Re: EvidenceAugust 29 2012 at 3:28 PM
Response to Crown
I'm not an expert. I'm not a historian. In fact, as good looking and charming as I am, I've never even played one on TV, so please take it easy on me. Please don't hammer me. I really don't want to get into a pissin' contest with you. I'm in search of information I'm trying to discover how the Regiment ended up with a screwed up cipher so that maybe, just maybe, a change could someday be made even though it may end up to be a futile exercise in tilting at windmills. The worst thing we could discover is that what I call a "screwed up" cipher was absolutely intentional and not accidental, as is my personal theory.
And what evidence do I have to support my theory? At present, not a whole lot. Only a guy feeling. Only a good eye for line.
You are one of the experts who have a wealth of knowledge, so we could use your help. Who knows what we might find? And both of us could be wrong - we were both wrong with the Latin "Empress". Both of us misspelled it .... turns out it's "Imperatrix", isn't it?
"That it appears on an RCR badge is more evidence that it is not 'early' Victorian." Well, quite frankly, neither one of us knows with any degree of certainty exactly how the Guelphic crown ended up on an RCR cap badge, do we? So just because it's on an RCR badge isn't a whole lot of evidence that the crown isn't an early Victorian style, is it? Hey, I've even seen the Edwardian crown on Victorian ciphers, so which came first? The chicken or the egg?
Same same with the "I" in the cipher ... we don't really know how The RCR ended up with the ol' Empress of India "I" in the cipher, do we?
If you read The Regimental Rogue, it would appear that somebody just thought it would be a good idea. Yep, out of the blue. It's a Colonial thing. Nobody really knows ... yet. For all we know, the answer could be hidden away in Queen Victoria's Indian manservant's newly discovered diary....
- Crown - Clive M. Law - Service Publications on Aug 29, 2012, 6:24 PM
- Mystery Deepens... - Bill A on Aug 30, 2012, 7:34 AM
- Re: Crowns - Alex on Aug 30, 2012, 9:29 AM
- Re: Mystery - Alex on Aug 30, 2012, 11:17 AM
- Cypher font - Bill A on Aug 31, 2012, 7:36 AM
- Re: Font - Alex on Aug 31, 2012, 9:46 AM
- Some fuel for the fire... - Bill A on Sep 10, 2012, 9:56 AM
- Stoke it up. Stir it up. - Alex on Sep 13, 2012, 10:31 AM
- Sealed Pattern - Alex on Sep 13, 2012, 4:23 PM
- Sealed patterns - Bill A on Sep 14, 2012, 5:39 AM
- Sealed pattern - Clive M. Law - Service Publications on Sep 14, 2012, 7:25 PM
- The Die - Alex on Sep 14, 2012, 7:36 PM
- The Dies - Clive M. Law - Service Publications on Sep 15, 2012, 4:17 PM