Hi David
Here is a link (written by an expert) to tapering off drugs such as zoloft.
http://www.ssri-uksupport.com/files/haltingSSRIs.pdf>
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HALTING SSRIs
SSRIs
SSRI stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. This does not mean these drugs are
selective to the serotonin system or that they are in some sense pharmacologically clean. It
means they have little effects on the norepinephrine/noradrenaline system. There are 8 SSRIs
on the market:
US Trade Name UK Trade Name
Fluoxetine Prozac Prozac
Paroxetine Paxil Seroxat
Sertraline Zoloft Lustral
Citalopram Celexa Cipramil
Escitalopram Lexapro Cipralex
Fluvoxamine Luvox Faverin
Venlafaxine Efexor Effexor
Duloxetine Cymbalta Cymbalta
Venlafaxine in doses up to 150mg is an SSRI. Over 150 mg it also inhibits noradrenaline
reuptake as does Duloxetine.
WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
SSRI withdrawal symptoms break down into two groups.
The first group may be unlike anything you have had before:
Dizziness when I turn to look at something I feel my head lags behind.
Electric Head - which includes a number of strange brain sensations
its almost like the brain is having a version of goose pimples.
Electric Shock-like Sensations - Zaps
Other Strange Tingling or Painful Sensations
Nausea, Diarrhoea, Flatulence
Headache
Muscle Spasms/ Tremor
Dreams, including Agitated Dreams or other Vivid Dreams
Agitation
Hallucinations or other visual or auditory disturbances
The second group are symptoms which may lead you or your physician to think that all you
have are features of your original problem. These include:
Depression and Anxiety these are the commonest two withdrawal symptoms
Labile Mood emotions swinging wildly
Irritability
Confusion
Fatigue/ Malaise Flu-like Feelings
Insomnia or Drowsiness
Sweating
Feelings of Unreality
Feelings of being Hot or Cold
Change of Personality
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IS THIS WITHDRAWAL?
There are three ways to distinguish SSRI withdrawal from the nervous problems that the SSRI
might have been used to treat in the first instance.
First if the problem begins immediately on reducing or halting a dose or begins within hours
or days or perhaps even weeks of so doing then it is more likely to be a withdrawal problem.
If the original problem has been treated and you are doing well, then on discontinuing
treatment no new problems should show up for several months or indeed several years.
Second if the nervousness or other odd feelings that appear on reducing or halting the SSRI
(sometimes after just missing a single dose) clear up when you are put back on the SSRI or
the dose is put back up, then this also points towards a withdrawal problem rather than a
return of the original illness. When original illnesses return, they take a long time to respond
to treatment. The relatively immediate response of symptoms on discontinuation to the
reinstitution of treatment points towards a withdrawal problem.
Third the features of withdrawal may overlap with features of the nervous problem for which
you were first treated - both may contain elements of anxiety and of depression. However
withdrawal will also often contain new features not in the original state such as pins and
needles, tingling sensations, electric shock sensations, pain and a general flu-like feeling.
Before starting to withdraw, it should be noted that many people will have no problems on
withdrawing. Some will have minimal problems, which may peak after a few days before
diminishing. Symptoms can remain for some weeks or months. Others will have greater
problems, which can be helped by the management plan outlined below.
Finally however there will be a group of people who are simply unable to stop whatever
approach they take. Some others will be able to stop but will find problems persisting for
months or years afterwards. It is important to recognise this latter possibility in order to avoid
punishing yourself. Specialist help may make a difference for some people in these two
groups, if only to provide possible antidotes to attenuate the problems of ongoing SSRIs such
as loss of libido.
HOW TO WITHDRAW
If there are any hints of problems on withdrawal from SSRIs, the management of withdrawal
is something to be done in consultation with your physician. You may wish to show this to
your doctor. Over-rapid withdrawal may be medically hazardous, particularly in older
persons.
1(a) Convert the dose of SSRI you are on to an equivalent dose of Prozac liquid.
Seroxat/Paxil 20mg, Efexor 75mg, Cipramil/Celexa 20mgs, Lustral/Zoloft 50mgs are
equivalent to 20mg of Prozac liquid. Or 40 mg of Paxil/Seroxat to 40 mg Prozac. The
rationale for this is that Prozac has a very long half-life, which helps to minimise withdrawal
problems. The liquid form permits the dose to be reduced more slowly than can be done with
pills.
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Some people may become agitated on switching from Paxil/Seroxat to fluoxetine in which
case one option is take a short course of diazepam until this settles down. Whether this
agitation is caused by fluoxetine or because for some people the substitution simply cannot be
made may be difficult to determine. If the agitation gets better when the dose of fluoxetine is
reduced then it is more likely to be caused by fluoxetine, if it gets worse, then it is more likely
to be linked to withdrawal.
1(b) A further option is to convert to a liquid form of whatever drug you are on. Many
people cannot change easily from Paxil tablets to fluoxetine and switching to Paxil liquid may
do the trick instead.
1(c) Yet another option is to change from Paxil/Seroxat to a mixture of half the previous dose
in the form of Paxil/Seroxat and the other half in the form of fluoxetine, and then to reduce
the dose of Paxil/Seroxat gradually.
1(d) An alternative is to change to Clomipramine (Anafranil)100mgs per day. This comes in
25mg and 10mgs capsules, permitting a more gradual dose reduction than with other SSRIs.
The 10mg capsules can be opened up and part of the contents emptied out permitting a
gradual lowering of the dose.
2 Stabilise on one of these options for up to 4 weeks before proceeding.
3 For uncomplicated withdrawal, it may be possible to then drop the dose by a quarter.
4 If there has been no problem with step 2, a week or two later, the dose can be reduced to
half of the original.
Alternatively if there has been a problem with the original drop, the dose should be reduced
by 1 mg amounts in weekly or two weekly decrements.
5 From a dose of fluoxetine 10mgs liquid or Anafranil 10mg, consider reducing by 1mg
every week over the course of several weeks - or months if need be. With fluoxetine liquid
this can be done by dilution.
6 If there are difficulties at any particular stage the answer is to wait at that stage for a
longer period of time before reducing further.
7 If there were problems switching to fluoxetine at a 20mg level, it might be possible to do
so, when the dose of Paxil/Seroxat reduces to the 10mg level.
8 Donepezil has appeared to be helpful in some cases of difficult withdrawal.
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COMPLEXITIES OF WITHDRAWAL
Some people are extremely sensitive to withdrawal effects. If there are problems with
step 1 above, return to the original dose and from there reduce as tolerated.
Withdrawal and dependence are physical phenomena. But some people can get
understandably phobic about withdrawal particularly if the experience is literally
shocking. If you think you have become phobic, a clinical psychologist or nurse
therapist may be able to help manage any phobic element.
Self-help support groups can be invaluable. Join one. If there is none nearby,
consider setting one up. There will be lots of others with a similar problem.
For self-help groups, it is important to recognise that SSRI withdrawal may not
simply be a rerun of the benzodiazepine problem. With benzodiazepines it was
feasible to switch from a shorter acting to a longer acting compound, because
essentially these drugs all came from the same family group. This is not the case with
the SSRIs, which are all quite different drugs.
There are some grounds to believe that another option is to substitute St Johns Wort
for the SSRI. If a dose of 3 tablets of St Johns Wort is tolerated instead of the SSRI,
this can then be reduced slowly by one pill per fortnight or even per month or by
halving tablets.
Some people for understandable reasons may prefer this approach. But it needs to be
noted that St Johns Wort has its own set of problems and you may wish to consult
your physician if this is the option you choose.
There are likely to be dietary factors that may help or hinder. Some SSRIs affect
blood sugar levels, others raise blood lipid levels. This may explain why snacking or
grazing seems to be useful for some patients, and taking sugary drinks useful for
others. Caffeine or any other foods that can make you more nervous or stimulated
should be avoided during this period.
Finally, if there are significant problems on withdrawal, it would be helpful to get
your physician to write to the company making the drug you have had problems with.
It is possible that these companies, recognising the problem, have already done
research on withdrawal strategies, and might be able to offer strategies or point to
other strategies they are aware of.
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If it seems impossible to withdraw and the option is to stabilise on an SSRI for the
foreseeable future, at this point there is no clear indicator as to whether there is a best
SSRI to stabilise on. In terms of ongoing problems though, Paxil/Seroxat, Efexor and
Zoloft appear to be associated with the greatest frequency of problems on withdrawal
and it would seem on this basis should not be thought of as fall-back options.
Fluoxetine is associated with proportionally the greatest frequency of reports of drug
seeking or addictive behaviours, and is problematic from this point of view. Zoloft
is linked to a very high of emotional difficulties on withdrawal. By default this leaves
citalopram as a fallback option.
FOLLOW-UP
In the United States, companies have tried to label withdrawal problems as
discontinuation problems or discontinuation syndromes, because of the negative
perceptions linked to the term withdrawal. The use of the word discontinuation in this
way is not allowed in Britain for instance.
The problems posed by withdrawal may stabilise to the point where you can get on
with life. But whether it is or is not possible to withdraw, it is important to note
ongoing problems and to get your physician or someone to report them if possible to
the appropriate bodies such as the FDA/CSM. New health problems such as
diabetes or raised blood lipid levels may have a link to prior or ongoing treatment.
There are clear effects on the heart from SSRIs and from some there are likely to be
cardiac problems during the post-withdrawal period. Such problems if they occur
should be noted and recorded.
SSRIs are well-known to impair sexual functioning. The conventional view has been
that once the drug is stopped, functioning comes back to normal. There are indicators
however that this may not be true for everyone. If sexual functioning remains
abnormal, this should be brought to the attention of your physician, who will
hopefully report it.
Withdrawal may reveal other continuing problems, similar to the ongoing sexual
dysfunction problem, such as memory or other problems. It is important to report
these. The best way to find a remedy is to bring the problem to the attention of as
many people as possible.
Reproduced April 2006 by kind permission of Author "
David, we can't advise - we're not GP's, but it may be worth considering this line:
"...6 If there are difficulties at any particular stage the answer is to wait at that stage for a
longer period of time before reducing further..."
if for instance you were OK until you stopped the LAST level you were on?
The lowest level - were you OK until then?
Cutting down SSRIs every other day can cause problems on its own, and its considered better to cut down bit by bit without adding the risk of your body being plunged into 'cold turkey' by removing it altogether every other day, ie, stick to cutting down slowly, so that your body gets used to the reduction.
Hope the above helps a bit?
