I was looking for references to a certain individual, (someone I only heard of, recently, not Kent), and I came across an old issue of "Cryonics," from October 1981. I thought FD might find this segment of interest:
"4. Prospective members will not have to be told that the "cost" of
cryonic suspension is $50,000 or $75,000 -- only that they have to pay a
yearly, quarterly, or monthly fee."
(Written by Saul Kent. Emphasis added.)
What else did the cryo-powers that be think prospective members, (or even active members), did "not have to be told," back in 1981? What about now? My theory is, Mr. Kent and his friends, (the people who, in my opinion, have funded and directed a vast amount of incompetence, over several decades), STILL think there is no need for prospective members, active members, or anyone else, to know the details of what goes on, in the operation of the cryonics organizations they fund. I'm quite sure they think they have it all under control. Apparently, they like having control, even if the outcome is, consistently, a miserable failure.
FD: "As to your assessment that everything ever done in cryonics is a "scam", I strongly disagree."
Did I write that "EVERYTHING ever done in cryonics (has been) a scam"? No. I wrote "I have come to believe SOME cryonics efforts have been perpetuated for the purposes of a scam that never fully developed."
FD: "People do with that they have to do with."
I'm so tired of hearing that lame, mind-washing crock of BS, from people who have plenty "to do with." Between Alcor, SA, CCR and 21CM, there must be greater than $5M of LEF funding, per year, (I'm not in the mood to look for the financial reports, right now), and again I ask, on what? Personally, I think the Kent clan suffers from the delusion that cryonics will be a billion-dollar baby, but I doubt that will happen in their lifetimes, or under their leadership.
FD: "Lest why the Reanimation Foundation?"
Not as an accusation toward Mr. Kent, or anyone else...If I were a con artist, I think having wealthy people put all their money into a trust fund before they die, thinking they are going to wake up again and that their money will still be there when they do, seems like a damn good scam. If I were a wealthy cryonicist, I would leave my money to LEGITIMATE scientific efforts that might result in my waking up again. (Of course, that may be hard to find, given that the people running the most well-funded cryonics organizations have given cryonics such a bad reputation, most legitimate scientists may be reluctant to engage in such research. The moral issues were a big enough stumbling block, even before certain people made cryonics look like quackery and fraud.)
FD: "...just let progress take its slow and easy flow, and to stop giving cryonics burdensome issues that it has neither the time, personnel, nor budgeted money to deal with."
They have had three decades of time, and they have more than enough money to deal with most of the current issues. What FD's apathy is going to get is more of the same. Alcor's perennial personnel issues, which FD mentioned, are a reflection of the decisions of the people who have always been in control of that organization, and most of the funding for cryonics, not just Alcor's "bad luck." Personally, I think medical professionals willing to work in cryonics can still be found. If it's a little more difficult than it should have been to find them, whose fault is that? (The people who have made cryonics look like a circus side show, instead of a valid science, and who have made it clear that their activities may result in legal woes, from time-to-time.)
FD: "Meanwhile, give it a chance, and stop making the primitive state cryonics still is in, look like a circus to the public."
What is FD doing, here? Endorsing the "paradigm of secrecy" he complains about, so often? He wants me to stop "telling it like it is," so organizations, such as Alcor and SA, won't look like what they are??? No offense to FD, but I don't understand that kind of thinking. It is what it is, and I don't feel the need to cover up for what I consider to be an unusual version of medical malpractice, and mostly a rip-off.
FD: "They should have their own brains to decide if it is for them or not - we do not need ethicists, regulators, or other people with even worse motives to be trying to tell John and Jane Q. Public what they are supposed to think and do."
They (the public) can't use their own brains to decide if it (cryonics) is for them or not, when some of the organizations are misrepresenting the quality of their services.
FD: "Promote positive change from within cryonics, not dirty laundry and overlords."
Based on my own observations, and according to a growing number of people, there is no changing Alcor and/or the LEF-funded organizations, from within. It is my understanding, there were three people with strong objections to Kent et. al.'s money (increased influence) coming into Alcor, and I believe they all left the building, (one way, or another), at about the same time everyone who didn't object got a raise. The only person remaining, who had a history of speaking out against the "R&D" efforts of one of Kent's right hands, left not long after that. The only things likely to change, from within, are the personnel who dare to say, "I think we could do this better, a different way."
FD would understand just how foolish it is to expect any improvement, if he had stood beside me watching femoral cannulations and perfusion, when I entered perfusion school, in 1989, (procedures that were virtually perfected long before even then), and then witnessed SA's attempts at these procedures, in 2009. The total lack of progress and unprofessionalism at the well-funded organizations is a joke, and I see very little hope for change, considering the perpetual state of cronyism that prevails, within Alcor and the LEF-funded organizations. (And, no, I'm not over-looking the remarks FD made about Kent having his hands in CI, to some degree; that is of concern to me, but I hope a few people with good intentions, good sense, and the ability to see through the nonsense have that under control, as indicated by their recent efforts to modify CI's representation of SA.)