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England V South Africa

October 15 2007 at 7:07 PM

Rzecz  (Login Rzeczpospolita)
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Any predictions? I personally think South Africa are overall favourites, with good cause... but after the shalaking the English got by the South Africans the first time, I don't see the English winning. I would say the score will be around 10-18

It'll be a hard fought dual, but I just personally don't see the English winning.

However, the English have suprised EVERYONE by beating both France and Australia... who knows? First back to back?



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Re: England V South Africa

October 15 2007, 7:13 PM 

If SA does not win I will be extremely suprised. Of course I'll be rooting for my Afrikaner brothers.

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Tell the wretched natives, sinful are their hearts,
Turn their heathen temples into spirit marts.
And if to your teaching they will not succumb,
Give them another sermon with the Maxim gun...

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You their Chief must hocus, and annex their land;
And if they misguided call you to account,
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Rob
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Re: England V South Africa

October 15 2007, 7:59 PM 

Well, it will be a very hard game and very close, but overall I am obviously hoping for an England victory and I think they can do it, their advantages in my opinion include more experience, bigger will power, them peaking at the right time whilst South Africa seems to have peaked too early and are slowly getting worse again (though on a high level), the scrum and some other things. South Africa also has some areas where they are slightly better, but in the end England need to play a brutal (but within the rules) and very committed (e.g. Worsley ankle tackle) game as they did against France and Australia, I do not believe that South Africa is much better than either of these, so come on England.


 
 

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Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 3:54 PM 

Well here is why I think South Africa will win. In England's game against Australia, the English dominated the forward game to the extent that Austalia's superior backs did not have any opportunity to do their stuff. In the France game, things were equal: the forwards in both teams were evenly matched, and while the French backs were marginally better this superiority was not enough to have an impact. But ultimately, the English won by luck as much as anything else, the game could have gone either way.

Now, against South Africa, I expect that the forward game will be evenly matched as well, the SA forwards are physically big and know how to play. So this will not be an Australia. On the other hand, the SA backs are on another level compared to England. We have Du Preez and Burger who can always be counted on to create opportunities, and Habana and Petersen have the pace to just completely burn Englands' defenses. Montgomery this world cup has been superb with his conversions, as well.

So I think it will come down to an even forward game, as with France, but a completely superior back line for the SA will put the game away, which France couldn't do.

Onward Chartered Soldiers, on to heathen lands,
Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.
Take the glorious tidings where trade can be done,
Spread the peaceful gospel --- with a Maxim gun.

Tell the wretched natives, sinful are their hearts,
Turn their heathen temples into spirit marts.
And if to your teaching they will not succumb,
Give them another sermon with the Maxim gun...

When the Ten Commandments they quite understand,
You their Chief must hocus, and annex their land;
And if they misguided call you to account,
Give them another sermon --- with a Maxim from the Mount

 
 

Anonymous
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Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 6:25 PM 

using logic id have to back SA

obviously want england to win however they do it

forward battle: i think we will have the shove in the scrum, tho not
to the extent of the aussie game. Not sure will will dominate the breakdown though, need to deny quick ball or SA will run away with the game i think.

very relieved not an aussie ref!,they dont understand u compete at scrums lol.



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Anonymous
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France

Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 7:45 PM 

In my opinion i think South Africa will win, but who knows ? England beat Australia and France after all.

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Spider
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South America

Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 8:11 PM 

I hope England can win it, really. I'd love to see what all those pundits from the southern hemisphere have to say about it. They've been dismissing Argentina's game plan as boring and dull 'a la England'. One writer, even called us Mini-me England. lol.





 
 
Anonymous
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Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 10:52 PM 


I think the rugby rules which forbiddes forward throws ruins the game

I mean if you are allowed to kick the ball forward you should also be allowed to throw it in the offensive direction, that is one of the beauties of the otherwise boring american football


aussie rules seems to mix the best of the two games



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Anonymous
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Re: England V South Africa

October 16 2007, 11:23 PM 

England will win,

still doubt the worlc champions after being proven wrong 2 times? haha


 
 

Anonymous
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Re: England V South Africa

October 17 2007, 10:01 AM 

i initially thought france would advance at the expense of england. proven wrong. and england really played to their strength in that semi final.

both finalists are worthy winners but i can choose one it'll be england. they've proven their worth of salt.


 
 

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Re: England V South Africa

October 17 2007, 11:19 AM 

Anyone but the poms!

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Rob
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Re: England V South Africa

October 18 2007, 8:34 PM 

England has named Cueto in place of Lewsey who is injured, South Africa has named an unchanged side compared to their Argentina game, come on England.


 
 

Eric
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Re: England V South Africa

October 19 2007, 11:30 AM 

If Wilkinson plays at his normal level, England has a good chance of winning.
Against France he let 8 points slip, this might not happen against SA.


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Re: England V South Africa

October 20 2007, 2:17 PM 

Time wil tell, COME ON EGNLAND!

may the best team win.


 
 
Rob
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Re: England V South Africa

October 20 2007, 3:52 PM 

Come on England.


 
 
Anonymous
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South America

Re: England V South Africa

October 20 2007, 7:52 PM 

This is where my alligence lies...

Hopefully they can repeat what they did in 1995!

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Cuando vez un vagabundo porque no le das la mano
Le dices de lejitos 'Dios te bendiga!'
Pero no sacas ni un pesito pa' llenarle la barriga
Mira, te est�n mirando desde arriba
El evangelio no se trata de gastar saliva
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Chris
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Re: England V South Africa

October 20 2007, 9:46 PM 

Well done SA, Unlucky England. They didnt take their chances, and tough decisions went against us, Good Game.

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Anonymous
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South America

Re: England V South Africa

October 20 2007, 10:08 PM 

It was a very close decision, but the right one his leg crossed the line just before he placed the ball at the try line.

They were the best team all tournament, they scored some 33 trys to England's 12.

Hermano, usted que dice ser cristiano
Cuando vez un vagabundo porque no le das la mano
Le dices de lejitos 'Dios te bendiga!'
Pero no sacas ni un pesito pa' llenarle la barriga
Mira, te est�n mirando desde arriba
El evangelio no se trata de gastar saliva
Si quieres que te escuche, tienes que darle vida
Y darle un buen abrazo aunque este muriendo de SIDA

Vico c

 
 
Pymes75
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RedCoats(UK)

Well done South Africa

October 21 2007, 1:41 AM 

They deserved to lift the Webb Ellis...

Might have been a different story if only he had lifted his foot two niches earlier as the try would have put England back in the game! But hey, he was out and the South African defence was magnificent for the remainder of the second half.

Congratulations, to the 'Boks.

Well done England, you did your country proud - as did the ten of thousands of brilliant English Rugby fans who were first class through out the tournament and build up to the final!

 
 

Spider
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South America

Re: England V South Africa

October 21 2007, 8:02 PM 

Best world cup ever. Congratulations to the Springboks, and to the Pumas which I think were also the team of tournament. Imagine what we could do with more international competition.

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Anonymous
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Re: England V South Africa

October 21 2007, 10:49 PM 

Good game, felt we didnt disgrace ourselves.

Few decisions i didnt like, but im biased of course..and its not the done thing to dispute the ref in rugby.

Overall i think the better team won if being honest..good to see some of the young lads looking promising. Hopefully ashton will get time to build his own team now.

Oh and i think argentina HAVE to be allowed into the 6 nations now, i think they would be one of the stronger teams, and wonder how good they would get with regular matche at a high level?.

still gutted though lol

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Re: England V South Africa

October 22 2007, 6:46 PM 

That final was fuking boring though. Not a single try scored. I really think NZ should not have gone out against France. The French did not deserve to advance over NZ, just look at their performance against Argentina. SA vs NZ, now that would have been a game.

Onward Chartered Soldiers, on to heathen lands,
Prayer books in your pockets, rifles in your hands.
Take the glorious tidings where trade can be done,
Spread the peaceful gospel --- with a Maxim gun.

Tell the wretched natives, sinful are their hearts,
Turn their heathen temples into spirit marts.
And if to your teaching they will not succumb,
Give them another sermon with the Maxim gun...

When the Ten Commandments they quite understand,
You their Chief must hocus, and annex their land;
And if they misguided call you to account,
Give them another sermon --- with a Maxim from the Mount

 
 
Anonymous
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South America

Re: England V South Africa

October 27 2007, 4:41 PM 

Some pics of the Celebration...



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Hermano, usted que dice ser cristiano
Cuando vez un vagabundo porque no le das la mano
Le dices de lejitos 'Dios te bendiga!'
Pero no sacas ni un pesito pa' llenarle la barriga
Mira, te est�n mirando desde arriba
El evangelio no se trata de gastar saliva
Si quieres que te escuche, tienes que darle vida
Y darle un buen abrazo aunque este muriendo de SIDA

Vico c

 
 
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