You point out centernnarians don't use lifex mix-- but what DO they do right? Japanese centennarians eat natto. What do you do for supplements and fitness?

1. I don't take "supplements" because they don't work and waste money. I'd get a lot more benefit from health insurance, only it looks like our society has passed Peak Healthcare. The whole political debate about it shows how healthcare has become increasingly scarce and in need of wartime-like rationing.

2. I don't have the ability to get much exercise in my current living situation.

I also think it defeats the purpose of cryonics for cryonicists to try to live as long as possible before going into suspension. Sure, you could "take care of yourself," make it to your 80's or 90's, develop Alzheimer's or some other disability and then have a hostile relative with power of attorney step in to cancel your cryonics arrangements and make sure you get buried or cremated when you die. What good does that do for someone who had cryonics arrangements for decades? I know of cases where this has happened, and a case where this probably will happen.

Mark Plus says (a) that supplements don't work and waste money, and (b)there are hazards in trying to extend life before freezing.

(a) His statement is much too broad. There is evidence tending to support the use of some supplements, although controlled experiments with humans obviously are lacking. I take about 35 over-the-counter supplements daily, along with several prescription medications. It's pretty clear, at minimum, that none of these (most of which I've been taking for years)has had a perceptible negative effect. I'll be 91 on Dec. 4, and all my grandparents and parents died earlier than that, despite my having had wartime trauma, several surgeries, serious arthritis, shingles, and a heart attack around 12 years ago. (I have a stent in my right corornary artery.) The only supplements I'm sure have helped me are vitamin C and saw palmetto, but I think there is a pretty strong suggestion that the totality of intake has probably been beneficial and continues to be.

As for the money spent, it is not significant--a couple thousand a year or a bit more.

(b) Cases of course differ, but many members can count on their wishes being honored and their CI arrangements being implemented. I certainly have no worries on that score, since David and Connie are highly reliable and competent. Ben and
Andy are too, and Ben with Nick Pavlica has fixed me up with a system that sends a telephone alarm if I stop breathing during the night or if I press a panic button during the day. It seems to be working reliably.

At what point I will choose to check out, when I deteriorate too much, I don't yet know. Waiting might allow a more advanced procedure, or it might mean freezing after more brain deterioration. The practical arrangements also are variable and of uncertain outcome. This is subject to continual review. Well, nobody said living to a thousand would be easy.

Robert Ettinger

[I don't take "supplements" because they don't work and waste money.]

I do not know if they work, or not, but I take about 40 various supplements daily for a good number of years. (No, not the overpriced LEF stuff. They would bankrupt me.) All I can say is that I feel much better and healthier now than I felt when I was much younger. Blood tests also show much better results. In fact, as objectively measured by ophthalmologist, my eyesight even improved. Before I needed a new pair of glasses every couple of years, now I use 7 years the same pair and still going strong. Some people think 40 supplements daily is too much. My physician takes more. Ray Kurzweil takes about 100 supplements daily. Suzanne Somers takes more that. They attribute their good health to the supplements they are taking.

...the nutrients that suppress estrogen and act as testosterone releasers, or the supplements that prevent the prostate from englarging-- is all bunk to you too? A lot of it is, I agree-- but are you saying NOTHING works?