Hiya snoops! Welcome to my discussion forum. All I ask is, no cussing, dissing, flaming, blah-buh-blah. Respect & tolerate your fellow poster people. I leave you to come up with the "Yeses." Thank you muchly, now post away!
Click Here For Music "No Rain" from Blind Melon. Irrelevant? Yes. But it will keep changing regularly until I find something appropriate that I like!
Good God...
I'm writing a story where Basil takes ill with the flu and every time he sneezes, he emits a stream of colorful vocabulary one would never find in the dictionary! He's gone dilusional, so I can do that, I'm the Colonel! BTW, what's POGO? Sorry, but I'm not good with acronyms.
H.
POGO was a comic strip started in the late '40's
by Walt Kelly. It featured Pogo Possum and
other anthromorphic animals of the Okeefenokee
Swamp, but it was mainly a political satire.
You can likely find samples of it in books about
comic strips.
There was a gag in one of the strips where a
character tried to start his own strip within
a strip, and the story he wrote for it was the
basis for the goofy Basil story I put up there.
It was fun because it was so silly!
Because I've got chapter 1 ready of my Basil
story (though I need to revise it a bit). If
you still need some fanfic, and would like to see
it, let me know and I'll upload it to you. I
can send it either in .wps or .txt format, whichever your computer will accept. Do you
still have my e-mail address?
...for some reason, dahling, I keep spelling
your name as ReLda, when it should be ReDla.
I guess I was thinking of the end part of
"Esmeralda".
Do you write GMD fan fiction, too? I've been
dying to see some! I've been meaning to ask
if you will include fan fiction in your GMD
page. I can upload chapter 1 to you, too---
what format would you prefer? I'm going to try
.txt for TViolet, though I hate to use it because
all the italics and such aren't included in that.
Not that you're dyslexic, but that we all write GMD fanfic! Amazing and enthralling! I'd like to read everyone's, I was on La Page de Clopin the other day and discovered Clopin's got his own ARCHIVES for fanfic, a really long page of chapter after chapter by his beloved associates! It's enough to make a girl seeth in there...but, we'll get them back, WON'T WE?!
Excellent that everyone has there own fanfic of Bas, excellent. I recall LONG ago of reading fanfic of Clopin (when the film just came out), but I lost the address and was never find the site archive again ;_(
I'd love to read fanfic some day. Cheers to you, keep those creative juices alive!
...to La Page de Clopin, which includes it's
fanfic page. I've been working on some Clopin
fanfic of my own, but so far I've only got
Chapters 1 and 2 completed.
I'll upload Chapter 1 of my Basil story for you.
I'll do it in both .wps and .txt formats---if
one doesn't open, the other one should (.txt
SUX---I hope you get the .wps!).
I'm rediscovering Anatole, Basil's neighbor
across the Channel. I went to the library tonight
and got a couple of books, ANATOLE and ANATOLE
AND THE CAT. I love the artwork, too, by the
same guy who did Basil in the original story!
I know they're kids' books, but I don't care---
I was so happy to find the little mouse friend
from my childhood!
Btw, if anyone's interested---BASIL OF BAKER
STREET, the original book, is up for auction
on Ebay. This one is a particular find because
it has the Disney Basil on the cover---it was
rereleased as a tie-in to the 1986 film. Bid
while you can! www.ebay.com
<B>That particular copy of BASIL OF BAKER STREET (with the Disney cover) is a collectible, because of it's rarity. Only a couple of hundred thousand copies were made back in 1986, now it's a collectible.<P>
I have a copy of that edition myself, it's scuffed a bit on the back cover. Inside it's exact to to the original, illustrations by Galdone.
Great book, recommmended!
Very truly yours...<P>
--Irene Relda.<BR>
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You know you're obsessed with the Great Mouse Detective when:
1. You start speaking with a British accent.
2. You start eating more cheese.
3. You're afraid to set out mousetraps.
4. You want tea and crumpets for breakfast
every morning.
5. You develop a fear of cats.
6. You think of Ratigan every time you pass
a sewer.
7. You acquire a taste for violin music.
8. You carry a magnifying glass in your pocket
and start smoking a pipe.
9. You like to disguise yourself.
(and I could go on from there, but the rest of
you might want a go...);)
What fun!
10.Visiting London is your dream come true, because you want to see "where my baby almost met his demise, but victoriously survived the cruel claws of that...that...OOOH!"
11.The words "Goodbye so soon" mean more than just that to you.
12.You name your skinny mouse Basil, the fat one Dawson, the old one Mrs. Judson, and the white one Her Majesty.
13.You hear "Cheese crumpets" and go balistic.
14.You see a beagle and begin pawing through its fur, hoping to see "HIM!!!"
15.The Toy Shop around the corner is your new haunt, in the hopes that Basil might be chasing Fidget around on a little toy horsey!
16.You shove bats in bottles and tell those people staring at you, "Just in case."
17.If you are right handed, you convert yourself to be left handed/ambidextrous just to capture the essence. If you're left-handed, you brag of your "Spiritual connection to the Great One".(ROCK ON, BABY! LEFTIES ALL THE WAY!)
18.You hear bells and shriek something about "God help us all escape from the wrath of Felicia!"
19.You feel a strong psychic connection to Basil because there's a restaurant named "Baker Street" just down the street from your house (this is true for me, I SWEAR. If they have mice, I'm going down there NOW!)
20.Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out, baby.
Man, we're on a roll with this one, aren't we?
I think the possibilities are endless. And I love that "spiritual connection to the Great One"!
Btw, there's a Baker Street in my hometown, in
East Bakersfield, also called Old Town Kern. I
probably told you that already...but there are
some gorgeous Victorian houses there. They just
renovated one recently---restored it rather. It
was once called Noriega House, but is now the
Victorian Restaurant. Oh, it's called Baker
Street because of Colonel Baker, for whom my
town of Bakersfield was named. Pity...
...my parents are both from Iowa, and we were visiting there for Christmas one year(This was about, oh, 4 or 5 years ago, If you were to ask me who Basil of Baker Street was, I wouldn't have had a CLUE), and we went in this restaurant called The Flying Pig, one of those Bohemian cafes with funky merchandice and java like you wouldn't believe it. I saw the CUTEST little stuffed mouse, filled with sand, made with silk in the pattern of a jaguar, with its belly covered in gold satin. I bought it, and two years later, when I was in London, I also bought some aromatheropy oils in the scents of Basil and Mint. One day, I was smelling the Basil--and guess what! I accidentally spilled a little on my poor little mouse, whom I had yet to name. That's how I came to have a little mouse friend (really!) named Basil. Wow!
Sounds like you're into aromatherapy, too! I'm
into that and herbal medicine. I use peppermint
oil for migraines (lavender oil doesn't help
MY headaches). Your toy mouse sounds like a
rather pretty one.
I think they should have another toy version of
Basil, only more like Eve Titus' character than
the Disney one. I love the Disney one too, though, and I've got that one. In fact, I took
Basil, Toby, and my Djali backpack to my church
for the Blessing of the Animals, and got them
blessed!
He must have---he's still smiling! ;)
My favorite in HoND is Clopin, too! I liked most
everyone in it though, even Frollo, whom I thought
was the last word in bad until I saw RRRRATIGAN!!!
He's got such a Mephistophelan quality about him,
he's the rat you love to hate!
I got to see "Clopin" at the character Meet & Greet at WDW back in August. He paid lots of
attention to me. And---if I'm lyin', I'm dyin'---
he kissed me RIGHT ON THE MOUTH!!! :):):)
Gee, I wish Bas and Ratters could do a Meet & Greet...
Poor things, they must have been so jealous...
I was just as surprised as they were. I mean,
there were girls there a whole lot prettier than
I was. Maybe that's why...I know one thing, I
sure FELT like a queen the rest of that evening!
I phoned Irene and told her: "If I die tonight,
promise me you won't let them wipe the grin off
my face!!!" :):):)
Yes, the Yoplait (whatever) commercials. I remember those. Was he cute, was he cute? Was he better looking that in the movie? (If he was, I'm killing you and wiping that smirk off your face whether you like it or not!)
Ok, how d'you feel about JUST as cute? Yes, he
was cute! Well, you can go get a look at him---
have you seen La Page de Clopin yet? If you don't
have the link, I'll give it to you---somewhere
there's the link that has the photos of him.
I've also seen the actor in his "civvies" too---
he looks WAY different from his character, but
he's really nice!
Here's the link to La Page de Clopin, maintained
by my good friend, another Irene (Levy):
http://www.geocities.com/Hollyood/8383/index.html
It is the mother of most, if not all, possible
links to the Gypsy King and his fandom. It has
the link to several forums as well, but here's
the one anyway to the La Page de Clopin forum:
Well I have done some of things. Like I don't like cats, I do eat a lot of cheese ask my family, I do love to disguise myself, I do think of him. Well that is a few things I do.
I think I might have some things for that. 1. You can't stop thinking about him. 2. You can't help but love mice and 3 you can't help but love them alot. If anyone understands what these means please email me if they have any problems with it or if they want to tell me anything from these three things.
It's actually in the third stanza---it's a filk
song I started on one time, but only today did
I add the part about Basil. I saved the best
for last, of course...
Ok, from the top:
Headline Disney
(from “Headline News” by Wierd Al Yankovic)
Once there was this toy,
a cowboy doll named Woody
who played with a boy named Andy
but then, on Andy’s birthday
he got another toy named Buzz Lightyear
It made Woody so crazy he knocked Buzz out a window
Mm mmm mmm mmm...etc.
Once there was this hunchback
who rang the bells of Notre Dame
and loved a Gypsy dancer;
but when old Frollo chased her
he slipped and fell right off the cathedral
It served that puppy right and the audience
cheered soooo loud
Mmm mmm mmm mmm...etc.
I’d like to have their sound bytes
If I don’t break the copyrights...
Once there was this mouse who
tried to be like Sherlock Holmes
and had a friend named Dawson
but then he met this big rat
who tried to knock him off of old Big Ben
Poor Basil got his butt kicked
but still came out the hero
Mmm mmm mmm mmm...etc.
Basil didn't get his butt kicked, although he was...scuffed up...a...bit...SHUT UP! My poor Basil was tricked into going up there, and almost got his poor tail ripped off, my poor darling! Oh, how terrible it must have been! *sniff* Thank God he had the decency to make a miniature helicopter!
Ok, that WAS a poor choice of words---I was
afraid of how that would look, but I was at the
point of no return...sorry, anyhow.
What I meant by Bas getting his "butt kicked"
was, he DID, in a sense, if you define it as
getting beaten up (which he certainly WAS, poor
sweet baby). But the term is often interpreted
as "getting beaten" as in getting defeated---and
Basil certainly wasn't.
That really wasn't a nice way to put that, though,
so you can delete it if you want, TViolet...
meanwhile, I'll work on a more tasteful Basil song. Hey, you know I love the little guy, and
I'll defend his honor anytime... :)
Our man...er, mouse...must be protected! Fear not, Basil, for you are the one Disney character that has a whole arsenal of 19th Century royal maidens out to destroy any and all who defy you!
Though that part about Bas getting "his butt kicked" WAS open to interpretation... ;)
I dunno, TViolet. I haven't visited the Animated
Lust or Animation Forums in a while, and if I do,
I've had to change my nickname. I'll think about
it, though---I personally know the maintainer of
the Clopin Forum, and she might let me post it---
it shouldn't be OT since it has about the Hunchback in it. Anyway, I got such a kick out
of Weird Al's interpretation of that song, that
I couldn't resist turning it into a Disney parody!:)
That's the best reason to make a parody, is if it's stirrin' in your head and it's gotta get out! Sure, post it at the HoND forum, they'd like that. What about the animation forums? Did you get a bad rep there or somethin?
My brother's suggesting I take the V out of my handle and swithc the I and O around.
I'll spare you the gory details, but I got into
a tiff with one of the posters, and now I prefer
to post my stuff under another nickname, so that
person won't be able to reply to me (or if they
do, it won't matter). I've been sort of harrassed
by the person in question, and I can do without
that.
I'll write Irene (Levy, not Relda)and ask her,
but I'm positive she'd enjoy it!
Perspective is rule here. I was a bit insulted by the lyrics (but I enjoy Weird Al).
Basil was NOT defeated! He won: brains against braun! Ratigain tried brains, he loss. Ratigan tried braun, (though he scuffed up Bas in the process) he still loss.
Basil is not a braun fighter as a rule (either is Sherlock really), he's an intellectual fighter. He's got the spunk!
Personally, my heart goes to Basil in that Big Ben battle because it told me that even the best of heroes have there sensivities.
Just because you beat the dear physically, doesn't mean it would beat him up mentally (that's the point!)
I'll depend his honour any day as well. We should all unite! HUZZAH!
...and that WAS a sorry choice of words in the
lyrics, but you always hurt the one you love...
And I hope my beloved mouse knows, despite that,
that I would defend his honour at the drop of a
hat, or maybe a gauntlet.
Oh, yes---the thing about that Big Ben scene---I
liked it, as far as the suspense, etc. was concerned, but in a way I also hated it because I
hated seeing Basil get hurt, even though I knew
he was going to win out in the end. The first
time I saw that scene, though, I was on the edge of my seat, and almost cried when I saw my sweet
Basil falling through the clouds right after
Ratigan!
So ok, "it's only a movie". But who cares?
Everytime I see Ratzo whooping up on my little
darling, I mutter, "You b*****d..." That dirty
rat has a way of bringing that out!
Yes, we all cry when we see our darling in that scene, no? Did you all see that Simpsons episode on Sunday? When they played the "Glove slap, glove slap/I don't take no crap" song? I saw Homer's glove and thought of gauntlet, which reminded me of Basil! Now *there's* a song!
Homer sees "The Poke of Zorro", and watches as Zorro defeats his enemies, not with traditional "Z", but with a gauntlet slapped across their face, light enough not to gauge out eyeballs, but just enough to sting! I think Basil would agree to that, don't you?
H.
I would have LOVED seeing Bas smack a glove across
Ratigan's face!!! I was telling TViolet awhile
back how impressed I was with the scene where
Basil, still in his disguise, is now face-to-face
with Ratzo (as I like to call him!), grins
wickedly, and says, "Ratigan...no one can have
a higher opinion of you than I have...and I think
you're a slimy, contemptible SEWER RRRAT!!!"
I told TViolet that Bas was either exceptionally brave, or exceptionally crazy (or,
forgive me, Bas, STUPID) for mouthing off at
Ratigan like that, right to his face, with all
those thugs surrounding him and Dawson---when
even one of the MICE was bigger than him! Like,
to quote me again, "As long as I've stepped thru
the gates of Hell anyway, why don't I kick the
devil in the groin while I'm here?" Way to go,
Bas...
Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood this A.M.
And this is me when I'm SOBER!
...and yes, I read that message in the forum. Very interesting concept, but it was still really funny when Basil mouthed off at the Big R., wasn't it, Basil?
...for a few minutes. Then after Ratigan ripped
off my phony mustache (which I found quite painful), everybody started laughing at ME. That
hurt even more than the mustache, I dare say...
Yes, I was wincing throughout that *whole* ordeal, Basil! Have you ever seen the movie "The Great Race", when Dr. Whatshisname and Max are in Siberia, and Max breaks the Doc's mustache off in the cold? It's really funny. You *have* to see that movie, it's hysterical! It wasn't funny when *your* mustache was ripped off, though. Poor darling!
...but now I want to just to look at that
most hilarious scene. I hope it didn't hurt that
charming gentleman as much as my little ordeal
(though I'd have preferred THAT to Ratigan's
nasty claws raking across my back!).
Dr. Whatshisname, CHARMING?! *snort* I should *hardly* think so, my dear Basil. He was slimy, greasy, all black and evil and so funny! Oh, you should look up that movie sometime, perhaps on AltaVista or some other search engine. It's absolutely hysterical, especially when Doc and Max are stuck on an iceberg, and the sky is red.
Max speaks first.
"The sky's red." Doc turns to look at him.
"So?"
"Gonna be a storm."
"How do you know?"
"Sailor's thingee. Red at night, sailor's delight, red in the morning, sailors take warning."
"That's not true."
"Is so."
"Shut up." BOOM! Crack of lightning, and turrets of rain. That's one of the best parts in the whole movie, but not THE best. The best is the pie fight with the Duke of Russia. He's in his PJs, and is very, very, drunk.
Regards.
H.
Ok I ahvent' heard this weird al song, but the setup of it makes me think of an older song from years ago called "mmm mmm mmm mmm" by the Crashtest Dummies!~ Does anyone ese remember it? They had like two hit songs and then faded into obscurity!Al probably did a parody of that songh!
...I meant to mention that, but couldn't remember
the title anyway or the group that sang it. I
just remember "Gump" being a parody of "Lump" by
the Presidents of the United States.
Is "Christmas at Ground Zero" by the Al man. That song still cracks me up, even though I've listened to it a bajillion times! I love it I love it I love it!
I can't believe I avoided watching Basil all these years because I thought it woukldn't be any good! I watched it again and was even more majorly impressed!!! Disney tends to maintain a good standard of entertanment and animation, and they do it with this one with minimal amount of songs and sap!! I would have to say it's one of the best of what I call Disney's "New Fangled Era" (basically mid eighties onwards).It's got some really funny good moments in it, and some really good characertization in the animation.And the Oh Rattigan song is really cool!!
...but I could kick myself for not seeing it at
the theatres years ago. I saw it on video only
after its re-release at the end of August. But
they had advertised it over and over during my
stint at WDW earlier that month, and the movie
sounded so good (and Basil looked so cute) I
knew I would get the film. I was "in love" with
Basil at first sight! And wasn't that Big Ben
sequence something else? The computer animation
was fantastic, and it was practically the grandfather of all CGI scenes (like the wildebeest
stampede in Lion King, the crowd scenes in HoND,
and the avalanche sequence in Mulan)!
I read that GMD followed Black Cauldron, which
Disney had considered a failure (though its fans
wouldn't agree), and after GMD's success, things
began to pick up for the studios.
While I was cleaning out what was my room in our
old house (we're almost done moving), I had a
sad surprise. LONG before I watched GMD (which
has since made me reluctant to trap any mice),
I was having rodent problems, and got one of those
"mouse motels" (like for roaches, only for mice).
Tonight I discovered a poor little dead mousie
in it! Don't get those traps, they're cruel.
Get one of those plug-in things that send out
radio waves, and then let your neighbors worry
with them.
Oh no I'm having flashbacks to religious choir!!!
MOUSE MOTELS? Oh my GAWD that's awful!! I used to keep pet mice and rats too, I could never kill them!! Not even the dirty little wild ones. That's why I kept a cat *bwa hahahaha* well I didn't keep the cat specifically to kill the mice,they just tend to avoid places cats are, so dont' jump on me okaaaaaay?!?!
I borrowed that line from "Hunchback of Notre Dame"...
by TMQ
...stole it, really.
The mice kept chewing my stuff and keeping me
awake at night, so I had to do something. But
the "mouse motel" was stupid. I love mice, really, but when they start partying in your room
every night, sometimes you have to do the unthinkable. Of course, I've since discovered
a more humane way, one of those plug-in deelibobbers that put out radio waves or something. Rodents hate it and it drives them
away.
My cat couldn't care less if they ransacked our kitchen.
We don't have meeses problems, but if we did, Teddy would probably just get an irritated look from their crawling over his face.
Lord have mercy!!!! (Hey that gets me more in the mood for Cab Calloway than religious choir.. what does it MEEEEEN???)
That conjures up an amusing mental picture:
Teddy sitting there with mice crawling all over
him! It puts me in mind of one of those old
Warner Bros. cartoons where some poor cat had to
watch a whole gang of bad mice raise h*ll in the
kitchen! They also had a funny commercial awhile
back for kitty litter---some mice came out, and
didn't smell a cat around, so they started dancing
and whooping it up---then, HERE CAME THE CAT!!!
Go Irving Berlin! I'm so happy I finally found the words to THIS song, I'm terribly sorry I keep posting the words to songs on this forum, but just THINK what GMD would have turned out like had they done this song, in, oh, say, the Rat Trap Saloon...*shudder*
Have you seen the well-to-do
Up and down Park Avenue
On that famous thoroughfare
With their noses in the air
High hats and narrow collars
White spats and lots of dollars
Spending every dime
For a wonderful time
Now, if you're blue
And you don't know where to go to
Why don't you go where fashion sits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Different types who wear a daycoat
Pants with stripes and cutaway coat
Perfect fits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Dressed up like a million dollar trooper
Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper
Super-duper
Come, let's mix where Rockefellers
Walk with sticks or "umberellers"
In their mitts
Puttin' on the Ritz
Tips his hat just like an English chappie
To a lady with a wealthy pappy
Very snappy
You'll declare it's simply topping
To be there and hear them swapping
Smart tidbits
Puttin' on the Ritz
Puttin' on the Ritz
Puttin' on the Ritz
I just think that would have been really funny if Basil would have had to do a solo of this, crazy, but I noticed that the only two who ever really sing in the movie are the Stage Girl and Ratigan, if you don't count his henchmen. I was very surprised that Basil didn't sing, but that was a movie that wasn't all song-heavy and musically overdone, just good old plain and simple, and that was nice enough for the Baroness. Ta!
*strolls away humming to self*
Now, if you're blue, and you don't know where to go to, why don'tcha go where fashion sits...
...that Henry Mancini, master of such great works
as The Pink Panther Theme, did the music for GMD?
I'm glad they kind of cut down on the songs, too.
I'm no music hater by ANY means, but I think for
GMD, less was more. A film like Hunchback of
Notre Dame was different, it more or less called
for lots of songs and music. I do wonder how it
would have been for Basil to sing, and now that
I've heard Barrie Ingham in JEKYLL & HYDE, I
wonder what we might have missed there...
Btw, I read that they had originally planned to
use American voice actors for GMD's North American
release. THE HORROR, THE HORROR!!! It would
have been stupid, because the story takes place in
England anyway---and besides, Ingham's voice as
Basil is SO wonderful!
I like "Putting on the Ritz", though I never knew
all the words to it before. Sometime I might
surprise you with a song... ;)
I checked out one of his CDs.. he did "Moon River" too, among other familiar songs.
Basil with an American accent?!?!?!?! NO WAY!!!!!
UGH-- it's so stupid how they were all worried about the movie being "Too British" for young American audiences. That's why the movie wasn't called "Basil of Baker Street" in the first place.
There was once a time when I cringed at the thought of Basil singing... but then, to my consternation and delight, I saw Rathbone singing (in disguise) in "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" and that kind of opened my mind. I'd like to hear some of Barrie's singing.. I hope they don't screw him by hiring another singer, like they did Jeremy Brett in "My Fair Lady." ::AARRRGH::
Personally, It's difficult to picture Basil singing. Yes, Rathbone did sing in an SH film. Jeremy Brett sang as Holmes, too, in a few. There's 2 SH musicals to my knowledge: "Baker Street" (1973? -- I haven't heard the musical to this one yet, but accordingly Holmes singing doesn't seem awkward) and "Holmes! The Musical" (1997-99). Once there was Holmes in a ballet (I'd love to see that!).<P>
Very truly yours...<P>
--Irene Relda.<BR>
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Now THAT I have GOT to see! I did see a ballet
of Dicken's "A Christmas Carol" once, which was
marvelous. But Holmes in a ballet? SOMEBODY
tape that one! I'd like to see the musicals,
too! I wonder if they have the soundtracks
available?
It would be hard to picture Basil singing, though
I'm sure he would be in excellent voice. Now
Dawson would be easier to picture singing,
or even Olivia. Ratigan, you were in top voice,
dahling, and you were an excellent singer...for
a slimy, contemptible sewer rat!!!
Alas, we could have missed out on the time of our lives...
by Baroness H. von R.
...had Basil been made to sing. *That* would have been the highlight of my Disney film-watching career, believe you-me, dahlings. Of course, we could always ask what BASIL himself thinks of all this, no? How very smarting it would be for him to tell us his tenor voice has been slipping over the years, he hasn't sung since that CATHOLIC BOY'S CHOIR, eh, Mouse Queen? ;) (Sorry, luvs, just another topic from another forum she and I have been discussing lately.) Can't you just SEE him in one of those cute little white robes and the sheet music, all squirming and wiggling around in the pews? You don't suppose he was the type to play tricks on Sister Mary Jane or Sister Mary Elizabeth, do you? Or was he a good boy, always neat and prim...
Indeed, queen, it would be horrendous had they dubbed over Mr. Ingham's voice. We would never fully appretiate the true persona of our dear Basil, would we? What a tragedy that would have been, indeed. But I still say he should have sang something...
Yeah, if there ever IS one. And speaking of tenor, I was remembering awhile back when we
were wondering what kind of voice Bas had. I
think he's a baritone, though it's possible he
could be a tenor.
Oh, I don't know about that "good boy" stuff---
maybe he WAS a little devil at times, and didn't
start behaving till he got older! ;)
If he had a choir director like MY old one, I
could understand the reluctance---I could write
a horror story about my old church choir. I
still let out primal screams every time I hear
some of our old numbers!
Oh, me, oh, my! Couldn't you just SEE him putting pins in the nun's chairs and making all kinds of pranks on the Bishops and Cardinals? Lord, wouldn't *that* be hysterical!
Basil was a BAD BOY?! Oooh, I don't like the SOUND of THAT one!
by Baroness von Richthofen
That reminds me of an episode of Frasier, called "The Adventures of Bad Boy and Dirty Girl", where Frasier does the wild thing with his boss (Kate Costas) ON THE AIR! It's SOOOOOOOO funny! That's one of my favorite episodes. But don't worry, Your Majesty, I don't think Basil even knows what a radio is, let alone the wild thing! ;)
That title did sound familiar. I love Frasier,
he's so funny!
I dunno---didn't they have radio in the late
19th Century? Basil would likely have been
fascinated by one. As for the wild thing---
if he knows anything, he's keeping THAT a mystery!
Radios did not come out until the 1930's or 40's, during the war, those big brown ones with the funky dials. Yes, I'm sure Basil would have had many adventures trying to find the little people trapped inside the big box, trying to help them get out! In regard to your last subject, I'm sure he knows *something* about that tense topic, eh, old bean? ;) Just teasing.
H.
My mother grew up during the Depression, and
they had a radio during the 30's. When she was
little, she busted one up trying to "find the
people"!
Comedian Paul Provenza told about trying to get
Mighty Mouse out of the TV with a screwdriver
when he was little. His dad caught him, and
seeing how upset the kid was, handed him a ball
bat and said, "Go let Elvis out of your sister's
stereo."
But we don't want to remember *that* little scenario, do we?
by Baroness Hazel
Neither does Basil. I can remember my parents (yes, I was a child of the eighties, I know what mono stereo was!) had two mono stereo speakers and I would sit in front of them and wonder why the people inside didn't come out and talk to me.
I was a child of the Sixties (but then, I told
you that already), and when I was little, I
would talk to the TV (Dad still does when he's
watching sports---"I TOLD YOU TO INTERCEPT THAT
PASS! NEXT TIME YOU'LL LISTEN!"). One afternoon
I was watching Password, and when Allen Ludden
asked a question, I answered it out loud. I
could have SWORN he actually heard me and responded! My, what fun TV would be if that
could be true (except I'd hate to have one of
those big mean wrestlers threaten to whip my
a**!)?
I wonder what Basil would say if that really happened and he could communicate with the old Sherlock Holmes shows?
"No! No! No! NOT IN THERE, IN THE STUPID PARLOR, YOU IDIOT! I COULD HAVE DEDUCED THAT FASTER THAN YOUR IDIOT PARTNER WATSON! STOP THAT! STOP LOOKING AT THAT WOMAN, HOLMES, YOU FOOL! NOOOOOOOO!"
Ha, ha! I would laugh myself silly at the sort of things he would say.
H.
Yeah that would sound cool. But I am happy talking to my younger twin sister Emma. But sometimes on my own I wonder if the characters from gmd could talk to me. Yeah right if that could happen I am dreaming.
Re: Basil was a bad boy?! Oooh, I don't like the sound of that one!
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Excuse me but do I have to be the serious one around you. No I agree he won't know what a radio but he might find out. What is the wild thing you are on about? Sorry I am not good on my American.
If you've seen the Granada series, you most likely have observed all the ENERGY Jeremy Brett's performance as Holmes. His is a hyperactive Holmes, restless, twitching for action-- as opposed to Basil Rathbone's cool and calculating Holmes, the guy rarely taken by surprise.
And since GMD was released in the mid-80's, about the same time the Granada series was originally airing, I believe a lot of the characterization of Basil of Baker Street was taken from Brett's version.
Interesting conclusion, I've never watched the series with any of the famous Holmeses, but I'm sure you're right in your discernment that it could be that way.
...though I had only recently seen Brett's Holmes,
having already seen GMD back in August. You know,
I think A & E should do one of their Biography
shows about Sherlock Holmes, if they haven't
already. They've done fictional characters
before, so that won't be a problem. I think it'd
be neat, and they could also show the different
actors who played him through the years. There
was even a silent film version of Holmes!
Yes i've seen the biography of Quasimodo several times so far.. If they did a Sherlock Holmes Bio I would just DIE!
But die happily, of course. There's SO much potential in something like that... I'll look at A&E.com to see if they haven't done it yet... they rilly oughtta! ANd considering there's now a Biography channel, chances are greater of it happening!
Speaking of old SH movies, I once saw this very old one, an early talkie.. the amazing thing about it is its resemblance to the original Paget drawings! Everyone else there at the time thought I was insane for going so ballistic over this old ovie, but it was as if Paget's drawings were brought to life!!!! The actor had it down pat, the hair, the outfit, everything! Erm, except for the voice, he sounded a tad shrill...
It was made by Jay North Studios (of "Bullwinkle"
fame)during the 60's. Hosted by the late Hans
Conreid, it parodied movies and TV shows by
dubbing comedy voices over old films and newsreels. There was a segment that spoofed
Sherlock Holmes with a detective called Sherman
Oaks. The guy was such a goof---in one episode
called, "The Death of Sherman Oaks", Sherman gets
murdered (if you can call it that)and then tries
to find out who killed him!!! *LOL*
Alas, I don't get the Biography channel, but I
think I'll write A & E to ask if they couldn't
do a bio show on Holmes! :)
I don't get it either. ;_; Wish I did tho-- and Turner Classic Movies! i was just trying to find out how to get it.. but I may have to change my cable company..
Anywho, Hans Conried eh? He was the voice of Captain Hook! He was also in "The 5000 fingers of Dr. T"!
>>The guy was such a goof---in one episode
called, "The Death of Sherman Oaks", Sherman gets
murdered (if you can call it that)and then tries
to find out who killed him!!! *LOL*<<
*ROFLMAO* I've never even heard of that! There was something on Comedy Central some years ago (less funny) called "Monkey Boy," which did the same thing.
I miss Short Attention Span Theatre! They used
to have a lot of good stuff on there. Now it's
mostly Saturday Night Live (which is ok), Absolutely Fabulous and movies. And Dana Carvey's
show over and over...it's just that I miss all
the stand-up comedy shows they used to have,
like The A List, Stand Up-Stand Up, London
Underground, etc. And I miss SCTV! That show
was so fun...and Lord, I miss Ernie Kovacs.
I'm afraid the only show I recognized there was SNL. Hey! Melissa's only 15, come on, people! You all are all old...er...than she is, and, uh, well, she doesn't deserve to not understand what the heck you are talking about! Yeah, that's right! I think...
Melissa was just a little thing when the show
came out, so this would be a strange thing. Hey,
it was strange when I watched it, too! To this
day I don't quite understand the concept, I just
know it was hilarious...
Ironically, the SH bio first aired on Friday, 13 Sept 1995, the day after that Mr. Brett passed away.
Irony again, the special guest narrator of the bio is Mr. Brett's first Watson, David Burke!! The bio is quite good, but personally, I didn't think they said enough on him. Clips of Mr. Brett pop in several times, a few Rathbone, Cushing, and Gillette.
There's been over 170 actors whom portrayed Holmes, I have a list of them I complied myself.
If you haven't seen any of the portrayals of SH, I recommend that you do. Particularly, Bret, Rathbone, Cushing, and Stephens.
The "Basil of of Baker Street" division of Disney which started in roughly in 1982 based Basil's hyperactive from the original Doyle stories, Rathbone, and I think also to Robert Stephens (in "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes"). Brett's Holmes didn't come to television until 1985, and the series didn't come to the US until 1986 (the year the film came out).
So the characterizion of Basil is doubtfully from Brett's (though I'd love it if it was). It was the books, Rathbone, and Stephens. Unfortunately, not Brett. :(
Very truly yours...
I also have this vague memory from my childhood of having a "Peter and the Wolf" record that we listened to all the time... my sister remembers it better. But I think that was the same recording Ratters was talking about in his biography ("In and Out of Character"). He narrated it to Leopold Stokowski's conducting of the music.
