It is a sad day for the whole Church of Christ, but as what Bro. Erano Manalo, Ka Erdy always quote "To live is Christ, to die is gain". Truly, he lived a life in Christ and spending all of it in the service of God. His memories will stay in our hearts until we meet the Lord.
 

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If the Father, Son and HS are one person, then how can the Son

June 12 2009 at 10:21 PM
Tomas  (Login TomasSedlacek)


Response to its about three states of God not three person

 

talk to the Father? And the Father talk to the Son? For example when Jesus was baptized, the Father in heaven was talking to the Son on  the earth, and the Holy Spirit was descending on the Son like a dove. So clearly they are separate beings. Now possibly the HS is not a being, but just God's spirit, but the Son is clearly a separate being from God the Father. We don't know if the Son is God too, but he is clearly a different being from the Father. A different person, created by the Father.

On the other hand, Melchizedek is not created, but eternal. So he always existed. He too might be God. But he is not the Son, see Heb. 7:3. And he is not the Father, see Heb. 7:1.

As you said, everything is possible with God. So he could be several persons. He can create more persons within himself. So he might be now many persons. We cannot know. We know God is complex, but we don't know if the complexity involves being more than one person. If the Holy Spirit is a person within the Godhead, then the seven spirits of God mentioned in Revelation can be additional persons within the Godhead. But we don't know if they too are created. Maybe God is making himself more and more complex. But of course nobody can know everything about God. But we do know that the Father, the Son, and Melchizedek are 3 distinct persons. The idea that God is one person in 3 modes as the modalists, like the Oneness Pentecostals, claim, cannot be correct.


 
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  1. Hello! - Tom on Jun 14, 11:21 AM
    1. Hello, one thing we know, Jesus is not equal to the Father. - Tomas on Jun 18, 9:14 AM
      1. God in relation to Jesus in diff. translation - Tom on Jun 18, 9:34 PM
        1. Yes, but Jesus explained it in verse 10. - Tomas on Jun 19, 9:25 PM
      2. Father is Greater than I - Tom on Jun 18, 9:49 PM
        1. The Son is never called God the Son in the Bible. - Tomas on Jun 19, 9:58 PM
          1. your going too Far! - Tom on Jun 20, 5:27 PM
            1. There are many lords in the Bible, but only one God almighty. - Tomas on Jun 25, 1:28 AM
              1. what you see is what you get! - Tom on Jun 25, 6:28 PM
                1. All Bible translators are biased. - Tomas on Jun 26, 10:42 PM
          2. God the Father never be called Father only... - Tom on Jun 20, 5:36 PM
            1. What? God the Father is often simply called the Father. - Tomas on Jun 25, 1:35 AM
          3. Isaiah 9:6 pls explain to me.... - Thomas on Jun 20, 6:22 PM
            1. It is just a long name. - Tomas on Jun 25, 1:57 AM
              1. Stop making this up..... - Tom on Jun 25, 6:05 PM
                1. You are obviously not very familiar with Judaism. - Tomas on Jun 26, 11:02 PM
                  1. what is your point???!!!!!Nothing!heheheheh - Tom on Jun 27, 6:03 PM
                    1. My point is that even a Jewish translation is sometimes superior. - Tomas on Jul 2, 1:09 AM
                      1. They are FAKE! - Tom on Jul 4, 8:53 PM
                        1. Every translation is biased. - Tomas on Jul 9, 3:20 PM
                  2. One more thing about judaism... - Tom on Jun 27, 6:28 PM
                    1. I agree believers in Judaism are not saved. - Tomas on Jul 2, 1:15 AM
                  3. Your mind is two sided like a........ - Tom on Jun 27, 6:34 PM
                    1. I am firmly a Christian. - Tomas on Jul 2, 1:21 AM
                      1. So what is your point...... - Tom on Jul 2, 3:59 AM
                        1. My point is that even Christian translations are biased. - Tomas on Jul 4, 1:57 AM
                          1. well!well! - Tom on Jul 4, 4:25 AM
                            1. Nobody knows everything about Jesus. - Tomas on Jul 9, 3:34 PM
                              1. Stop making to many excuses!Just admit that your.... - Tom on Jul 19, 8:54 PM
                                1. There is no proof that Rev. 1:8 - Tomas on Jul 23, 12:42 AM
                                  1. can you tell me what it means verse Rev.1:8? - Tom on Jul 25, 8:38 PM
                                    1. The Lord in that verse is God himself. - Tomas on Jul 30, 4:07 AM
                                    2. Of course it was Jesus speaking...LoL! - Tom on Jul 31, 5:24 AM
                                    3. But the Father is there too in Revelation. - Tomas on Jul 31, 9:31 PM
     
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