In practice Romania could invade Hungary again any time. (Romania is a more important NATO ally, and Europe does't care.) What would Hungary and the Hungarians do if/when it happens again? (Use your imagination.)
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sorry to say, i am not sure of the outcome. romanians may not be the bravest people (just in my experience) but they are many.
my suggestion fow preventing it though would be strengthening alliances with our fellow outcasts on balkan such as the bulgars, horvaths and the albanians.
when you think about it the animosities, by far, outnumber the friendships in this part of the world and there are many nations that would celebrate the downfall of romania.
for instance; even if romania would win a war against hungary, they probably wouldn't be able to cope with bulgaria simultaneously
and, more importantly than anything, the EU wouldn't allow such a conflict within it's realm
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This is a childish, purely speculative question. First of all Romania and Hungary as members of NATO signed agreement about respecting, supporting each other sovereignty and territory. Any attack of Romania against Hungary would put Romania in breach of this agreement which would result in tremendous NATO pressure on Romania to stop invasion immediately. Assumption that Romania is more important than Hungary to NATO is faulted and pure speculation base on the fact that USA opted to establish their military bases in Romania. Romania could not possible gain any advantage by this kind of aggression since they would have to cede the conquered territories back after the NATO and EU intervention. Further more this kind of invasion would literally closed the EU door for Romania indefinitely and Romanians know very well that Romania is pose to gain far more by entering EU than by some ill-conceived invasion of Hungary , not that they would even think about something like that. Maybe before you post "fippo" try to think.
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A few month ago there was a Hungarian(?) question on the Bulgaria forum here, if Bulgarians were pissed off that their North Dobruja is now Romania. Few Bulgarians even cared to think of it, the one who actually answered wrote that absolutely not! Reasons were somethings like that there was a POPULATION EXCHANGE between Romania and Bulgaria, that Bulgaria gave Dobruja to Romania without war as a trade to get a corridor to the Agean sea from the Greeks, and that even though Bulgarian folklor survives in Dobruja, no Bulgarians live there (?????). So I think the 6 million Bulgarians may be our allies potentially, but it would require SOME work to open their eyes. When a Transylvanian Hungarian called them "stupid" for their attitude, they wrote that they were NEVER Bulgars but Bulgarians, the Bulgars were heritage thieving Turks, the Bulgarians being true slavs with no Asian passions but European brains (OUCH!). They really need some reminder that they are PEOPLE! (But who has time to work on that ... .) Can I have a wild question, fellow Hungarians? Would Austria be interested to team up with Hungary again and put some civilization back into Transylvania and the Banat or do they base their modern identity totally on their neutrality?
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all you wrote about north dobrogea is not true
it is not given by Bulgaria to romania but Rusia gave it to them in exchange of moldova(nowadays Republic of Moldova)
and there was excage of population ...there are sill alive peoples -refugies from there who remember this "exchage" very clear. In my birthday city Shumen there are neiberhood colled "Dobrogean" there where settled by refugies from dobrogea... there are another one "Thracen"
guest where peoples neme it comes from...
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Shumen, your post is a good news to Hungarians, because it means that Bulgarians don't consider Dobruja a Romanian land. So, are the Bulgarian people (on average) an active ally to the Hungarian people against the Romanian racism and expansionism? Also, would the Bulgarian people go to war for their North Dobruja if Hungary goes to war for its Transylvania? (At least theoretically, in their hearts.)
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It is too late for wars my friend...
Bulgaria and Romania will join to the big family you (Hungarians) are part already..
What is done is done... if we are talking for wars .. i don't now any other state which is naibour with itself .. North Dobrogea is bulgrian western outstrikes (In serbia) even Belgrad and braichevo has been bulgarian in the past (one of older names of belgrad is ALba Bulgarica) ) north greece has been bulgarian ofcource macedonia ...in 1912-1913 we we in war agains all our neibours Turky (of course) Serbia, montenegro greece and of course Romenia atack us in back ... what a heroizm ))
How we have to learn how to leve together ....
as i said what is done is done there will be no more wars in europe..
But i am afraid Europe will start (partisipate) a war against arabs (islamic states)...
i don't know it can be ...
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You are totally right, we must be able to live together. And that's why I don't understand your logic against a war with Romania.
It may not be the people of Romania that would be our enemy, but the political state called Romania is. Our enemy is the racist romanian school system, the racist romanian police, and the racist romanian judicial court system. All Amarican and EU analysts agree in their official opinion, that Romania maintains a deeply racist national curriculum and their racist political executive power prevents the independent operation of their judicial system.
In our EU "family", we not only require a totally independent executive and judicial system, but racist parties are outlawed! Romania's "Greater Romania" party is not only legal but has a 10% parliamentary representation too, and prints a newspaper that devotes a full page in every issue to bash other nationalities, people like you and I. Romania will never enter the EU like this!
Now after all this racist opression against our people, we, the original creators of the Balkans (Bulgaria, Croatia, Albania, and Hungary) MUST dismantle Romania. Note, that like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia, Romania only exists because the French created it in 1920 (Trianon), and the Soviets maintained it in 1945. But like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia, this third artificial state must disintegrate too.
It is therefore our NOBLE historic duty to get rid of that "country" and re-establish the natural order of the Balkan as we created it. This is IN the very interest of peace. A Balkan peace, that none of the world's super-powers want, because it would mean economic competition with them.
So Bulgarian Brothers, joins us in our fight to re-establish civilization in the rest of the Balkans.
(P.S.: By the way, Asian people like the Turkish know that there is no such thing as a Romanian people, they are only Armenian cattle-herdsmen who adapted a romanesce language.)
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To avoid misunderstandings about my previous posts, I must say that I didn't and will never advocate to bring down any government by violance. Our noble war I mentioned above is a political war only! In its essence it is against institutional racism. Its purpose is to bring Romanian politics up to EU standards. By no way do I mean a physical war and violance, ever!
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""I must say that I didn't and will never advocate to bring down any government by violance. Our noble war I mentioned above is a political war only! In its essence it is against institutional racism. Its purpose is to bring Romanian politics up to EU standards. By no way do I mean a physical war and violance, ever! ""
Cut that crap dumbhead! Political war is in your wet dreams, nowhere else. Your pathetic country can wage political wars on monkies in Madagascar ( you share same IQ). Why do think that anybody gives a crap about that ****y piece of land you call Magyarorszag , buzi?
Have good day
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