard times, thank God for Frank Lowy.
And what the hell is a 'Shahis' programme?
Also to your other comment...
Quote:And we don't cheer a team who is losing, we curse them. So...
That's not very good of you... I can understand club football, but the National team? Poles tend to mourn the national team, but then lash out later at the coach or single players.
@ Brazil
Yeah well, They can eat dirt for all I care, WE WON!
If I support Israeli's I'm an evil Zionist who loves killing, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
If I support the Palestinian's I'm a dirty Liberal with a self hating conscience that loves death, a product of propaganda and manipulation.
To BrazilPride
Esteghlal and Perspolis were both established in 1945. So there has been a rivalry for 61 years, is that so much less than 100?
To Rzec
Shahi = Shah supporter
Shahis = The plural of 'Shahi'
Shahi Programme = A television programme or documentary which is infested with Shahi propaganda
_______________________________________________________ "Pulver ist Schwarz, Blut ist rot, golden flackert die Flamme" Ferdinand Freiligrath (1810-1876)
And the rivalry between River and Boca has been on for over a century!
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
Issa, there one sees your country is as unable unfortunately
sry
_______________________________________________________ "Pulver ist Schwarz, Blut ist rot, golden flackert die Flamme" Ferdinand Freiligrath (1810-1876)
OK, so two teams are 61 years old... What about the rest?
But I wouldn't want two clubs that have all the support (think Celtic and Rangers) and the rest are merely there to fill the void.
Either way mate, I reckon your a funny bastard, and you are much more passionate then most others (I wrecked my knuckles when I punched my hand through a fence after the Italy game, and much more).
On WAFF, I Have been called both an Anti-Semitic and Islamophobe... One contradicts the other in terms of politics.
To Rzec
Well obviously the two Tehrani teams are going to have the most supporters. In a country of 75 million people, Tehran is home to 14 million of them. And as of late other clubs are emerging to be as strong if not stronger than the Tehran teams. Such as Sepahan Esfahan or Foolad Ahvaz. Esteghlal won its only IPL title just last year.
@Issa "And anyone who thinks Italy deserves the title of "World Champion" is Italian."
Well, then that's about the two billion people across the globe that rooted for Italy, plus FIFA, UEFA, and all other major soccer organizations.
Wow, that's a lot of Italians.
But it doesn't matter what you say, Issa, because the new Azzurri jerseys will be shown with four stars, while umm, the Iranians....Umm....Oh well, stars aren't everything.
"Zizou, Zizou, il campione del mondo non sei tu!" I love that song....
I will wreak havoc upon my French teacher when school reopens, not only with this song, but also with a mock-singing of "Zidane y va marquer." Hopefully she knows I'm joking and doesn't fail me for that.....LOL
"When valour takes the field, short will the conflict be; Barbarian rage shall yield the palm to Italy. The vital spark remains, and Roman blood still warms Italians' veins."
- Petrarch
Hehehe, the stars are a nice thing to have, especially when your jersey has more than any other team.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
The stars signify level of gayness.
We have no stars, so our gayness level is ZERO.
Why are you even getting new kits? Didn't you just switch to the new Puma kits?
Level of gayness? More like level of quality, you have no zero stars so your level of quality is zero.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
Well okay lets analyze this, we (ppl who've won the world cup) are gay? Yet ppl who haven't won are not? If so then I rather be gay.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
Yes it does, 1 star means one world cup win and 4 stars means 4 world cup wins. heheh simple no? Theirs no homo sexual connotations.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
LONG LIVE THE LOSERS WHO NEVER WON A WORLD CUP!! LETS EMBRACE CONSTANT DEFEAT!!
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
I am sorry, do I hear gays jealous of our heterosexual team?
In Iran the girls throw themselves at footballists, in the gay countries men throw themself.
lol Some how I doubt iranian players get any, their probably a bunch of broke mo fo's. Yes and the brazilian team is gay this is when deformed beings like Ronaldinho get any girl he wants. But whatever I'll be gay and proud if that means winning a world cup trophy.
"Brazil has rediscovered itself, and this rediscovery is being expressed in its people's enthusiasm and their desire to mobilize to face the huge problems that lie ahead of us."
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva
"Pulver ist Schwarz, Blut ist rot, golden flackert die Flamme" Ferdinand Freiligrath (1810-1876)
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