in 1957. Simply a three week holiday. No rockhounds, no kayaking or canoeing, no glacier climbing. Spent one week touring all the tourist spots, one week living in a marquee tent in the hills and one week in the camp as duty company which included providing cadets each night to go dancing at the Banff Springs Hotel. I was also the camp QM in 1974 when Base supply CFB Calgary supported it. I sent an MWO to be the RQMS and I stayed in Calgary but visited the camp to enjoy a day away.
Other camps include Ipperwash 1954 for the six week general military training course, Borden 1955 for the Infantry Signaller course which got me two stripes when I joined the Reserves two years later.
Also ran the adventure training activity in 1975 at Vernon BC camp. Spent the summer at the Glen Emma training range.
The good old days of youth and exuberance before old age and treachery took hold.
I checked out the banff website and noticed that a cadet from the airborne cadet corps had died while there, does anyone know how? I was on GD staff there in 1985, had a great time and met lots of friends, there were cadets from England and Germany there as well.
In the late 60s and early 70s it was $20 after two weeks, $20 more after the 4th week and the remaining $60 on last day.
My son now gets over $300. for his 6 weeks. Last year he was on Maple Leaf Exchange to the UK and this year has been selected for Para - and he gets paid!!!
I remember the dreams I had when I went to the SLC course in cold lake back in 77. That $100 was going to pay for a car. Of course, because they paid it in increments, I spent all the advances and ended up going home with only the final $60. You couldn't buy a car for $60, so the bike had to suffice for another year.
That was a tough summers go for $100, and a lot of the principles they tried to teach really didn't sink in to a 15 year old kid. When I took my JLC with the regular army in Wainwright 12 years later, a lot of it clicked in to place, and I was able to top that course.
The cadet you speak of was Bancroft Clarke from 2551 Cadet Corps in Edmonton. He was a staff cadet in Banff in the summer of 1983, a very hot summer as far as the weather went. On a particularly hot day he went for a climb to Cascade Falls climbed down and jumped in the pond behind the camp, the cold water was a shock to his system and he cramped up and drowned. A very sad accident, he was close friends with my younger brother from their summers in Vernon as well as Banff, they were staff together. Im delighted to see interest in the army cadet history web site. Please free to ask any questions here, Ill answer them as best as I can.
History & Heritage Committee, Army Cadet League of Canada
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Reading this just sent a chill up my spine, I climbed to that very spot on Cascade mountain on Cascade falls. Myself and a summer cadet girlfriend (ahhh, summer cadet girlfriends) climbed up to that spot and swam in the pool (it was a spot on the mountain that after 100's of years of falling water carved a pool out of the rock). Yes it was unbelivable cold as it came right from the glacier on Cascade mountain and it was usually around +30 in the summer so I could see why he went into shock. I have a picture somewhere of the both of us up there, you could overlook the entire camp and see the townsite. I was in Banff in October and its all gone now.
Yes thats true, also In my cadet corps of 2836 1CER Edmonton, We have a CI named Vansoest, who went to Vernon and was a cadet from 1975-1979, and he knew a cadet from 2551 who had died in 1981 named Taras Bolin, which he was killed accidently as well. CI Vansoest was very good friends with Taras. He was deeply shocked to hear what happened to him. I beleive he taught Taras Bolin at Vernon in 1978, when Taras bolin was a basic.
Did you attend Banff in 1981 or 1982. I can't remember the exact year, but there was a guy we called aresenault in our cabin. I remember the first outing we did by hiking up the side of Mount Norquay. Was that you?
Interesting to see those cadets that joined the Army
April 14 2005, 5:56 AM
I have my Infantry Sigs course photo and its interesting to see who went on to join the Army, similarly with some of the cadets from my Baff group. At least one cadet rose to Colonel in the Armoured Corps. One wonders just how many cadets do go on to join the military.
Re: Interesting to see those cadets that joined the Army
April 14 2005, 7:46 AM
I believe that the whole idea of Cadets was to provide feedstock for the Navy/Army/Air Force.
For sure, the Royal Canadian Air Cadets was formed in 1941 for exactly that purpose.
Also, the Army Cadet motto, "Acer Acerpori" is loosely translated from the Latin as: "As the sapling is bent, so grows the maple", meaning from the sapling (cadet) will result in the maple (soldier).
Course pictures...I have one from 1958 of Corporal Instructors at Ipperwash. Some familiar names come to mind of that group who rose to reasonably high NCO/Officer ranks. Some are retired...Jeez, they must be gettin' old!
The purpose of the Cadet program is as you stated - feedstock for the Armed Forces of Canada which is why so much time and effort and funds was spent on the program.
The two Corps I was in during high school recruited the officers and NCOs and taught them all winter. In the Spring, all the male students in grades 9 and 10 were compulsorarily enrolled, issued uniforms and drilled weekly until the annual inspection by Central Command Cadet staff. Fortunately, there were only a few drill movements to be learned - get on parade, advance in review order and general salute, inspection and dismassal. Based on the number of cadets on parade on that day, the funds for the next year's operation would be set.
I was in the 2870 Ottawa Service Battalion Cadet Corps. I joined on October 22nd, 1978 and left in the spring of 1981 having attained the rank of Regimental Sergeant Major. I spent three wonderful summers in Ipperwash and one in Borden. I also attended a cadet exchange with the British Cadets.
I hope to hear from others who were Army Cadets of the RCOC.
I was in the 1882 Wellington Rifle Reg't (Guelph, ON) at the time and attended Band training at Ipper'Nam for the summer of '85. Plenty of fond memories. I swiped a pillow case from our barracks and made a commemorative 'flag' of sorts which everyone in my section signed. In fact Chris, your name is front and centre including the caption 'see you in the next WWIII'! lol Bunch of little killers, we were!
Yes, we weren't exactly little angels by any means...."lol" but we were young,proud and willing to do our bit for Queen and Country...in the 1980's! Ya, I really thought back then, I'd end up in uniform as a professional soldier in some Commonwealth Regt sooner or later
ahh well...fond memories...and Summer time romances.
I'm not quite sure cadets are feedstock for the CAF. They should be, and in many respects are, yet DND does not actively solicit cadets, in fact quite the opposite. Recruiting centres will not pursue cadets. An aside: recruiters are quite often 'shown off the property' by activist students at career fairs at colleges and universities. I've seen it an it "ain't" a pretty sight. There is a strict set of rules for recruiters at such events and, bottom line, they retreat (for good reason) before confrontational belligerent 'anti' CF/military types.
Bruce, normally I would agree with your comment but this past week I was in Regina and took advantage of the business trip to visit the Saskatchewan Military Museum. This museum is housed in the Regina Armouries and, plastered on their front door, was a sign saying "Cadets - Join the Militia while remaining a cadet". The requirements were; age 16, etc.. and the come-on included the $8,000 in post-secondary bursaries available to Reservists.
With the Militia increasingly supporting the Regs they need more and more recruits to meet ther numbers. Cadets are a natural 'pool' as they show the interest.
I was with the army cadets in Grande Prairie Alberta (49th Loyal Edmonton Regiment)1969-70. My most vivid memory was winter camping when it was -30F. You learn that an $8.00 Simpsons Sears sleeping bag with a wool blanket for a liner is not quite the ideal gear for that situation. It was the first time in my life I stayed awake all night.
I attended Banff in 1982 (if I recall the year correctly) - went on to join the British army 2 years later and saw active service with the Queens regiment. Cadets were definitely a guiding influence to my decisions.
Many Canadian Army cadets had exchanges with the British Army Cadet Corps in Canada or the U.K., and a few even joined the British Army or Royal Marines in those days as well,due to British military influence etc,. as I do remember a few of the lads tellin' me when they were of age, they would apply to the CF (Canadian Forces or British Military.)in the early 1980's.
There were many reasons the Canadian Military looked inviting to Cadets after they finished their term. My father joined the Sea Cadets when he was very young because he was interested in their Bugle band. When he turned 16 he was immediately recruited by the QORofC for their Bugle band. He was not so much interested in the Military life as he was in the band. Now this was back in 1924 and he spent 30 years in the QOR bugle band and was it's Bugle Major from 1939 to 1954. While his primary interest was the band, military training was part of the venture which later involved participation in WW2. I do remember when I was in school back in the 40's some high schools had a cadet program in some cases it was forced participation because the school received so much per head and they could always use the money. Not much interest in military life by those forced to take part I would say.