Hey, blkshadow91 - I have been reading this board forever and a day now. Since you feel so obliged to call every other driver names and threaten them, I would like to say to you that you have alot of balls talking about other drivers racing styles. I used to feel sorry for the 402 being such a homespun team working his but off to get where he his, but now I just feel pity for him that he has to deal with a person like you wreaking havoc upon their good name. I can't even stand to watch him because, all I can think about is how his relatives are so contradicting about what it takes to be a good driver. You know something, your team is not the only team that has to work night and day and spend every last penny to get his or her car to the track. They all do it. GET OVER YOURSELF - WHO DIED AND LEFT YOU THE ALMIGHTY KNOW IT ALL? IF YOU PUT HALF AS MUCH ENERGY INTO YOUR TEAM AS DO EVERYONE ELSES BUSINESS YOU GUYS WOULD WIN EVERY RACE BECAUSE YOUR MOUTH IS JUST NONSTOP.

SO BRING IT ON BABY - BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just know that as i am writing this response i cannot control my laughter...people like you never cease to amaze me....your probably one of the morons who posts about what who is doing with who and who is the girl who is hanging with so and so or let me guess you are one of jelly's fans....give me a break, this has got to be the funniest post I have ever read in my entire life!!! Number one you obviously most be a complete idiot because every one of my posts says that I know that the 402 team is not the only team to work day and night to get there car there and that I KNOW there are alot of people in a situation like ours so before you run your mouth and look like a complete jackass, get the facts straight!!! number two..i could really care less what you think of me or my opinions....THAT IS RIGHT, THIS IS AMERICA I WILL SAY AND DO WHATEVER I WISH...my opinions and my thoughts are exactly that MINE!!! they may or may not be the thoughts of the 402 team or anyone elses so don't assume that it is!!! And if you are so adamant about telling me what you think, PLEASE feel free to come on down and talk to me..i have no qualms about telling you or anyone else my thoughts or feelings and ONE MORE THING Mr. wonderful....if you have been reading this board for forever and a day you would know that I defend many drivers on this board and will defend people like nina who you busy bodies want to bash...you will never see any posts from me, asking who is hanging out with who and what so and so is wearing and who is a slut and who isn't...SO CHECK YOURSELF AND READ THE POSTS BEFORE COMING ON HERE LOOKING LIKE A JACKASS!!!! and as i said i don't care if you like me or you don't, but don't judge other people because of it. and i am sure the 402 team won't cry because you don't watch them race!! i am the first to defend drivers like browe, watson, and everyone who deserves it and i will be the first to say when they are wrong...so like it or move on and get over it...

on re-reading your halarious post you MUST be a jelly family member or fan...because the only driver who i have so called "threatend" as you said is him...that he should have the chip knocked off his shoulder for driving in like a raving lunatic...and how the 44 can't drive and anyone with eyes sees that....he has caused many wrecks...so you know what? being the person I think you are...your opinion doesn't even count and doesn't even justify a response....and i wish we had as much money as I do mouth because we would be in the front at all times...cause i have no problems standing up for who or what i believe in and telling people exactly what i think of them..same as i would expect from anyone else, if you don't like me, don't pretend too, chances are i probably don't like you either...se i hate back stabbers and fake people...so chances are i probably don't like you!!! if saying what i see and stating my opinions is a busy body in your warped little mine then i guess that is what it is, since you are the KING...hail to the KING!!...

Sorry, not exactly a Jelley Fan or Family Member. But, I do think that you care what I say or you wouldn't have posted two responses to my post. I never called you a busy body, and I know Nina as well and think she's an alright person, so no I don't post any on the horrible things that people say about her. I also don't post any of the messages that talk **** about anybody else. I don't throw people under the bus and make them look horrific so that their sponsors and fans have to deal with the issues caused by so many people like YOU who DO insist on bashing people. And futhermore you are mean to more than Jeff Kelly and Wayne Jelley. You talk about back stabbing jackasses, maybe you should look in that mirror a little more and see that you are the same backstabbing JACKASS.

like i said before you can say whatever your little heart desires...i won't lose sleep at night over what you think about me. And as far as anyone who REALLY knows me, they will tell you that I despise backstabbers and two faced people and I have no problem telling you or anyone else to your face what I think...and obviously you were watching the race from the bathroom stall because you were not standing right there on the other side of the damn gate when he came barreling in to pit row or you would have seen the reaction of some pretty irate people...NOW i stayed out of the wayne jelley post that people posted prior to this saying how much they dislike him and what a fat slob he is...NOW personally i don't know him and don't think that calling anyone fat is appropriate and i stayed out of it because i have did not know him or anything about him but I am telling you what was right in front of us and that I had to stop someone from going over there and laying right into him....so please get a life and back off...your feelings about me or anyone else don't matter....i think most everyone at the valley does an excellent job and i know they all try there best, well most all of them.........

Oh well ain't this lovely. Someone is speaking there mind about you, and it happeneds to be a crime, but its ALL ALRIGHT when you start stuff about someone else.

And even if this person happends to be a Jelley fan, so what? There is NOTHING wrong with Jelley, get to know him.

NO SH#T SHERLOCK!!!! WHAT DID I JUST SAY...I DON'T KNOW HIM AND DIDN'T GET INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE POSTS THAT WERE DISSING HIM BAD.....AND LIKE I SAID A MILLION AND ONE TIMES I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR MANY MANY DRIVERS OUT THERE AND ALL OF THEIR PIT CREWS....BUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY OPINIONS THEN DON'T READ THEM....LIKE I SAID I WON'T LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE ME AND I KNOW AS WELL AS EVERYONE ON HERE AND AT THE VALLEY WHO KNOWS ME I DON'T START STUPID LITTLE B.S. LIKE WHO IS THAT GIRL OR WHY WAS SO AND SO TALKING TO HIM...DUH DUH DUH..THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY...GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS SEASON WHEN I RESPONDED TO ONE OF THOSE IGNORANT POSTS..SAYING WHO CARES WHO IS A SLUT AND WHO ISN'T AND WHO IS DOING WHAT WITH WHO...YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOUR LITTLE HEART DESIRES ABOUT ME...IT IS ALL GOOD....

Will you stop talking about Jelley. I am not talking about Jelley - I could CARE LESS ABOUT JELLEY............... I am talking about the way you diss the hell out of the #44 and praise the **** out of the #402. And I have read your posts where you bash people. You may not be discussing the sleeping arrangements of people, but you do talk alot of ****.... About alot of people. You try to post something nice but then you turn right around and drive the knife right in the back.

okay genius...you show me exactly what it is that you are talking about and i will humbly bow down and apologize, because there is nothing that i will not say to your face that i say on this board and have you watched the 44 race?????? have you seen him tick off donnie miller, joe mabb jr, earl thichner???? if not get better glasses!! I will always praise the driver of 402 he tries hard and he never gives up and although my opinion is biased because he is family...others see it to....now lets watch and see who the 44 puts in the wall this week....at least joe doesn't piss everybody off and put a big target on his own ass.....like i said this is america...and i will say what i feel....JELLEY JELLEY JELLEY JELLEY JELLEY

Wow, if someone isn't acting a little bit childish i'm not sure what'd i'd call it.

just proving a point........no shu fly don't bother me......

I'll gladly stick my nose in this one.

Shadow is very opinionated. Without an opinion, there would be absolutely no point in posting on this board. Just like you, me, and everyone else who comes here, she speaks her mind.

What, exactly, is here her crime?

Say what you want about her, but she listens to logic, and admits when she is wrong.

As for her bashing Wayne jelley... how do you figure? She's merely viewed him with clear vision. wayne has gotten to be a nasty bugger ... on the track and in the pits.

Maybe it's because he got screwed out of the championship last year. Maybe he's just a spoiled brat. I haven't talked to him yet this year, so I can't say for sure.

All I know is that, at some point, Wayne started ramming his way through traffic without regard for who he slammed. One only needs to look at what he did to JR and what he did to Tremont last year.

Are you going to tell me that I'm a Wayne hater? Until this season, I was in victory lane with him everytime he won. I have been friends with Butch since I was a boy, and it was the other little brother, Lyle, who was racing. I knew Chuck and JoAnn. I have personal telephone conversations with butch, JoAnn, and Donnie. I almost punched a security guard at the valley for man-handling Mr. Jelley. When Wayne and heather were under attack, I was the first one to run to their defense.

Stop looking through rose colored glasses and blaming others when they speak the truth.

Wayne is a great driver who needs to relax and quit trying to win races on the first lap. If you can't see that, there's no point in you going to the races.

I wish I was wrong. I wish Wayne was as clean as Tremont, and I wish he'd keep costing himself by driving over-the-top.

More than anything ... I wish I didn't have to worry that he'll punch my face in for saying this, rather than realizing that it's coming from someone who only wants better for him.

Regardless of what he does, I will always like Wayne, and I'll always respect his abilities as a driver ... even if he tracks me down and punches me out for what I'm saying.

So ... if you're going to attack Shadow for speaking the truth, you may as well have a go at me as well. I don't bury the truth to make others happy, and I'm not going to sit back and let you attack someone else who does the same.

As for Joe Mabb .... don't feel sorry for him. I don't. It would be nice to see what he'd do in a real car, but, anyone who knows racing can see that the guy has heart and talent.

Even if he never wins a main event, he comes out of it a winner.

Gasketcase,

I agree with your posts. But, please let me make this clear to you as well as shadow. I am not speaking about the posts of Wayne Jelley. As I said in the last post I don't care - I am speaking about the way she blatantly bashes on that new guy Jeff Kelly. Now I will admit that he is a bit rough around the edges, but he has never even been in a modified type car before. Give the guy a little room to get used to the whole thing.

Stop threatening him to no end. Give him some breathing room to learn. How else are we going to have fields of cars to watch if no one new will enter. Just give him some room and a break so he can learn. That is what I am saying.

Futhermore, I don't care what is said about Jelley. Jelley is a big boy and can take care of himself, and I am definetly not going to defend him. Whether you like him or hate him who gives a crap. Just give the new guys a friggin break. Get off their backs. Let them find their groove without constantly attacking them.

Ok who the hell are you to pin point her for putting her opion out there on other drivers. along with u i have been reading this thing for 4ever and a day and i am new on the 402 pit crew. She has just as much as right as u do to post her opion and she does not put all the drivers down. she states what she feels and if u have such a ****ing problem with it then don't read what she writes. plain and simple and if u want to ****ing pick on me bring it on cuz u know what with me on her side bitch u are not going to win. So go find some one else to pick on and we could careless if u watch us race cuz u know we have other fans that adore us and one less person is no sweat off out balls!

If she can say what she likes so can I - And I don't give a **** what team your on. It's going to take alot more too shake me than two little trash talking bitches like yourselves.

Also, I don't need anybody on my side to help defend me. Stand up on your own and fight for what YOU think is right - NUT JOB.

oh my my my...boy oh boy!!! i can't even get the words out to respond to your "fantastic" little post!!! now you are going to resort to name calling!!! Boy oh Boy are you really mature!!! Your posts don't even make me a bit angry it just shows what a child you are!! I will not argue with you or justify my actions to you or anyone else...i don't have to!!! I am here to talk about racing and drivers and to congratulate and to give my opinions....I am not sure who this person is that responded to you...and said they were sticking up for me or anyone else...but i will find out...because they shouldn't of even responded to your nonsense either...just a waste of time!!! Anytime you would like to chat like an adult....man to man...woman to woman...man to woman what have you...feel free to come on down and tell me what trash you think every single white female is at the track....would love to talk to ya....looking forward to seeing you saturday...now you have a great day

OOOOOH No, you scare me so. Talk about childish - Once again, look in the MIRROR little girl.