midget hockey, late in the game, out of hand, 7-1 for your team. 3 minutes left in the 3rd and you are on a power play. delayed penalty called against the other team.
do you wave and yell at your goalie to hurry off and get that extra attacker out?

"midget hockey, late in the game, out of hand, 7-1 for your team. 3 minutes left in the 3rd and you are on a power play. delayed penalty called against the other team.
do you wave and yell at your goalie to hurry off and get that extra attacker out?"

Unless you're in a tourney where goal differential is important, I would say pulling the goalie in a 7-1 game while already on the power play is a pretty dick-ish move.

Just my opinion though.

Good answer above.

Unless I needed the goals as stated in a tourney or similar, I would not make an attempt to run up the score further.

normally when on the Power Play and another penalty is going to be called I am yelling at my players to give the other team the puck to maximize that amount of time that we are two men up. In this case I am playing keep away killing the clock as much as possible, without embarrassing my opponnets.



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The Diceman

The delayed penalty drill is for your keeper to leave the net for the extra attacker.
Period.
The scoreboard has nothing to do with how your team is conditioned to react to game situations.
The opposing team drew the penalty. They deal with the consequences, not you.

JAD

I agree with JAD. Practice in game situations is key...especially for the keeper. So the other team had hurt feelings...big deal. They committed the infraction.

The Leafs are in first place in their division and I agree with JAD - Harold Ballard and the Devil himself MUST be playing shinny as we speak!

There is a time to practice good sportsmenship as well, and this is one of those times. Keep the goalie in and delay the call until as long as possible as the team will now be down two players.



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The Diceman

it was league play, goals don't matter
i'm sure the kids on the losing team didn't even notice. they're feelings weren't hurt. i don't even think any other parents noticed. the question really doesn't have anything to do with the feelings of that team, or if they "deserved" it, rather what you would do as a coach? some people here think the practice and working on plays is the most important thing to teach in this situation, some believe teaching some sportsmanship skills is the more important thing to coach.

a couple years ago a team playing against my kids' and was up by 5 with a minute to go. they pulled their goalie (and scored). afterwards the coach explained to our coach (who was livid) that since the outcome was not in doubt anyway, he was using the opportunity to practice this in case they were down a goal. he explained that it wasn't "piling it on", just good coaching to use any opportunity to hone their skills. he thought it strange that our coach would be mad because the the outcome didn't change and both teams had the opportunity to practice something that may come up in the future.

for the record, i hope my daughter always plays for a coach that puts sportsmanship and winning-with-grace above teaching the perfect power play

There is plenty of opportunity during the season to practice all circumstances....in the scenario above the coach decided to practice a extra attacker drill when up 5 goals. That is not effective practices as there was nothing to lose. That is not mimicking circumstances.

I have practiced the extra attacker drill while up a goal and not just at the end of the game, but the end of a period. I would never practice this while up 5 goals. I also practice these type of circumstances at practices and many times 6 on 4, 5on 4, 5 on 3 and 6 on 3. Faceoff alignment when in the offense zone and defensive zone during these situations. Teach rotation while killing penalties when down one and down two. If the offensive team is using the umbrella then there is no need to be playing a box when down one many. Teach players to think and react to what they see.

I have seen many practices where a coach is practicing break out drills without a forecheck to pressure the breakout. What are they practicing?

Practice is called practices for a reason......practice game situations during practices and have your players bring what they learned at practiced to the games.

Hockey players should learn more then just hockey skills by being part of a team. They should learn....life skills. Embarrassing your opponent is not a life lesson that should be taught!



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The Diceman

Having coached on both sides I think our younger years lesson about sportsmanship focuses more on the less competitive side of things. This is a tough situation for all involved. If you pull in the reigns so to speak sure the score looks better, but I can tell you from experience that if it looks suspect in the least the kids at the higher levels know they're being toyed with and many will view that as a bigger lack of respect. Ultimately it boils down to individual feeling on the subject and that usually means its a no win situation.

Not pulling your goalie on a delayed penalty when all ready on the power play.....would not be seen as being toyed with.

Over the years I have developed many strategies to keep the score respectable without embarrassing another team nor toy with them which in my opinion is worse.

The question was would you pull your goalie on a delayed penalty call when you are already up by 5 goals and currently on the power play.

I would be yelling to my players to keep the puck.....which normally I would be telling them to give the puck to the other team thereby maximizing the amount of time playing two men up. My goalie if he/she came to the bench I simply would not replace with an additional skater. Usually the goalie would already understand that I did not want them to come to the bench.

Strategies I have used to keep the score down:

1)Keep the clock running by eliminating faceoffs as much as possible....shortens the game and limits scoring opportunities. I ask my goalie to come out and stop the puck before it goes for icing and set it up for the defenceman to come back and get it.

2) have my team dump the puck in and play a 1-2-2 shallow with the object of trying to make their opponent to turn the puck over between offensive blue-line and center ice, then you can go on the attack. This comes in handy when protecting one goal leads late in a game. This limits offensive chances and is not obvious to the other team as you still are competing hard.

3) I use the 3rd line to start the power play along with 5-6 defensive pairing. Keep them out for most of the powerplay.

4) Work on difference breakouts that we have practiced in practice but not our most game used one.

There is more but it depends on the game and the circumstances.

I never move forwards back to play defense or defense up to forward, nor do I have a minimum number of passes rules before shooting....



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The Diceman