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Photo of soldier with medal....

December 13 2013 at 2:07 PM
Jo Garnier 

Hello gentlemen,a question for those with the knowledge.....When a canadian officer or soldier was awarded a medal,either a DSO, an MC, a DCM, or a MM....was there always a picture taken of the ceremony, let say at Buckhingham Palace, whether with the King or just after and, where can I find this photograph in the canadian archives.

Thanks for your help


Jo

 
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Anonymous

Re: Photo of soldier with medal....

December 14 2013, 6:28 AM 

Funny you ask this Jo. I was going to ask the same question, sort of. I have a man in my collection. James Rycroft. He was awarded the D.C.M. and M.M. but seems to have disappeared. I can't find a photo of him anywhere. I had a devil of a time even finding his burial place (even though I had the cemetery, section and lot number). His marker was buried under about 5 inches of earth at the top of the stone, and only a very little corner sticking out of the bottom.

All that has been corrected. His new marker stands proudly in the cemetery, as it all should.

 
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Clifford S. Weirmeir

dang it all

December 14 2013, 6:29 AM 

the above post was me, I am not anonymous

 
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Clive M. Law - Service Publications

Photos of presentations

December 14 2013, 10:45 AM 

If you know the date of the presentation then you can often find a photo at LAC. Remember that very few presentations were done at the Palace and these were usually VCs. I have had success in finding a few of these 'field' presentations.
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Clive M. Law - Service Publications

Another

December 14 2013, 10:47 AM 

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Jo Garnier

Photo....

December 14 2013, 12:32 PM 

Hi Clive......In my case,I'm researching a FMR soldier who won an MM for escaping afetr being taken prisonner at Dieppe. He received it in 1943 so, that's why I thought he may have had a ceremony at the Palace like Corporal Alfred Daoust MM of the FMR and Sergeant E.L.Dixon MM of the Essex Scottish, on 27 October 1942,see Nac Mikan No.3592417.......so is it possible that the one I'm looking for, got his at the same time or on a different day...???? .

Thanks

Jo

 
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Michael Dorosh

Interesting photo

December 14 2013, 1:04 PM 

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Like many brigadiers he still wears his former regimental kit; in this case adding black buttons to his gorget patches and a black leather chinstrap to his forage cap. The red lanyard and shoulder badges suggest a former Regina Rifles officer. The coloured bar identifies him positively as commanding the 7th Canadian Brigade.

Nice colour photo showing the blanco on the web belt, also.


 
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Jo Garnier

Photo.....

December 14 2013, 2:06 PM 

If I'm not mistaken this Brigadier John Godfrey Spragge,OBE,DSO, former CO of the QOR on D-Day....He took over 7th Brigade from Harry Foster......when he took command of 4th CAD in September 1944.

Jo

 
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Dan Martel

Brigadier John Godfrey Spragge, DSO, OBE, late QOR of C

December 14 2013, 2:12 PM 

It took a while for me to identify, but the brigadier is Jock Spragge. He was a pre-war militiaman enlisting as a private (rifleman) in 1925. He became a brigadier at age 37; not the youngest, but still young for the rank. He won the DSO for his actions as CO of the QOR on D-Day and in the ensuing combat. His OBE was awarded for his time as CO of his battalion and periods as acting brigade commander prior to the invasion.

I couldn't find the date of his investiture. Nor could I find anything about what happened to him after the war.

Cheers,
Dan.


Royal Winnipeg Rifles Captain at left, Brigadier Spragge on right

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Dan Martel

Damn, Beat by 6 Minutes!

December 14 2013, 2:13 PM 

ntxt.

 
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Michael Dorosh

Excellent

December 15 2013, 8:07 AM 

Thanks for the correction; my lanyard trivia is obviously not up to snuff.


 
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Dan Martel

CSM William David Davidson, MM, PPCLI

December 14 2013, 4:34 PM 

I'm making a guess here, but I think the PPCLI CSM receiving the decoration is WD Davidson receiving his Military Medal. All of I've been able to find out about him is that he was a sergeant when the action took place for which the award was given. That, and he was from Texas.

He died on May 25, 1944, two days after the disastrous PPCLI attack during the Liri Valley campaign. He may have died of wounds received during the attack.

I have no idea of the name of the officer in plus-fours giving out the decoration. Looking at the hem of his tunic, his tailor should be shot.

The guy on the left with the walrus mustache is Chris Vokes, GOC of the 1st Infantry Division at the time of the investiture.

Cheers,
Dan.

 
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Jo Garnier

Photo.....

December 14 2013, 8:47 PM 

The "hired help" awarding the medal is Sir Oliver Leese,was to succeed Montgomery as Eighth Army commander as Montgomery was to return to the UK in January 1944 to prepare for the Allied invasion of Normandy. Leese commanded the Eighth Army at the fourth and final Battle of Monte Cassino in May 1944.
If I'mm mistaken,the type of pants he's wearing were called "plus-four" and were very popular in the early 30s....

Jo

 
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Ed Storey

Photo Details

December 15 2013, 4:59 AM 

You gotta admire the DR in the background who is standing around admiring the event without any headdress on!

 
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David Tremain

Plus Fours

March 10 2014, 9:32 AM 

Sir Oliver Leese was ex-Guards (Grenadier, I think) and was later Slim's Commanding Officer for a while in India/Burma. In the most recent biography of Slim it mentions Leese wearing plus fours. Apparently he was a real martinet. He and Slim had a falling out resulting in Slim's resignation (although he was reinstated later).

 
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Jo Garnier

Photo.....and Davidson...

December 16 2013, 12:01 PM 

DAVIDSON, William David, Sergeant (Acting Warrant Officer Class II, Company Sergeant-Major) (P.21454 - Military Medal (Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry) - Infantry - awarded as per Canada Gazette dated 18 March 1944 and CARO/4296 dated 1 April 1944, "in recognition of gallant and distinguished services in Italy". Action for immediate award initiated by Lieutenant-Colonel C.B. Ware, Commanding Officer, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry; approved by Lieutenant-Colonel J.C. Jefferson, Temporary Commander, 2 Canadian Infantry Brigade on 10 January 1944 and passed forward on 11 January 1944; approved by Major-General Chris Vokes, General Officer Commanding, 1 Canadian Division on 12 June 1944 and passed forward on 16 June 1944; approved by Lieutenant-General C.W. Allfrey, Commander, 5 British Corps on 17 January 1944 and passed forward on 19 January 1944; approved by Lieutenant-General O.W.L. Leese, General Officer Commanding, Eighth Army on 21 January 1944 and passed forward on 25 January 1944; approved by General H.R. Alexander, General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, 15 Army Group on 26 January 1944 and passed for action on 1 March 1944.

On 6 December 1943, the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry attacked and captured the town of Val Roatti (Map Reference 320097). On consolidation, "B" Company was allotted the defense of the north-east corner of the town.

10 Platoon was in a forward position on the right flank. Company Headquarters was approximately 150 yards to the rear of 10 Platoon and the only approach was by a narrow open unhedged track. At 1345 hours the enemy attacked this position with tanks. Due to this and previous fighting, 10 Platoon's supply of ammunition was almost exhausted. Knowing this, Company Sergeant-Major Davidson, carrying all available .303 bandoliers, ran down the track to 10 Platoon's position. At that time the track was under fire from three tanks and direct machine gun and rifle fire about 100 yards distant. In addition the track was under heavy mortar fire. Having delivered his ammunition and realizing that further supplies were essential, Company Sergeant-Major Davidson made his way back over the same route and to another company area for more ammunition. With another load of .303 bandoliers, he made his way back to 10 Platoon's area again by the same route and subject to the same fire. By bringing this ammunition forward Company Sergeant-Major Davidson enabled 10 Platoon to hold its position which was vital in the plan of Battalion defence. Company Sergeant-Major Davidson, in exposing himself to the very heavy enemy fire, showed an utter disregard for personal safety and displayed an infectious coolness which encouraged all who saw him.

CSM Davidson was killed in action on 25/05/44 and he is buried at the Cassino War Cemetery.Son of William Davidson, and of Emily Kate Netterville Davidson, of Denton, Texas, U.S.A.

 
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Dan Martel

Good Find

December 17 2013, 1:46 PM 

Excellent info. You found more than I could. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
Dan.

 
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Clive M. Law - Service Publications

Source

December 17 2013, 2:56 PM 

With the exception of the last line I suspect this came from "Courage & Service" by Blatherwick and Halliday. Nice when sources are cited.

 
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Jo Garnier

Sorry Clive......

December 17 2013, 3:31 PM 

I'm extremely sorry Clive as I have the above information only on a CD, and not the printed info sheet. I DO NOT usually use the information on the internet or anywhere else but, I missed the boat on this one........again sorry Clive.

Jo

 
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Clive M. Law - Service Publications

CD

December 17 2013, 4:44 PM 

Jo, Are you saying you have a CD with the data but it doesn't have any printing on the CD? Sounds like a pirate copy. I produced these and every copy sold had the face of the CD printed in order to identify it.

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