There are many lords in the Bible, but only one God almighty.

You wrote:   New International Version (©1984)(Jesus said)
If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

*its seems like you didnt explain to me the above verse trying to change the main topic....hehehehe   Tomas: OK, let me explain this verse. There are two beings here, Jesus and his Father. His Father dwells in him. He acts the way his Father directs him. So when we know the Son we know the Father. Also they saw the Father in the sense that they saw his dwelling, Jesus, because the Father dwells in him. -----------------------------------------------------
You wrote:
*its seems like you dont read the old testament for you to relate it to the new testaments (you forgot the fact the there is no called God the Father from the old testament only after Lord Jesus Christ was born.....and from the old testament God wasnt called God the Father....but he was called Lord GOD.....not Lord God the Father
now from the new testament Jesus was called LOrd more than hundred times from the new
testments:now in connection to the old testaments:
it says on verse Deuteronomy 4:35
New International Version (©1984)
You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him.   Tomas: There are many lords in the Bible, but there is only one God, there is no other almighty God besides him. So just because Jesus is called lord too, does not prove he is God, much less that he is the Father. He might be God too, but he is not the Father, as I explained above concerning the first verse you gave me to explain. -----------------------------------------------------------------

You wrote: *its seems like getting abvious now that youre really INC ni Manalo pretending not to be.as you intoduced youreself from the previous forum... saying that youre not a member of them...you look like trying to cut every verses in the bible..like INC does...   Tomas: I am not pretending, I studied their doctrine lessons, but then I still disagreed with them on several issues, so I could not join their church. But I value their love of God and Christ. --------------------------------------------------------
You wrote: Like Col. 1:15 the first born of all creations..but you forgot the continuations of the verses
which is:
The Preeminence of Christ

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by [1] him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authoritiesall things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.   Tomas: The Greek word translated 'by' above is en, which normally means 'in'. Though what is meant by 'in' is not explained. Just like it is not explained what is meant by 'through him'. I believe that when Jesus comes back, he will explain to us all the difficult Bible verses. But it is no proof that Jesus created all things. Note that all things were created 'for him'. Now maybe Jesus created all things for himself, but that seems like a strange way to say that. Concerning verse 17, maybe Jesus was created before all things in time, as some churches believe. But it might not be saying about time. Maybe it means that he is before all things in rank, not in time.