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Alcor’s Court Case Against Larry Johnson, et al Set for November 4th View Entire Thread - George on Nov 1, 2009, 8:51 PM

Do you suppose that Larry will show up? - Finance Department on Nov 1, 2009, 9:46 PM

Another Round of Publicity - George on Nov 1, 2009, 10:15 PM

I think you exaggerate the impact of LJ's book or any publicity - Finance Department on Nov 1, 2009, 10:53 PM

I have not said anything about impact... - George on Nov 2, 2009, 8:05 AM

Court Hearings - Melody Maxim on Nov 2, 2009, 6:25 AM

Stupid waste of money because... - PhilO on Nov 2, 2009, 9:43 AM

Alcor vs. Johnson and Vanguard Press - Melody Maxim on Nov 3, 2009, 9:45 AM

Thanks for the update - TWrelated on Nov 3, 2009, 3:14 PM

Oh, sorry, figured it out. - TWrelated on Nov 3, 2009, 3:21 PM

The Wheels of (In)Justice - Finance Department on Nov 7, 2009, 10:24 PM

Justice is Slow but Certain... - George on Nov 8, 2009, 12:03 AM

Suspended Animation Inc. View Entire Thread - Robert Ettinger on Nov 5, 2009, 11:13 AM

Well - Paul Michaels on Nov 5, 2009, 3:29 PM

Why a contract? - Ken on Nov 7, 2009, 8:03 PM

why a contract - Robert Ettinger on Nov 7, 2009, 9:44 PM

Very inaccurate - Finance Department on Nov 7, 2009, 9:59 PM

What are "financial challanges" McGee faces at Alcor? View Entire Thread - PhilO on Nov 6, 2009, 11:05 AM

Robotic Automation View Entire Thread - Cf-mod on Nov 4, 2009, 1:58 PM

Even more impressive dexterity - Jordan Sparks on Nov 4, 2009, 5:21 PM

Good point - Cf-mod on Nov 4, 2009, 7:48 PM

Why Bigger Is Better View Entire Thread - Luke Parrish on Oct 31, 2009, 1:46 AM

What do you think of the current Timeship design? - Philo on Oct 31, 2009, 7:51 AM

My main impression... - Luke Parrish on Oct 31, 2009, 3:02 PM

Interesting - sirdanny on Oct 31, 2009, 8:27 AM

Good questions - Luke Parrish on Oct 31, 2009, 1:20 PM

The Big Picture - George on Oct 31, 2009, 2:01 PM

Exactly why... - Luke Parrish on Oct 31, 2009, 2:39 PM

Wow George, you should write a book! - Finance Department on Oct 31, 2009, 9:36 PM

Thanks, FD - George on Oct 31, 2009, 10:34 PM

That's Mega-DOME-Mania - Luke Parrish on Nov 1, 2009, 10:03 AM

Only 3 laws should be enough - Finance Department on Nov 1, 2009, 1:06 PM

ITS - Jordan Sparks on Oct 31, 2009, 12:47 PM

not ! - queensblade on Nov 1, 2009, 2:57 PM

Maybe... - Luke Parrish on Nov 4, 2009, 10:30 AM

Uh... this swine flu business seems to be getting out of hand. View Entire Thread - PhilO on Nov 4, 2009, 7:51 AM

I see sparks just blew in-- Sparks-- cryonics is safer in Oregon with right to die, right? View Entire Thread - PhilO on Oct 26, 2009, 1:19 PM

Plan to retire in oregon and die there-- so cryonics can keep you "down"-- fix your will. - Philo on Oct 26, 2009, 7:24 PM

If alcor knew about having to keep people down once declared dead, why didn't they... - Philo on Oct 26, 2009, 7:26 PM

Sparks disappears-- without so much as a hello. - Philo on Oct 27, 2009, 10:48 AM

Watching - Jordan Sparks on Oct 27, 2009, 2:26 PM

You can increase the quality by contributing. - Philo on Oct 27, 2009, 3:18 PM

I have a secret project too, Sparks-- involving neurons-- an NOT you. - Philo on Oct 27, 2009, 7:11 PM

Sparks underplays his operation. - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 10:56 AM

IIRC, - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 12:11 PM

Because - Jordan Sparks on Oct 30, 2009, 12:15 PM

An example - Jordan Sparks on Oct 30, 2009, 12:57 PM

Problems with that explanation. - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 4:47 PM

Why did dewolfs move to OR? - PhilO on Nov 2, 2009, 10:41 AM

Where would you want to live? - Jordan Sparks on Nov 2, 2009, 12:05 PM

What a coincidence-- that THAT nice state HAPPENS to have legal euthanasia! - PhilO on Nov 2, 2009, 12:50 PM

2nd answer-- Near a cryonics lab? - PhilO on Nov 2, 2009, 1:41 PM

3. Redirect attention back to MY point-- Witness DeWolf on this issue, Sparks. - PhilO on Nov 3, 2009, 9:38 AM

I just signed a 5 page non-disclosure agreement with... View Entire Thread - PhilO on Nov 2, 2009, 6:11 PM

My living will conflicts with post pronouncement putdown policy. View Entire Thread - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 11:33 AM

Your Living Will should stipulate ... - Finance Department on Oct 28, 2009, 3:46 PM

It says don't remove post mortem life support until Alcor arrives. - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 4:19 PM

"Post mortem life support" (oxymoron of the month) - Finance Department on Oct 28, 2009, 5:49 PM

But the point is what if I'm dead before Alcor gets to me? ... .then I need.... - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 5:54 PM

I'm wrong-- my bracelet says if I'm dead, continue CPR and cool me and inject me with... - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 7:04 PM

Maintaining death-state IS a problem for cryonics... - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 8:06 AM

So... let the non-full-recovery people die? ... only save fully recoverable people? - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 8:42 AM

it's not pretty - Cf-mod on Oct 29, 2009, 9:04 AM

Well then let's MAKE it prettier. - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 9:34 AM

I don't know about that - Cf-mod on Oct 29, 2009, 12:20 PM

It's not complicated, it's not individual choice-- it's universal principle. - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 12:27 PM

New business opportunity in extreme life support technology - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 1:52 PM

Brain support vs. life support - Luke Parrish on Oct 30, 2009, 7:50 PM

Not accepted. - Philo on Oct 31, 2009, 1:07 AM

Why? - Luke Parrish on Oct 31, 2009, 2:33 PM

Cryonics is a LAST ditch effort AFTER.... - PhilO on Nov 1, 2009, 11:48 AM

Maybe straight freez - Basie on Nov 1, 2009, 3:05 PM

Re: Cryonics is a LAST ditch effort AFTER.... - Luke Parrish on Nov 2, 2009, 10:47 AM

FD's idea of med clinic with cryo becomes more interesting if... - PhilO on Nov 1, 2009, 11:59 AM

Sloppy Patent Work - Critical Care Research View Entire Thread - Melody Maxim on Nov 2, 2009, 8:20 AM

"Extensive Canine Experiments" - Melody Maxim on Nov 2, 2009, 8:30 AM

What suppliements DO you take , Mark, and what is your fiteness strategy? View Entire Thread - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 2:47 PM

Re: What suppliements DO you take , Mark, and what is your fiteness strategy? - Mark Plus on Oct 31, 2009, 1:53 AM

comments for Mark - Robert Ettinger on Oct 31, 2009, 10:50 PM

My experience with supplements - George on Nov 1, 2009, 7:08 PM

so you don't believe the sex-related enhancers work either? - Philo on Oct 31, 2009, 9:28 AM

FD--> No such thing as "over population"-- just "under technology"-- View Entire Thread - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 10:20 AM

You totally misrepresent my view - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 12:14 PM

I guess you wouldn't like Objectivist "myriad cities." - Mark Plus on Oct 30, 2009, 1:28 PM

what's the transportation system consist of Mark ? - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 1:58 PM

Deliver us, O Lord, - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 3:01 PM

Progress is directly dependent on increase population density. - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 1:29 PM

We don't need more people to do any of that - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 2:59 PM

Increased population is an end in and of itself-- besides generating higher progress. - Philo on Oct 30, 2009, 3:25 PM

Another possible advantage in Oregon for cryonics? View Entire Thread - Mark Plus on Oct 27, 2009, 9:03 PM

I'll see you in Oregon, then. - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 12:49 AM

I'm in Oregon now too - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 1:20 AM

Ok oregon it is. - Philo on Oct 28, 2009, 1:36 AM

As someone who has lived in Oregon for over 50 years... - A. Selene on Oct 28, 2009, 2:53 PM

Really that big a problem? - Finance Department on Oct 28, 2009, 3:15 PM

Well, it would certainly be different... - A. Selene on Oct 28, 2009, 6:36 PM

Turning the green argument againt them. - Mark Plus on Oct 28, 2009, 10:30 PM

Have you ever... - A. Selene on Oct 28, 2009, 11:57 PM

agree - Cf-mod on Oct 29, 2009, 8:39 AM

The best way to Go Green is to commit mass suicide - enoonsti on Oct 29, 2009, 10:02 PM

I happen to agree, though I know others would not - Finance Department on Oct 29, 2009, 11:32 PM

Most environmentalists don't bother me, though. - enoonsti on Oct 30, 2009, 2:24 AM

No bother at all - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 2:58 AM

I actually do have sympathies for the animal rights movement - Cf-mod on Oct 30, 2009, 7:30 AM

Agreed... - Luke Parrish on Oct 30, 2009, 12:07 PM

I mostly agree - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 12:16 PM

Re: I mostly agree - Luke Parrish on Oct 30, 2009, 12:53 PM

Secrets to a long life - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 1:17 PM

So much for "Life Extension Mix." - Mark Plus on Oct 30, 2009, 2:32 PM

A possible answer to your question... - Finance Department on Oct 30, 2009, 2:58 PM

Got a laugh out of that - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 10:51 PM

Some good points from Melody View Entire Thread - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 1:07 AM

Three Points - Melody Maxim on Oct 28, 2009, 8:36 AM

The Fourth Point - George on Oct 28, 2009, 9:04 AM

I Got That, George - Melody Maxim on Oct 28, 2009, 9:38 AM

And that's your idea of playing nice? - Cf-mod on Oct 28, 2009, 3:43 PM

Thank you for the common sense. - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 8:21 PM

Common Sense Is Very Uncommon - George on Oct 28, 2009, 8:50 PM

Common sense is no substitute for science. - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 10:25 PM

Do not confuse science with pseudoscience - George on Oct 28, 2009, 11:04 PM

"Solar" System? - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 11:21 PM

Not you but the Sun? What a Disappointment - George on Oct 28, 2009, 11:34 PM

Luke, you've been very respectful thus far... - Cf-mod on Oct 29, 2009, 8:05 AM

Will try. - Luke Parrish on Oct 29, 2009, 10:51 AM

Re: Will try. - George on Oct 29, 2009, 3:33 PM

Nice quote - enoonsti on Oct 29, 2009, 8:56 PM

It was a simple verbatim definition from Wikipedia - George on Oct 29, 2009, 12:02 PM

You're not exactly being helpful, George - Cf-mod on Oct 29, 2009, 12:23 PM

Note to self - enoonsti on Oct 28, 2009, 12:58 PM

Grandiose Thinking - George on Oct 28, 2009, 1:49 PM

I've built my own place for cryonicists - enoonsti on Oct 28, 2009, 3:38 PM

Charles in disguise? - George on Oct 28, 2009, 7:47 PM

Were you referring to Charles in a bear suit? - enoonsti on Oct 28, 2009, 11:55 PM

Obviously... - George on Oct 29, 2009, 6:04 AM

No More Work Needed - George on Oct 29, 2009, 6:16 AM

I am Charles Platt - enoonsti on Oct 29, 2009, 8:50 PM

In a Drag - George on Oct 29, 2009, 9:00 PM

Queen - enoonsti on Oct 29, 2009, 9:03 PM

Grandiose? - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 8:42 PM

Wishful Thinking - Fortunately - George on Oct 28, 2009, 9:03 PM

Re: Wishful Thinking - Fortunately - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 9:55 PM

Peak phosphorus - Mark Plus on Oct 28, 2009, 10:23 PM

Thanks for the translation. - Luke Parrish on Oct 28, 2009, 10:45 PM

Myopia - George on Oct 28, 2009, 11:08 PM

Re: Wishful Thinking - Fortunately - George on Oct 29, 2009, 2:08 PM

Look at the numbers... - Luke Parrish on Oct 29, 2009, 3:43 PM

Playing fast and lose with the facts - George on Oct 29, 2009, 4:28 PM

Not quite as dramatic as I thought? - Luke Parrish on Oct 30, 2009, 4:12 AM

Let me clarify my comment about Melody - enoonsti on Oct 29, 2009, 12:08 AM

roll call View Entire Thread - Philo on Oct 29, 2009, 8:27 AM

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