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human rights and latest bus plus proposals
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Over the years, Colney Hatch lane has been hacked away by the actions of various councils: chopping down trees, reducing pavements, concreting over grass and now a further threat to our lane that of removing the final remnants of greenery, paving over the remaining vestiges of grass verges. A once leafy, green Muswell Hill is being slowly deprived of its village charm being turned into a noisier and dangerous place to live.
The latest bus plus proposals will turn Colney Hatch lane into 4 lanes off traffic or possibly 3.5 resulting in great danger to all as cars thunder down the Lane believing the road to be wider than it actually is. When the general transport policy is to narrow roads to calm traffic down, in my stretch of Colney Hatch Lane, it appears to be that of widening the Lane and creating a faster road, which will support a higher volume of traffic.
The reasoning behind these proposals is that the congestion created by the traffic lights, ironically placed to improve the flow of traffic and speed up bus times on the 43 bus route, will be reduced by widening the road. If you stand at the bus stop on Colney Hatch Lane near the traffic lights, it is quite clear why there is so much congestion at the traffic lights. The tail back of cars all want to turn left at the traffic lights!! Yes the decision to block off all the roads linking Colney Hatch Lane and Alexandra Park Road has caused chaos on Colney Hatch Lane. Why some road should be created as safe havens at the expense of other residential streets is beyond me. I would be very interested to find out where the councillors who proposed these measures live… Hence the solution to all the problems must surely be to open up all the roads that have been closed linking Colney Hatch Lane and Alexandra Park Road.
Instead a series of proposals have been forced on a few residents in a very short space of time – less than a month in which to examine the proposals, and make a response. These proposals will not only create chaos for road users on Colney Hatch lane (bearing in mind that the changes imposed on us by the alleged improvements to the 43 bus route resulted in 10 months of mayhem) but also infringe on our basic human rights. Noise pollution already disturbs the sleep of residents living on Colney Hatch Lane especially since the Council closed off roads and erected traffic lights. Are we to be made to suffer more as the traffic will be tearing down the road even closer to our safe havens? Are we to be imprisoned in our homes, unable to open the windows at the front of our house because we cannot bear the noise or the fumes? When we do venture out, it will be almost impossible for mothers with prams or the disabled to walk along the reduced pavements. If we decide to cross the road, the traffic will be even faster and we do so at our own peril. Even more sinister, are these proposals paving the way for CPZ?
If all residents and residents associations do not stand up for our human rights and fight these proposals then it may be your garden they are taking away next…
I agree, it is bad enough as it is. Too much noise, pollution and danger. I can't think why everything is being made in favour of motorists and nothing for pedestrians. Elderly people, mothers with prams or small children, pets and the rest of us risk our lives enough everytime we attemp to cross the road between speeding cars, even walking along the pavement is dangerous as there are often traffic accidents mostly in the bit that connects Muswell Hill Broadway with Colney Hatch Lane or the round about.
Children have been ran over as well as family pets such as cats due to speeding cars. These sort of accidents leave devastation behind and no one seems to be doing anything about the speed limit or possible installation of cameras. They should sort that out first instead of actually just adding to the problems we have already.
... all those daddies with the pushchairs. What do you think they get up to when the mummies are at Ashtanga yoga? The place is awash with men dying to get out their hot buns. And I for one can't get enough of it.
Maybe contact the Muswell Hill 'Pink and Proud' events organiser, Justin Milenarsky who can be found in the phone book. He's always happy to help with anything you need.
Glad to see that these sad gits are still living their empty little lives out in Muswell Hill. Just as bigoted as ever - imagine my surprise at discovering they still (even at the great age of 25) think gay people are hilarious. Joined the National Front yet lads?
I'm a woman, so I have no idea if there's a gay scene in Muswell Hill but there should be one.
I mean, the guy that said: Of course not, this is Muswell Hill!
What did he mean by it? Muswell Hill is full of arty, young and open minded people, there's bound to be plenty of Gay people among them that have their favourite hang outs. Don't give up! Try and find it or start one yourself!
YEAH I KNOW A GAY SCENE. iTS ROUND THE BACK OF B2 EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT. I CHARGE 10 4 A S**K AND 20 FOR A A**E F*C***G!!!! Am Really good. Ask 4 Tottenham fan Muzzer or Woden. HOPE TO C U SOON SWEETIE, XXX
This is slander, some scouse twat is trying to give me disrespect, don't worry though he lives in a ****hole called scouseland so every one should feel sorry for him!
Why has the Shoe shop next door to the Odeon been allowed to change the shop front and put in what looks like the front of a fish tank it looks terrible it don't match the area and as the Odeon is a listed building I don't think this should have been allowed by the council If it was that is.
My wife and I have just moved to Muswell Hill and I wondered if anyone could tell me if there is anywhere on 'the broadway' I can get Orange Pekoe tea and Bath Oliver biscuits... I'd be very grateful if anyone could help. Thanks.
Lovely area!!!
Your best bet would be the shop called called 'Martins' which sells all manner of tasty things including freshly roasted coffee. Situate on Muswell Hill Broadway almost opposite Marks & Spencers. I am sure they would have them.
What a pity that there are people like you out there. I do not know what point you are trying to make but it is a shame that you abuse such an interesting and informative site in this manner.
Mostly people are about being simple, honest and decent without hidden agendas of derisive and sneering content. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.
Thankyou very much for your help Joy. My wife and I found Martins and what a delight!! We spent a wonderful twenty minutes wandering round the little shop and to our delight were able to find exactly what we wanted (as well as much besides!!). Imagine our surprise to discover it was over 100 years old!
I've had a few responses already. Is there anyone else who either taught or was a pupil at Creighton between 1975 - 1981. I would love to hear from you or maybe meet up for a chat to catch up on old times.
To refresh your memory - who knows of:
Heads of Year: Mr Whittard, Mrs Hattersley, Mrs Cookson
Form Tutor: Matthew Broderick
English Teachers: Mrs Johns, Mr Chadwick, Mr Noble, Yolanda Bailey
Maths Teachers: Mr Lill, Mr Evans, Miss Tickly
Chemistry Teachers: Mr Dayne, Mr Kurer
Biology Teachers: Miss Cullen, Mr Buckland
History Teachers: Miss Baugh
Physics Teachers: Mr Baird
Art Teachers: Miss Rapley, Mr Williams, Leslie Sutton
Geography Teachers: Miss Hiles, Graham Cranbourne
German Teachers: Miss Dadzie
Music Teachers: Miss Hart, Miss Burnett
PE Teachers: Mr Michaeloudes, Mr Jackson, Mr Hado
Home Economics: Miss Hedges,
RE Studies: Mr Bamford
Needlecraft: Miss Wright
Hung out with Roger Walton, Neil Collins, Earl Christian, Sian Turner, Gavin Soo, Tracey Fuller, Michael Tappis, Costas Dionysou, Ergun Ismail, Perry Mustapha and more - where are they now?
I have a brother who was 2 years below me
- Brian Pilgrim
I went to Alexandra Park from 1972 to 1979 and had Yolanda for two years. I was not aware that she was at Creighton. My brothers Joe and Sam, and sister Cleo where at Crieghton, with Joe starting out at Ally Park. I knew heaps of people at Creighton at the time, would love to stay in touch with anyone who turns up on your contact list.
PS Mr Buckland, the biology teacher has an indentical twin who taugh Biology at our school!
She taught me English from 1979 onwards in Tetherdown annexe of Creighton. I met her years later on Quernmore Road N4 - very laid back teacher and have good memories of her.
I too was at Creighton from about 1976 to 1981 but don't remember her - but you seem to have a pretty good memory for all of the other teachers - I was in Mr Hado's form but I don't recognize any of your class mates
I was at Creighton until 1976 and remember most of the people you listed. Did you ever get any other responses? I'd love to know. I now live in Toronto, Canada.
Does anyone living in Muswell Hill know of a girl called Kerry Dickson? Last known to be living there about five years ago, she would now be around thirty years ago, around 5'3-5'4, dark hair, originally from W.Sussex, had been to Leicester University in the early nineties. Would love to know what became of her.
I used to go to Tetherdown Primary School and then Creighton Comprehensive. I was born in 1957 so you can work it out for yourselves how old I am!
I am just wondering whether there is anyone out there who knows anyone that I used to go to school with.
I live in Australia now and haven't been able to keep in touch with anyone from school -which I would like to rectify.
Some names are:- Elaine Clarke, Penny Ross, Anne Grossman, Carole Walker-Robson, Simon Cowtan, David Thomas, Tony Mund[a]y, Richard Oldfield - I could go on!
If anyone knows an address please let me know. Thanks.
Sue,
I didn't go to Creighton but I know there are several contacts from your year on a schools website at www.friendsreunited.co.uk
You need to register, then you are free to browse your school details. There are also links to other Willy Grim & Creighton websites.
Hope this is of help
Looking for information on Frederick Haldane Smith. His father was William Parsons Smith. Ran a shop in Muswell Hill in the early 1900s, perhaps a family run shop.
Doing research for my family tree. Haldane was apparently a family name. Parsons was the maiden name of ancestor further back.
Hoping with middle names that someone may know someone who knows someone ...
Apparently Frederisk had at least 1 brother, William and a couple of sisters.
I have never seen so much moaning and bickering, except maybe in a teen chat room!
Now don't get me wrong I like a good moan, and I may even be moaning now but if your gonna moan about something then moan, moan, moan...blah, blah, blah!!
Look Muswell Hill is not untouchable, your gonna have crime! And kids growing up are always gonna go through a bit of petty crime, some will, some wont, some will move on to more crime some will leave it behind them(myself, opting for the latter). The point is, you don't live in some enclosed bubble that is 'Muswell Hill' and to be honest it's frightning listening to you all talk as if Muswell Hill is some secret society...It's not a village in Devon, It's not a quaint little town in the middle of nowhere...It's Muswell Hill! A-nice-looking-part-of-the-armpit-town-that-is-LONDON!!
So enjoy it, drink whilst underage, park illegally, hang out with the Scots(Dundee United!!)at B2, laugh in the face of Snobs and just walk into bloody Falconer and say look you cheap bastids, finish the damn shop cos it looks wack!
Ok, that's how you moan! Now I have done my bit to contribute to a completely wasted forum!
It is true that there are a lot of stuck up twats that inhabit Muswell hill, but I have a solution for that. 1 weeks intensive genocide and all who resist can be deported to Crouch End to live with the scum down there. I would also like to say to all those people who believe Muswell Hill is squeaky clean, you're wrong! Within in 5 minutes of a quick phone call I can have any drug of my choice on my doorstep, I can then stroll up the hill and happily Chuff/Snort/Munch away on the drug of my choice every weekend and no one would notice, I know this because its done by hundreds every weekend. Muswell Hill looks lovely but under the surface it's a ****hole, if you could pull yourselves away from your constant striving to have the best hanging baskets on the avenue then you would know that it's time for the working class uprising of Muswell Hill!
I live in Muswell Hill and don't indulge in drugs and whilst aware such a scene no doubt exists, as it does in every area, no matter if it's Brixton or Mayfair, I feel the side of Muswell Hill that you paint is very one sided and only experienced if one is part of the drug scene. The middle class residents of the area are unlikely to see the murkier aspects, as drug taking is rarely part of their agenda.
If the area is so awful why are you living here? I would imagine you are not tied down by a mortgage or children so could leave for an area of your choosing.
I was not being entirely serious in my previous article, it was tongue in cheek. I was trying to make the point that many folk in muswell hill think they are somehow part of a special community while at the same time their children think and act like they are rudeboys from Wood Green. I have no problem with this but I do find it funny that the Muswell Hill wives are totally oblivious to their kids lifestyles. Also, there isn't an underground drugs scene in the area, it's overground and, rightly, accepted by most people. Most of the drug-taking is down by the posh-boys. Lastly, I don't know how much you earn but there is no way I could ever afford to move anywhere within a 100 mile radius of London.
Born in the early 1950's, I grew up in Muswell Hill, attending Tetherdown Primary School and then William Grimshaw. Now living on the Gold Coast in Queensland, Australia. If anyone goes back as far as me,I would love to hear from them.
Saw your message on the Muswell Hill site. I was born late 50's but also went to Tetherdown Primary. I went on to Creighton Comprehensive which I think was William Grimshaw and Tollington or something combined, can't remember!
Living in Sydney now.
Don't know your name but it's fun to see someone else who went to the same school.
London lodger Ralph Burgess is taking on the coppers and the courts in this
strange tale from across the pond. Part Charles Dickens, part Monty
Python -- its a gritty story from the real Britain that you won't find on
Masterpiece Theater. click the below link to watch the video.
My aunt is in hospital(Whittington) and I want to send her some flowers. Can anyone tell me the name of a florist close by I can contact. We live in Canada and it is hard to do from here.
The Flower Seller (of Muswell Hill, London) is a florist that provides flowers of the highest quality for delivery/collection. Delivery areas include: Muswell Hill, Crouch End, Highgate, Finchley, Hampstead, Hampstead Garden Suburb.
Open 8am - 6.30pm Monday to Saturday. Please telephone 020 8365 2473 to place your order or for international orders please call +44 20 8365 2473. Prices from £25 with free delivery.
Fiat Punto 1.1 55S 1997, P Reg, Black, 5 Door, 8 Months MOT, 35,500 Miles, Manual (5 speed), Full service history, Radio/cassette, Very good condition, Very economical, 1 previous owner. Muswell Hill.
No time wasters please. £3,395 or very near offer. Please call on 07974173543 or e-mail: azadehj@cwcom.net
I'm making a documentary series for BBC2 about marriage and long-term relationships.
The idea is to paint a portrait of relationships in modern Britain, by making a diary of four couples' experiences during the next 6-9 months.
I'm looking for couples who either have a new, changing or challenging experience ahead of them (such as a first child;a stepfamily coming together; a couple relocating...), or couples who have very busy, demanding lives (kids, work etc...). Above all I'm looking for articulate, honest and self-reflective people who are interested in the idea of the project.
At this stage, I'm just chatting to people informally - so there's no commitment at all. If you'd like to know more, please contact me...on 0207 313 6836, or david.wise@rdfmedia.com
What a truly exciting concept for a programme. But when you ask for 'articulate, honest and self-reflective people' I really don't think you'll have much luck as Muswell Hill is renound for only housing loud braying idiots with no common sense at all. Ho-hum, I'm sure you'll get lots of replies though, it'd be a great talking point for them at their group therapy meetings.
I'm looking for Chris , Matt & Stuart (skiing - Andorra)
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I'm looking for Chris, Matt & Stuart, who went skiing in Andorra last week. If you know them, or if you are them, please mail me or tell them about this message, or whatever. Thanks a bundle, Jenn. jenndoh@yahoo.com
I am looking for a suitable venue in Muswell Hill to run children's drama classes on Saturday afternoons as of Easter.
If anyone has any ideas, then I'd love to hear from you.
Thanks,
Lucy.
Coldfall Primary School has 'The Centre' which is hired out to outside interests. It is worth calling Kevin Petty (Site Manager) to ask him costs, etc. Sorry don't have tel No but can get it from Telephone Directory.
I have had enough of the 134 so I have set up a site which serves as a virtual town hall. go there and discuss the problems, and lets see if we can make a difference. If you dont want to visit the open forum but also have had enough then you should still visit and read the what they said section.....
Note: I have enabeled guest posting so you dont have to join ((as i feel some of the sign up questions might put some people of)) but if you dont mind them signing up jjust keeps things neat
its free no catch...Im only going to do this for a few months and then I am going to change the entire content of the site.
